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		<title>By: Morgan</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/opinion/neff-thank-campbells-for-not-giving-in/comment-page-2/#comment-39092</link>
		<dc:creator>Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 14:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Campbell Soups, I don&#039;t buy them because of their unhealthfully high salt or sodium content, I make my own soup instead to keep the salt level down in my diet. Another way i do that is avoid all fast food places, most of the stuff they put out is way too high on grease and salt. I find a McDonald&#039;s burger extremely salty and that alone ruins its taste. And there is that tasteless mouthful of fluff aka as white bread that goes along with it. Refined starches as opposed to whole grain products that take longer to metabolize as opposed to refined starches (which are not much different that putting a bowlful of sugar to your mouth and pouring it down your throat as far as your body is concerned since saliva in the mouth exists in part to begin the breakdown of starch into sugars as the beginning of the digestive process along with the teeth grinding the food into easier to swallow and digest finer mush mixed with saliva. Without the complex nature of whole grains to slow things down, with refined starches since saliva exists to break down into simpler sugars you are eating close to pure sugar by the time by the time your saliva has broken some of refined starch down.

That along with the high grease and the high salt and the high sugar of fast food is why McDonald&#039;s etc. are health disasters. Sure it tastes good, that why we crave it! We&#039;ve been numbed to good nutrition since early childhood and trained to want high salt, high fat and high sugar and McDonald&#039;s, Campbell Soups with its frighteningly high salt intake (which is why I make my own soup to circumvent Campbell&#039;s unhealthfully high levels of salt/sodium per can. Even the &quot;lighter&quot; on salt soups are still 480 mgs of sodium per can!

But here the point is that even the trash drink companies(Pepsi) and the trash food companies (McDonalds etc)
and makers of excessively salty soups (Campbell) have their hearts in the right place (while their foods and drink make us less healthy) by advertizing with the gay community&#039;s papers and magazine. 

They don&#039;t imagine themselves as part of a &quot;culture war&quot; (lingo used by AFA to intimidate companies into bending to its will), they see their gay employees and customers as merely part of the diversity of what makes up this country.
They know that the gay market is a good and sizable market since fewer gay people have kids to funnel most of their disposable income into or by the other side of the coin is since about a quarter of gay couples are adopting kids these days, they have a ready made customer base made up of gay couples and their kids and that the kids will grow up to be comsumers of their products.

One message to these gay-friendly companies is: resist the AFA. The AFA is like hoodlums going from car to car jiggling handles to see which car is the easiest to break into. IF all companies closed ranks and refused &quot;entry&quot; so to speak to the AFA (via threatening or manipulatively worded letters about how &quot;unfriendly to families&quot; the company is all the while disparaging gays and their families)if all the companies closed ranks and not one company yielded to AFA, AFA would have to slink off into a corner and piss and moan to its readership. All it takes is just one company to turn &quot;scaredy cat&quot; and AFA touts, ballyhoos and boasts mightily of its victory while its victim tries to &quot;save face&quot; and AFA meanwhile goes onto browbeat the next company to see who else will bow to its will.

McDonalds with its huge national and international clientele getting unhealthy on its junk food had nothing to fear from AFA. It could have just ignored AFA and AFA could pretend victory of sorts and BS about it how well it did over McDonald&#039;s and just go onto to a more malleable company with fewer guts that it could more easily push over.

McDonalds with its high fat and high salt along with caving into AFA is why I have 100% ditched McDonald&#039;s. I refuse to enter there to eat even as a last resort just because it caved into AFA. I now carry food in my car to avoid McDonalds if traveling and far from a town. One can last hunger wise, sugar and protein-wise and calorie-wise for a while on a bag of mixed peanuts and dried fruit and thumb one&#039;s nose at every McDonalds one passes even it were the only eatery around for miles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Campbell Soups, I don&#8217;t buy them because of their unhealthfully high salt or sodium content, I make my own soup instead to keep the salt level down in my diet. Another way i do that is avoid all fast food places, most of the stuff they put out is way too high on grease and salt. I find a McDonald&#8217;s burger extremely salty and that alone ruins its taste. And there is that tasteless mouthful of fluff aka as white bread that goes along with it. Refined starches as opposed to whole grain products that take longer to metabolize as opposed to refined starches (which are not much different that putting a bowlful of sugar to your mouth and pouring it down your throat as far as your body is concerned since saliva in the mouth exists in part to begin the breakdown of starch into sugars as the beginning of the digestive process along with the teeth grinding the food into easier to swallow and digest finer mush mixed with saliva. Without the complex nature of whole grains to slow things down, with refined starches since saliva exists to break down into simpler sugars you are eating close to pure sugar by the time by the time your saliva has broken some of refined starch down.</p>
<p>That along with the high grease and the high salt and the high sugar of fast food is why McDonald&#8217;s etc. are health disasters. Sure it tastes good, that why we crave it! We&#8217;ve been numbed to good nutrition since early childhood and trained to want high salt, high fat and high sugar and McDonald&#8217;s, Campbell Soups with its frighteningly high salt intake (which is why I make my own soup to circumvent Campbell&#8217;s unhealthfully high levels of salt/sodium per can. Even the &#8220;lighter&#8221; on salt soups are still 480 mgs of sodium per can!</p>
<p>But here the point is that even the trash drink companies(Pepsi) and the trash food companies (McDonalds etc)<br />
and makers of excessively salty soups (Campbell) have their hearts in the right place (while their foods and drink make us less healthy) by advertizing with the gay community&#8217;s papers and magazine. </p>
<p>They don&#8217;t imagine themselves as part of a &#8220;culture war&#8221; (lingo used by AFA to intimidate companies into bending to its will), they see their gay employees and customers as merely part of the diversity of what makes up this country.<br />
They know that the gay market is a good and sizable market since fewer gay people have kids to funnel most of their disposable income into or by the other side of the coin is since about a quarter of gay couples are adopting kids these days, they have a ready made customer base made up of gay couples and their kids and that the kids will grow up to be comsumers of their products.</p>
<p>One message to these gay-friendly companies is: resist the AFA. The AFA is like hoodlums going from car to car jiggling handles to see which car is the easiest to break into. IF all companies closed ranks and refused &#8220;entry&#8221; so to speak to the AFA (via threatening or manipulatively worded letters about how &#8220;unfriendly to families&#8221; the company is all the while disparaging gays and their families)if all the companies closed ranks and not one company yielded to AFA, AFA would have to slink off into a corner and piss and moan to its readership. All it takes is just one company to turn &#8220;scaredy cat&#8221; and AFA touts, ballyhoos and boasts mightily of its victory while its victim tries to &#8220;save face&#8221; and AFA meanwhile goes onto browbeat the next company to see who else will bow to its will.</p>
<p>McDonalds with its huge national and international clientele getting unhealthy on its junk food had nothing to fear from AFA. It could have just ignored AFA and AFA could pretend victory of sorts and BS about it how well it did over McDonald&#8217;s and just go onto to a more malleable company with fewer guts that it could more easily push over.</p>
<p>McDonalds with its high fat and high salt along with caving into AFA is why I have 100% ditched McDonald&#8217;s. I refuse to enter there to eat even as a last resort just because it caved into AFA. I now carry food in my car to avoid McDonalds if traveling and far from a town. One can last hunger wise, sugar and protein-wise and calorie-wise for a while on a bag of mixed peanuts and dried fruit and thumb one&#8217;s nose at every McDonalds one passes even it were the only eatery around for miles.</p>
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		<title>By: Ramón</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/opinion/neff-thank-campbells-for-not-giving-in/comment-page-2/#comment-39051</link>
		<dc:creator>Ramón</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 01:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Campbell: Please create an ad of a mixed race couple and their children, and be sure that one of them is ebony-black, perhaps the male, and the woman could have alabaster-white skin, bordering on pink. Then let us know if you receive the same kind of letters from AFA; I&#039;m betting that you will.
Thanks for not caving in to the christian-ayatollahs and their subversive theocratic agenda of hate. The AFA is a terrorist organization.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Campbell: Please create an ad of a mixed race couple and their children, and be sure that one of them is ebony-black, perhaps the male, and the woman could have alabaster-white skin, bordering on pink. Then let us know if you receive the same kind of letters from AFA; I&#8217;m betting that you will.<br />
Thanks for not caving in to the christian-ayatollahs and their subversive theocratic agenda of hate. The AFA is a terrorist organization.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Fiarito</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/opinion/neff-thank-campbells-for-not-giving-in/comment-page-2/#comment-38998</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa Fiarito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 18:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Campbells is mmmmm good!!Way to go. If our federal and state governments would take a stand like Campbells did maybe america really would be the land of equality!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Campbells is mmmmm good!!Way to go. If our federal and state governments would take a stand like Campbells did maybe america really would be the land of equality!</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Bob Brogna M.D.P.C.</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/opinion/neff-thank-campbells-for-not-giving-in/comment-page-2/#comment-38995</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Bob Brogna M.D.P.C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 17:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are pleased that you did not let the AFA or any other bigoted group influence your pro gay/lesbian/family ads.  Your positive message of inclusion and respect for the homosexual community will go a long way in promoting appreciation of your products.  AFA and these other anti-gay hate groups have had their day.   Thanks for making it so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are pleased that you did not let the AFA or any other bigoted group influence your pro gay/lesbian/family ads.  Your positive message of inclusion and respect for the homosexual community will go a long way in promoting appreciation of your products.  AFA and these other anti-gay hate groups have had their day.   Thanks for making it so.</p>
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		<title>By: coxygru</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/opinion/neff-thank-campbells-for-not-giving-in/comment-page-2/#comment-38983</link>
		<dc:creator>coxygru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 15:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Letters may be sent by regular mail to:

American Family Association
P. O. Drawer 2440
Tupelo, MS 38803
Telephone: 662-844-5036

I wrote the AFA to express my intent to inform my representatives in Congress that I do not approve of the AFA&#039;s unpatriotic agenda aimed at undermining civil rights advances for the GLBT community and undermining the health (mental and physical) of today&#039;s youth (straight and gay).

Write to the ATA. But first, read and analyze the drivel on their website and you&#039;ll quickly realize the ATA founder and his mignons are obsessed by sex and power. They are so transparent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Letters may be sent by regular mail to:</p>
<p>American Family Association<br />
P. O. Drawer 2440<br />
Tupelo, MS 38803<br />
Telephone: 662-844-5036</p>
<p>I wrote the AFA to express my intent to inform my representatives in Congress that I do not approve of the AFA&#8217;s unpatriotic agenda aimed at undermining civil rights advances for the GLBT community and undermining the health (mental and physical) of today&#8217;s youth (straight and gay).</p>
<p>Write to the ATA. But first, read and analyze the drivel on their website and you&#8217;ll quickly realize the ATA founder and his mignons are obsessed by sex and power. They are so transparent.</p>
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		<title>By: JayC</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/opinion/neff-thank-campbells-for-not-giving-in/comment-page-2/#comment-38981</link>
		<dc:creator>JayC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 15:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephen:  Thanks for the email address of dcobb.  Letter sent to this bastard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen:  Thanks for the email address of dcobb.  Letter sent to this bastard.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenifer</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/opinion/neff-thank-campbells-for-not-giving-in/comment-page-2/#comment-38966</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 10:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yay! :D I love delicious Campbells soup! So many varieties, so many flavors, so many that are vegetarian/vegan friendly too! (They have a vegetarian vegetable soup, that doesn&#039;t use beef broth, and its nommy!)

Kudos Cambells for sticking to your guns. You provide good food for so many people. :o</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yay! <img src='http://www.365gay.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  I love delicious Campbells soup! So many varieties, so many flavors, so many that are vegetarian/vegan friendly too! (They have a vegetarian vegetable soup, that doesn&#8217;t use beef broth, and its nommy!)</p>
<p>Kudos Cambells for sticking to your guns. You provide good food for so many people. <img src='http://www.365gay.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ncallahan</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/opinion/neff-thank-campbells-for-not-giving-in/comment-page-2/#comment-38949</link>
		<dc:creator>Ncallahan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 05:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Letter sent!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Letter sent!!</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Parrish</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/opinion/neff-thank-campbells-for-not-giving-in/comment-page-2/#comment-38946</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Parrish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 04:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Email sent. Thanks for the heads-up on this. It is important that companies get positive feedback when they are good citizens and do the right thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Email sent. Thanks for the heads-up on this. It is important that companies get positive feedback when they are good citizens and do the right thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/opinion/neff-thank-campbells-for-not-giving-in/comment-page-2/#comment-38939</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 03:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can email AFA at dcobb@afa.net. They don&#039;t offer direct web contact from I can see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can email AFA at <a href="mailto:dcobb@afa.net">dcobb@afa.net</a>. They don&#8217;t offer direct web contact from I can see.</p>
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