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		<title>Corvino: Coming out skeptical</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 10:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer Vanasco</dc:creator>
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<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">I&#8217;m a big proponent of being  out, not just about being gay, but about any personally significant  trait whose revelation subverts problematic assumptions. For me, that  includes being out as an atheist.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">&#8220;Atheist or agnostic?&#8221;  I&#8217;m often asked.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">For practical purposes, I&#8217;m  not sure that there&#8217;s much of a difference. Do I believe that it&#8217;s POSSIBLE  that there&#8217;s a deity of some sort? Sure. I also believe that it&#8217;s possible  that there&#8217;s intelligent life elsewhere in the universe. (It&#8217;s a pretty  damn big universe.) But I don&#8217;t have good evidence for either, don&#8217;t  believe in either, and don&#8217;t make life decisions on the basis of the  vague possibility of either.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">I wasn&#8217;t always an atheist.  Indeed, during college I joined a religious order and had planned to  enter the priesthood. This fact surprises people, though it shouldn&#8217;t.  Taking religion seriously enough to subject it to scrutiny is one common  path to religious skepticism. As Thomas Hobbes wrote in the seventeenth  century, </span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">&#8220;For it is with the mysteries  of our religion as with wholesome pills for the sick, which swallowed  whole have the virtue to cure, but chewed, are for the most part cast  up again without effect.&#8221;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">I pretty much chewed on the  pill until it dissolved.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">&#8220;But how do you explain  the existence of the universe?&#8221; I&#8217;m sometimes asked.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">I don&#8217;t. The universe is mysterious  to me. But I don&#8217;t see the point of trying to explain one mystery by  invoking another.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Being out as an atheist is  often more difficult than being out as a gay person. I was reminded  of that last week, when I was attending a gay pride dinner event at  which I was the keynote speaker. A middle-aged woman approached me in  the buffet line and claimed to be one of my biggest fans. She was gushing  about my DVD when the conversation turned to religion. I mentioned in  passing that I&#8217;m a non-believer.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">She stopped abruptly, and seemed  to turn pale. &#8220;Non-believer as in…?&#8221;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">&#8220;As in, I don&#8217;t believe  in God.&#8221;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">(Long, awkward pause, during  which she stared at me with an expression one might direct toward someone  who has suddenly been covered in dogshit.)</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">&#8220;Well,&#8221; she finally  said unconvincingly, &#8220;I still like your columns.&#8221;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">I can understand why some believers  would be disappointed to learn that I&#8217;m an atheist. If you like someone,  and if you believe that his eternal salvation depends on his accepting  a certain religious perspective, then you&#8217;ll be sorry to learn that  he won&#8217;t be joining you in Paradise. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">But this particular encounter  was striking for two reasons. First, the woman in question was Jewish—a  religious tradition that, unlike Christianity, doesn&#8217;t dwell on eternal  salvation and doesn’t usually proselytize. Second, it seemed that  her enjoyment of my columns somehow hinged on whether or not I shared  her theistic worldview—despite the fact that I seldom write about  religion.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">I suppose what bugs me most  is the double standard. Religious believers can make the most outrageous  claims (God is three persons in one? His mother on earth is a virgin?  Amy Grant can sing?) and yet meet with a polite reception. But if atheists  boldly state their views, they&#8217;re accused of being arrogant.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">There&#8217;s nothing arrogant about  acknowledging what one DOESN&#8217;T know. Even the blunt claim &#8220;There  is no God,&#8221; when uttered as a sincere assessment of the evidence  (or lack thereof) strikes me as humble, not arrogant. To deny God is  not to place oneself above God, but rather to acknowledge the fallible  human state we all share. It should go without saying, but belief in  an infallible God doesn&#8217;t render one infallible, even when discussing  religion.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">For the record, my departure  from theism had nothing to do with being wounded by organized religion.  On the contrary, I had a very positive experience of the church during  my coming-out process.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">And please don&#8217;t tell me that  I&#8217;ve been burned by our opponents&#8217; selective use of the Bible. Our opponents  are selective, sure—but so are our allies. To put it in technical  theological terms, the Bible contains some crazy shit (alongside lots  of beautiful stuff, too). The difference between our religious opponents  and our religious allies is not that one is selective and the other  not, but that they select different parts.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">I remain grateful for those  religious allies. Their heart is in the right place, and as a strategic  matter, I think we need them. But I also think we need a healthy dose  of religious skepticism.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">*************************************</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">John Corvino, Ph.D. is an author,  speaker, and philosophy professor at Wayne State University in Detroit.  His column “The Gay Moralist” appears weekly on <a href="http://365gay.com/" target="_blank">365gay.com</a>. Read  more about him at <a href="http://www.johncorvino.com/" target="_blank">www.johncorvino.com</a>.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">John will be a volunteer faculty  member this summer for Campus Pride’s Leadership Camp for GLBT students.  For more about Campus Pride’s work, or to make a donation on John’s  behalf to support this year’s program, visit <a href="http://www.campuspride.org/" target="_blank">http://www.campuspride.org/</a>.</span></div>
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		<title>Corvino: Clay&#8217;s gay. So what?</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 14:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer Vanasco</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clay Aiken is gay. This is not news.</p>
<p>Lindsay Lohan might be gay, too. (Her answer during a radio interview was noncommittal enough to leave room for “clarifications” later.) Big yawn.</p>
<p>You know what would be news? It would be news to learn that a well-known pop star called <em>People </em>magazine to say “I’m gay!” and <em>People</em> responded with a “So what?” I long for the day when a star’s coming out is not worthy of magazine space, much less a cover story.</p>
<p>We have not yet reached that day.</p>
<p>Clay Aiken’s coming out was about as surprising as Elton John’s, only less courageous. (Remember that John came out 20 years ago, at the height of the AIDS crisis, when gay sex was still illegal in many parts of this country.) For years, certain bloggers have referred to Aiken as “Gayken,” a practice as lazy as it is childish. An online poll revealed that 96 percent of respondents were not surprised by his announcement.</p>
<p>The other 4 percent, presumably, also insist that Liberace was merely “artistic.”</p>
<p>I certainly don’t mean to criticize Aiken for his honesty, and I can’t blame him for wanting to capitalize on it with a cover story. I have no idea what <em>People</em> paid him for the scoop, if anything, but I suspect he got more than I did when I came out in an op-ed in my college paper. (I think they gave me a coupon for a free pizza.)</p>
<p>Incidentally, that was in 1989, a year after Elton John came out as gay. It was harder then, no doubt because so few public figures had done it.</p>
<p>Aiken’s coming out adds to that growing list of public figures, and for that we should be thankful. There are interesting dimensions to his story, including his identifying as a born-again Christian and his generally wholesome image. (My late grandmother, like many grandmothers, adored him on <em>American Idol</em>.)</p>
<p>Some might hope that his revelation will reach a demographic not otherwise friendly to gay issues, reminding them that we truly are everywhere. I’m skeptical. Aiken just had a child out of wedlock, via artificial insemination, with a much older female friend. His fellow born-again Christians will likely see him less as a role-model than as a cautionary tale.</p>
<p>So if progressives shrug and traditionalists scold, what can Aiken’s coming out teach us?  Two things, I think.</p>
<p>First, that if you’re going to use the “My sexual orientation is private and none of your business” line, as Aiken did repeatedly, then don’t be surprised if few care when you announce your gayness on the cover of People.</p>
<p>Aiken is hardly alone in exploiting the ambiguity of the claim that sexual orientation is “private.” Private in the sense of being deeply personal and deserving of non-interference? Absolutely. Private in the sense of being secret? Only if you insist on making it so.</p>
<p>That was Aiken’s right, of course. But it was also our right to notice his doing it. It was not our right to nag him about it—he was young, and still figuring it all out—but it was our right to refuse to go along with treating gayness as somehow unspeakable. Aiken’s story underscores how the convention of the closet is crumbling. This is progress.</p>
<p>The second thing his coming out teaches us is that while simple honesty is good, it is no longer enough. It may be enough (for now) to get you on the cover of <em>People</em>, but it’s not enough, I’ll wager, to get readers rushing to the newsstands.</p>
<p>I’m surprised, frankly, that it’s still enough to get you on the cover of <em>People</em>—even if you are the most famous <em>American Idol</em> runner-up ever (my grandmother went to her grave insisting that Ruben had robbed him of the rightful title) and you have a cute baby in an unconventional family arrangement. I don’t expect <em>People</em> to be <em>The Economist</em>, but I do expect something fresher and more stimulating than “Yes, I’m Gay.”</p>
<p>And so let me close with a plea to our LGBT organizations. For the love of Jehovah, don’t invite Aiken to headline fundraising dinners or pride events unless and until he actually does something more to advance gay rights.</p>
<p>“Yes, I’m Gay” may be enough to impress <em>People</em>. It should no longer be enough to impress us.</p>
<p>And that, too, is progress.</p>
<p><em>John Corvino, Ph.D. is an author, speaker, and philosophy professor at Wayne State University in Detroit.</em></p>
<p><em> </em><em>For over 15 years he has traveled the country speaking on homosexuality and ethics. His writing has been featured in regional and national periodicals, at the online <a href="http://www.indegayforum.org/staff/show/92.html" target="_blank">Independent Gay Forum </a>, and in numerous scholarly anthologies. His column “The Gay Moralist” appears Fridays on 365gay.com.</em></p>
<p><em> </em><em>For more about John Corvino, or to see clips from his “What’s Morally Wrong with Homosexuality?” DVD, visit </em><a href="http://www.johncorvino.com"><em>www.johncorvino.com</em></a><em>.</em></p>
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<p><em>Catch John Corvino as he lectures on gay rights and debates same-sex marriage with Glenn Stanton of Focus on the Family:</em></p>
<p><em>September 30: Concordia College (Moorhead, MN) 9 pm Knutson Campus Center-Centrum October 6: Minnesota State University-Mankato 7 pm Ostrander Auditorium, Centennial Student Union October 7: Northern Kentucky University (DEBATE) 7 pm Greaves Hall October 9: Vincennes University (IN) 11 am Shircliff Theater October 14: Bridgewater State College (MA) 2 pm Moakley Auditorium October 22: Sienna Heights University (Adrian, MI) Details TBA October 23: Western Michigan University (Kalamazoo) 7:30 pm Kirsch Auditorium October 30: Canisius College (DEBATE) (Buffalo NY) 7 pm Regis Conference Room<br />
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