Indeed the only out spoken critic of Islams anti Gay agenda is Irshrad Manji, and thats only because she’s a member of our community herself. Rome and SLC may not support our agendas, but they are also the very first to denounce violence against us. You do not punish one sinful act by committing an even worse sinful act.

Yes The Latter Day Saints shelled out a lot of money to support Proposition 8, but we also shelled out a lot of money to oppose Proposition 8. We have made a lot of progress over the years.

In The 80′s when I was just a struggling Drag Queen (at BYU non the less) I never honestly thought that we would have been accepted in society as much as we are today. It was my honest opinion that the Gay Agenda was where the majority of people would draw the line. I was wrong! So the same sex marraige issue suffered a set back?!?! Respect the vote! and try again in 2009

Amen! LOL Well said … my sentiments exactly … where do I sign up? I’ll let ya into my tent if you let me into yours … LOL

I can’t wait for the next pair of rosy cheeked, squeaky clean, Mormon missionaries to show up at my door, with their starched magic undies
and a satchel of pamphlets …. are they in for a surprise!

I usually tell them to go away, that I’m busy getting a blowjob from my boyfriend ….. but I think it might be more entertaining to invite them in for a discussion about Gay Marriage, and the embroidery on their magic undies.

They are with us out of some strange egalitarianism that says “god” must have created us, so we can’t hate them even if they are icky.

Please. this is so stupid. STOP pandering to religion. We DO NOT need to speak out from the choir, we need to LEAVE the entire church.

Gay catholics, gay mormons, gay any sect, how do you sleep at night? You choose to join a CULT that hates you and wants you DEAD.

And this goes for the members of the few small churches that accept us. Episcopals? I was raised in that tradition. Archibishop of Canterbury Williams is a joke to that fair minded tradition. He doesn’t have the spine to stop some of the most hateful bigotry being perpetuated in his very own communion.

GIVE IT UP. There is no god and appeasing the delusional is just simply delusional.

I’m fighting religion for other reasons but it fits nicely into my equality goals.

We must work to take away their tax exemption. We must make them pay property taxes…..the establishment clause clearly says that is illegal…I have to subsidize the church across the street in the form of a higher mill rate due to the value of that church not being on the tax rolls. I PAY FOR RELIGION. How does that make constitutional muster?

If any of you reading this are remotely religious, I urge you to go see a doctor. Tell him you are delusional and need help. Tell him you believe in fairy tales, tell him you follow a cult that wants you to hate yourself simply to get into heaven, a place totally within your imagination. You will then get the help you need and come back to join our movement rationally.

There is no room for irrational people in my increasingly smaller tent. I simply will not let a person talk to me about delusional things without pointing out how wacky they are.

I mean really, have you actually read what they believe? Arks, virgin births, floating into the sky, burning bushes and all that? Can you really believe it?

One more time: appeasing those that hate you and who are delusional will get us nowhere!

So what’s this have to do with Prop 8?
Let’s not wait to figure that out until the sand reaches our chins! The difference between this and how some US churches treat gays is one of degree, not of intent.

(1) We have the nonbelievers (generally) and that is a growing group of citizens. They are at times in worse trouble than we are, because their belief that there isn’t a supernatural power to believe in isn’t protected the same as religious belief, and that is inherently unfair. We ought to be supporting them so their ideas can compete on a level playing field with believers, because that will ultimately benefit us.

(2) We do have the religions, just not the biggest ones. Gay marriage and gay rights has become an issue of encoding the religious views of certain majority religions into law, at the expense of others. Many gays and lesbians are believers, and the point should be made that their religious viewpoints on gay issues are as valid and protected as any others. While gay rights are relatively new, religious rights are not, and this argument will win.