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		<title>By: brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 07:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Better YET anyone who says Hate Crime Bills aren&#039;t needed has NEVER (lucky for them) ever been a victim of a hate crime.

I was walking in an area (very popular tourist area) and I was abruptly approached by 4 guys that were gonna jump me after their nasty sexual orientation slurs (you know them all)  and luckily I shoved the biggest one of the bunch into the others and took off after they jammed me into a car side mirror...

That was a HATE CRIME!  I should be able to walk freely in this country without being assaulted because of my sexuality or PERCEIVED Sexual Orientation! PERIOD.

Get the shit beat out of you or have a loved one murdered (which has also happened to me) and you come back and tell us how this kind of legislation is NOT needed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Better YET anyone who says Hate Crime Bills aren&#8217;t needed has NEVER (lucky for them) ever been a victim of a hate crime.</p>
<p>I was walking in an area (very popular tourist area) and I was abruptly approached by 4 guys that were gonna jump me after their nasty sexual orientation slurs (you know them all)  and luckily I shoved the biggest one of the bunch into the others and took off after they jammed me into a car side mirror&#8230;</p>
<p>That was a HATE CRIME!  I should be able to walk freely in this country without being assaulted because of my sexuality or PERCEIVED Sexual Orientation! PERIOD.</p>
<p>Get the shit beat out of you or have a loved one murdered (which has also happened to me) and you come back and tell us how this kind of legislation is NOT needed!</p>
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		<title>By: Bethany</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/opinion/neff-why-we-need-hate-crime-laws/comment-page-1/#comment-54319</link>
		<dc:creator>Bethany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 07:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The only thing hate crimes legislation does is lend credence to the right’s argument that we are seeking not just equal, but special rights.&quot;

WOW.
No.

Anyone, majority or minority, can have a hate crime committed against them. If someone was murdered simply because they were white or heterosexual, it&#039;s just as much of a hate crime as if they were black and homosexual.
Anyone who says that hate crime legislation is not needed obviously hasn&#039;t been paying attention to the enormous amount of violence being committed against members of the LGBT community, simply because the victim is non-heterosexual. Were the motive not to instill fear and reinforce homophobic tendencies, it would not be a hate crime.

Even as the fight for women&#039;s rights is making strides, protections for lesbians from violence perpetrated against them because of their sexual orientation has been systematically absent in UN meetings around the globe.
Girls passing out &#039;anti-gay&#039; pamphlets obviously shouldn&#039;t be charged with a hate crime, but that isn&#039;t what hate crime bills are about. Using that as an example is ridiculous.

Either we can have it recognized that violence against LGBT individuals because of the SOLE REASON that the individual was non-heterosexual is wrong, or we can continue to suffer with our cries muffled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The only thing hate crimes legislation does is lend credence to the right’s argument that we are seeking not just equal, but special rights.&#8221;</p>
<p>WOW.<br />
No.</p>
<p>Anyone, majority or minority, can have a hate crime committed against them. If someone was murdered simply because they were white or heterosexual, it&#8217;s just as much of a hate crime as if they were black and homosexual.<br />
Anyone who says that hate crime legislation is not needed obviously hasn&#8217;t been paying attention to the enormous amount of violence being committed against members of the LGBT community, simply because the victim is non-heterosexual. Were the motive not to instill fear and reinforce homophobic tendencies, it would not be a hate crime.</p>
<p>Even as the fight for women&#8217;s rights is making strides, protections for lesbians from violence perpetrated against them because of their sexual orientation has been systematically absent in UN meetings around the globe.<br />
Girls passing out &#8216;anti-gay&#8217; pamphlets obviously shouldn&#8217;t be charged with a hate crime, but that isn&#8217;t what hate crime bills are about. Using that as an example is ridiculous.</p>
<p>Either we can have it recognized that violence against LGBT individuals because of the SOLE REASON that the individual was non-heterosexual is wrong, or we can continue to suffer with our cries muffled.</p>
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		<title>By: John M</title>
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		<dc:creator>John M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 07:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No hate crime laws, huh, are you people crazy...so a person burning a cross on someone&#039;s front lawn should only prosecuted for starting an illegal fire, or hanging a noose from someone&#039;s tree shoud only be prosecuted as trespassing...get real!  Hate crimes are done to intimidate people because they belong to a specific group, and seek to perpetuate fear and degradation in that group.  That is why a Republican controlled US Supreme Court has held they are legal.  Who needs enemies when people in our own community feel Matthew Sheppard&#039;s brutal killers only did grave harm to our heroic Matthew.  These disgusting human beings  did harm to the entire LGBT community in the US and should be appropriately punished for it.  Bravo for hate crimes legistation!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No hate crime laws, huh, are you people crazy&#8230;so a person burning a cross on someone&#8217;s front lawn should only prosecuted for starting an illegal fire, or hanging a noose from someone&#8217;s tree shoud only be prosecuted as trespassing&#8230;get real!  Hate crimes are done to intimidate people because they belong to a specific group, and seek to perpetuate fear and degradation in that group.  That is why a Republican controlled US Supreme Court has held they are legal.  Who needs enemies when people in our own community feel Matthew Sheppard&#8217;s brutal killers only did grave harm to our heroic Matthew.  These disgusting human beings  did harm to the entire LGBT community in the US and should be appropriately punished for it.  Bravo for hate crimes legistation!</p>
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		<title>By: Shannon</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/opinion/neff-why-we-need-hate-crime-laws/comment-page-1/#comment-54317</link>
		<dc:creator>Shannon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 06:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Chris.

It was just a year or so ago that two teenage girls were charged with a hate crime for simply passing out anti-gay flyers.

The only thing hate crimes legislation does is lend credence to the right&#039;s argument that we are seeking not just equal, but special rights.

In my state we don&#039;t have a hate crimes law, but we do have conceal-and-carry handgun permits.  Personally, I think that&#039;s a much more effective deterrent than any piece of legislation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Chris.</p>
<p>It was just a year or so ago that two teenage girls were charged with a hate crime for simply passing out anti-gay flyers.</p>
<p>The only thing hate crimes legislation does is lend credence to the right&#8217;s argument that we are seeking not just equal, but special rights.</p>
<p>In my state we don&#8217;t have a hate crimes law, but we do have conceal-and-carry handgun permits.  Personally, I think that&#8217;s a much more effective deterrent than any piece of legislation.</p>
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		<title>By: Reel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! Chris misses a couple of very important points. As do most people who think that we do not need hate crime bills:

First, motivation has always been a consideration in the legal system. It has a major impact on arrests, prosecutions and sentences. Motivation, of course, is thought. What was the thinking involved in the crime. To say this amounts to criminalizing thought reflects a complete and utter lack of understanding, knowledge or intelligence.

Second, if a crime is perpetrated for no other reason than, for example, the sexual orientation of the victim, it strikes fear into all members of that group. It would be different if it were a random act and the perpetrator, for example, was only after the victims wallet. A hate crime is an act of terror which strikes fear into a whole group of people. It is, indeed, worse than a random crime. Again, to think otherwise shows a lack of understanding, knowledge or intelligence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! Chris misses a couple of very important points. As do most people who think that we do not need hate crime bills:</p>
<p>First, motivation has always been a consideration in the legal system. It has a major impact on arrests, prosecutions and sentences. Motivation, of course, is thought. What was the thinking involved in the crime. To say this amounts to criminalizing thought reflects a complete and utter lack of understanding, knowledge or intelligence.</p>
<p>Second, if a crime is perpetrated for no other reason than, for example, the sexual orientation of the victim, it strikes fear into all members of that group. It would be different if it were a random act and the perpetrator, for example, was only after the victims wallet. A hate crime is an act of terror which strikes fear into a whole group of people. It is, indeed, worse than a random crime. Again, to think otherwise shows a lack of understanding, knowledge or intelligence.</p>
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		<title>By: RJLigier</title>
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		<dc:creator>RJLigier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 20:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it stops gay on gay violence, I&#039;ll support it up to a point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it stops gay on gay violence, I&#8217;ll support it up to a point.</p>
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		<title>By: JT62</title>
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		<dc:creator>JT62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, the reason he was charged and convicted with the hate crime bias was because he would not have killed Angie Zapata had she not been a transgender individual.  Had it just been a female that gave bad sex, he would have walked away.  His only reason was that Angie was physically male.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, the reason he was charged and convicted with the hate crime bias was because he would not have killed Angie Zapata had she not been a transgender individual.  Had it just been a female that gave bad sex, he would have walked away.  His only reason was that Angie was physically male.</p>
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		<title>By: David Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you.

I forwarded your article to my Representative in the House.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you.</p>
<p>I forwarded your article to my Representative in the House.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And it would have been a lesser crime if he said &quot;You should have given me your wallet&quot;? First degree murder is first degree murder, hate crime laws in any form tread dangerously close to criminalizing thoughts. No matter how wrong and despicable Andrade&#039;s thoughts may be, the actual crime he committed was 1st degree murder, and that is all he should have been charged with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And it would have been a lesser crime if he said &#8220;You should have given me your wallet&#8221;? First degree murder is first degree murder, hate crime laws in any form tread dangerously close to criminalizing thoughts. No matter how wrong and despicable Andrade&#8217;s thoughts may be, the actual crime he committed was 1st degree murder, and that is all he should have been charged with.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessica K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For all the doubters out there that think that adding Transgendered protections to GLBT laws is unnecessary repeat after me: &quot;This is why the Transgendered need to be covered in our laws&quot;. Please realize that when the perp. said &quot;Gay things need to die.&quot; he is talking about all of us, not just the Gays &amp; Lesbians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For all the doubters out there that think that adding Transgendered protections to GLBT laws is unnecessary repeat after me: &#8220;This is why the Transgendered need to be covered in our laws&#8221;. Please realize that when the perp. said &#8220;Gay things need to die.&#8221; he is talking about all of us, not just the Gays &amp; Lesbians.</p>
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