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	<title>Comments on: Neff: The sins of the Pope</title>
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		<title>By: drewski</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/opinion/neff-the-sins-of-the-pope/comment-page-3/#comment-37054</link>
		<dc:creator>drewski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 05:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, according to the piece I just read on BBC&#039;s site 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7796663.stm

we homos are a true threat to the very existence of the planet.  Last I checked, my passport still says USA on it, not Catholic Church and not Vatican City.  Where the hell does an old man in a dress get off by trying to tell sovereign states what to do?  What&#039;s he gonna do--excommunicate a Protestant, or maybe declare an agnostic or an atheist to be an apostate and therefore suitable fodder for the Inquisition?  Benedict...is that old Nazi trippin&#039; on ergot?  Peyote?  What is his malfunction?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, according to the piece I just read on BBC&#8217;s site </p>
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<p>we homos are a true threat to the very existence of the planet.  Last I checked, my passport still says USA on it, not Catholic Church and not Vatican City.  Where the hell does an old man in a dress get off by trying to tell sovereign states what to do?  What&#8217;s he gonna do&#8211;excommunicate a Protestant, or maybe declare an agnostic or an atheist to be an apostate and therefore suitable fodder for the Inquisition?  Benedict&#8230;is that old Nazi trippin&#8217; on ergot?  Peyote?  What is his malfunction?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Barea</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/opinion/neff-the-sins-of-the-pope/comment-page-3/#comment-37050</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Barea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 04:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And yet I still have a voice.

God Bless America.

Land that I Love.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And yet I still have a voice.</p>
<p>God Bless America.</p>
<p>Land that I Love.</p>
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		<title>By: Terence Weldon</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/opinion/neff-the-sins-of-the-pope/comment-page-3/#comment-36135</link>
		<dc:creator>Terence Weldon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 10:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Vatican yesterday sought to &#039;clarify&#039; its earlier statements, reaffirming that it is &#039;opposed&#039; to the death penalty for homosexuals, but repeating that it cannot support the declaration because it will reulst in putting gay people on the same legal footing as straights. They point out that even France, the backer of the motion, does not do this.

This is opening the mouth to change feet.  The motion (sadly) does not attempt to create equal status - else why would France be proposing it?

I will believe that the Vatican truly opposes injustice against gays when they finally apologise for the cruelties of the past, and remove their continuing discrimination within the church today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Vatican yesterday sought to &#8216;clarify&#8217; its earlier statements, reaffirming that it is &#8216;opposed&#8217; to the death penalty for homosexuals, but repeating that it cannot support the declaration because it will reulst in putting gay people on the same legal footing as straights. They point out that even France, the backer of the motion, does not do this.</p>
<p>This is opening the mouth to change feet.  The motion (sadly) does not attempt to create equal status &#8211; else why would France be proposing it?</p>
<p>I will believe that the Vatican truly opposes injustice against gays when they finally apologise for the cruelties of the past, and remove their continuing discrimination within the church today.</p>
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		<title>By: TANK</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/opinion/neff-the-sins-of-the-pope/comment-page-3/#comment-36031</link>
		<dc:creator>TANK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 01:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“&#039;First, ignore jeff. He’s meme trolling&#039;”

Pot…Kettle…Black…&quot;

That&#039;s hilarious coming from a self avowed religious person given that the very definition of religious belief renders it a meme.  Further, it&#039;s baseless reactionary name calling.  As in the other thread, you&#039;ve got no argument, robh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“&#8217;First, ignore jeff. He’s meme trolling&#8217;”</p>
<p>Pot…Kettle…Black…&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s hilarious coming from a self avowed religious person given that the very definition of religious belief renders it a meme.  Further, it&#8217;s baseless reactionary name calling.  As in the other thread, you&#8217;ve got no argument, robh.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob H</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/opinion/neff-the-sins-of-the-pope/comment-page-3/#comment-35935</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 21:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Maybe look at the news and see how your wonderful hopey changey unicorn President-Elect just screwed you over.&quot;

He&#039;s not my President, though if I was an American I would have to say that getting screwed over by Obama is still better than getting screwed over by Bush.

&quot;First, ignore jeff. He’s meme trolling&quot;

Pot...Kettle...Black...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Maybe look at the news and see how your wonderful hopey changey unicorn President-Elect just screwed you over.&#8221;</p>
<p>He&#8217;s not my President, though if I was an American I would have to say that getting screwed over by Obama is still better than getting screwed over by Bush.</p>
<p>&#8220;First, ignore jeff. He’s meme trolling&#8221;</p>
<p>Pot&#8230;Kettle&#8230;Black&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: TANK</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/opinion/neff-the-sins-of-the-pope/comment-page-3/#comment-35897</link>
		<dc:creator>TANK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 20:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If not for Neff and Besen, I don&#039;t think I&#039;d agree with any of the editorialists here.  Good stuff.

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First, ignore jeff.  He&#039;s meme trolling, and desires, more than anything else, to be &quot;controversial&quot; than coherent and relevant.  He deals in sloppy logic and empty rhetoric.  

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&quot;Just don’t deny all religions their deserved respect&quot;

What respect and why are religions entitled to it? 

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&quot;Those who can believe without imposing their beliefs on others should be respected.&quot;

Why?  And what do you mean by imposing their beliefs on others?  Forcing others to believe as they do?  How can that be achieved?  Oh, you mean ACTING in on their beliefs as they do.  So you do uphold the incoherence of referring to beliefs distinct from the behaviors they cause.

But it&#039;s done by most religious folks.  And it overlooks a [more] significant way that religious folks impose their beliefs on others.  How about indoctrinating kids, for example?  More than a few tykes have been permanently scarred by religious indoctrination...and it is child abuse.  Were you raised religious?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If not for Neff and Besen, I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;d agree with any of the editorialists here.  Good stuff.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>First, ignore jeff.  He&#8217;s meme trolling, and desires, more than anything else, to be &#8220;controversial&#8221; than coherent and relevant.  He deals in sloppy logic and empty rhetoric.  </p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>&#8220;Just don’t deny all religions their deserved respect&#8221;</p>
<p>What respect and why are religions entitled to it? </p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>&#8220;Those who can believe without imposing their beliefs on others should be respected.&#8221;</p>
<p>Why?  And what do you mean by imposing their beliefs on others?  Forcing others to believe as they do?  How can that be achieved?  Oh, you mean ACTING in on their beliefs as they do.  So you do uphold the incoherence of referring to beliefs distinct from the behaviors they cause.</p>
<p>But it&#8217;s done by most religious folks.  And it overlooks a [more] significant way that religious folks impose their beliefs on others.  How about indoctrinating kids, for example?  More than a few tykes have been permanently scarred by religious indoctrination&#8230;and it is child abuse.  Were you raised religious?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Barea</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/opinion/neff-the-sins-of-the-pope/comment-page-3/#comment-35770</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Barea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 12:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe look at the news and see how your wonderful hopey changey unicorn President-Elect just screwed you over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe look at the news and see how your wonderful hopey changey unicorn President-Elect just screwed you over.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob H</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/opinion/neff-the-sins-of-the-pope/comment-page-3/#comment-35754</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 06:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;How about inviting your neighbors over for dinner? Organizing block parties?

Letting them get to know you and see that you are just like them?&quot;

I&#039;m good friends with most of my neighbours and know everyone in my building, and most in the buildings either side of me.  We have parties.  We spend time together.  I am &quot;humanised&quot; in their eyes.

Any other bright ideas?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;How about inviting your neighbors over for dinner? Organizing block parties?</p>
<p>Letting them get to know you and see that you are just like them?&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m good friends with most of my neighbours and know everyone in my building, and most in the buildings either side of me.  We have parties.  We spend time together.  I am &#8220;humanised&#8221; in their eyes.</p>
<p>Any other bright ideas?</p>
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		<title>By: Jo</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/opinion/neff-the-sins-of-the-pope/comment-page-3/#comment-35732</link>
		<dc:creator>Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 03:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We get the picture, Jack. Stop spamming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We get the picture, Jack. Stop spamming.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Fritscher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Fritscher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 02:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But what about Obama&#039;s &quot;affair&quot; with anti-gay homophobe Rick Warren?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But what about Obama&#8217;s &#8220;affair&#8221; with anti-gay homophobe Rick Warren?</p>
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