February 9th, 2010
 

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Corvino: The work left to do

, columnist, 365gay.com

Less than a week before the election, polls continue to show close races in both Washington State, where voters may substantially expand domestic-partner legislation, and Maine, where they may rescind marriage-equality. We could win in either state (or both)—but we could lose, too.

Win or lose, there’s one truth this campaign has made abundantly clear. It’s an unpleasant truth, one that most of prefer not to dwell on. Yet it’s important to face:

Many people still find homosexuality weird, disgusting, or abhorrent, and they don’t want it around their children.

If you found that last sentence distasteful to read, let me assure you that it was not pleasant to write. But it’s what we need to reflect on if we’re ultimately going to win.

Confronting this truth is necessary for countering a pervasive myth in our community—namely that, when it comes to securing our rights, it doesn’t really matter what other people think of us.

This myth gets expressed in various ways: Morality is a private matter. What we do at home is no one else’s business. Our rights don’t depend on other people’s comfort-level.

Like most myths, it sounds plausible because it contains a measure of truth: the objective value of our relationships indeed does not depend on what other people think of us. But political battles don’t track objective value. They track public opinion.

And so our opponents run apparently effective ads stating that (for instance) if Maine keeps gay marriage, kids will be taught homosexuality in schools.

This claim is, strictly speaking, false: Maine curriculum is controlled locally, and whether or not Maine schoolchildren learn about homosexuality doesn’t directly hinge on whether the state embraces marriage equality. But the claim also contains a germ of truth: the greater the number of states with marriage equality, the more likely it is that, in the course of regular instruction, students will learn about the existence of gay people.

Such a result is very scary for some parents. As Matt Foreman writes at Bilerico:

“[T]he kid/schools attack ads are effective because they go right to the parental-protection gut of parents. They carry a double-whammy: first, that young people can be taught (read ‘recruited’) to be gay or lesbian, and second, that kids will come home asking questions about sex and sexuality. Whether we like it or not, most parents deep down would really rather their children not turn out to be gay and certainly don’t want to be talking about sex, period, let alone gay sex with their kids. This is deep, non-rational stuff.”

(It should go without saying, but age-appropriate discussion of gay people and relationships does not usually involve explicit discussion of gay sex. It SHOULD go without saying, but it can’t, because many opponents seem unable to make that simple distinction.)

There are several lessons to be gleaned here.

First, the closet is still powerful. While some of us treat “National Coming Out Day” as a quaint relic of bygone times, the reality is that many who claim to be our friends and neighbors are still viscerally uncomfortable with us at some level. I don’t care how popular Ellen is: a majority of her fellow Californians voted to deny her the right to marry.

What this means is that merely knowing that we exist is not enough. Our fellow citizens need to know us at a deeper level. It DOES matter what they think of us.

Second, and related, the case for marriage equality can’t be divorced from the case for moral equality—that is, the case for our relationships’ being positive and valuable (and holy, for those of a religious bent). Those of us who make the moral case are sometimes dismissed as “apologists.” We need more apologists (in this classic sense of the term).

Third, we need to keep exposing our opponents’ true intentions, which have become increasingly evident in this campaign season. As Jonathan Rauch explains at the Independent Gay Forum,

“Opponents of gay marriage in Maine do not just want to block gay marriage. They want to use the law to force all discussion of gay marriage out of the schools. In other words, they demand to turn the public schools into closets.”

This, despite the fact that nearby Massachusetts, Vermont, New Hampshire and Connecticut have marriage equality. And despite the fact that some of these schoolchildren have gay relatives. Or are being raised by gay parents. Or are gay themselves.

In short, our opponents’ agenda is a truly radical one, which aims not merely to deny us marriage but to obliterate our very existence. We need to call them out on it.

I’d love to be pleasantly surprised next Wednesday morning, and discover that our opponents’ appeals to voters’ irrational fears were no match for our appeals to their better nature. It could happen. But whatever happens, we have much work left to do.

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John Corvino, Ph.D. is an author, speaker, and philosophy professor at Wayne State University in Detroit. His column “The Gay Moralist” appears Fridays on 365gay.com.

For more about John Corvino, or to see clips from his “What’s Morally Wrong with Homosexuality?” DVD, visit www.johncorvino.com.

His upcoming speaking appearances include:

November 10: Central Washington University (debate with Glenn Stanton)

November 11: Colorado State University, Pueblo (debate with Glenn Stanton)

November 12: Miami University of Ohio

November 16: Bergen Community College (NJ)

Check school websites for rooms and times.


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  • michaelnDallas Said: October 30th, 2009 at 9:51 am
    • People in general are absessed with others sex lives! When they meet someone new, one of their FIRST questions is are you married, FOLLOWED BY, do you have children? Children are the product of sex! When they meet a gay person/couple, they are still in this mode. THEY THINK SEX! Only with us they don’t understand and obsess about it! They can’t get certain images out of their mind, Lord knows what they do to their heterosexual acquaintences! I believe it’s only human, but for us, it is so out of their relm of comprehension, getting to the fact we love, and cherish our partner, just like they do. We share, and do everything else they do in their lives. They also get hung up on steriotypical roles? Who’s doing laundry, cutting the grass. fixing the leak in the sink?!!!!!! They truely obsess.

  • Craig in AZ Said: October 30th, 2009 at 10:11 am
    • What happens MOST of the time, is the hets ASSUME we even WANT to have anything to do with their children.

      Personally, I detest the little monsters, want nothing to do with them, and would rather never even SEE them (much less hear them).

      Now I realize there are perfectly charming kids out there, in fact, I am ALSO aware that the reason I detest most children is because of their sorry excuses for parents.

      In a perfect world, we could have our own nation, and the hets would need a passport to visit us. Unfortunately, there is the reality of THEM deciding wheather or not to “allow” us our constitutional rights. This whole thing sucks, BIG time. (Protecting their children….. Hell, protect US!)

  • Victor Said: October 30th, 2009 at 10:23 am
    • Thank you Mr. Corvino. I wish more people would talk about the moralizing of our relationships. I personally live a very non-traditional life. That non traditional life has nothing to do with the fact that I am gay. I have a partner who wants many of the same things I want, and so it works out. What I refuse to do, and what I see many of the more non trad lifestyle homosexual people I know do is claim that anyone who wants the picket fence and 2.458 kids is just pretending and that everyone really wants the crazy free sex lifestyle they are living. That drives me completely nuts. It’s time for us to stand up and accept that part of being “equal” to everyone else is accepting that these counter culture lifestyles we’ve built for ourselves are in many cases a reaction to the fact that we didn’t have access to the picket fence, and much as we may be comfortable in these roles it isn’t fair of us to deny the upcoming generation the right to choose if they are going to live with the picket fence or the dungeon in their basement (or as is so common with het culture, both). You are right Mr. Corvino we need more apologists, and as someone who at best will ever have a picket fence as a front for the dungeon I would still be at the top of that list if I thought I could do it with a straight face.

  • DaveW Said: October 30th, 2009 at 10:55 am
    • I agree with John and Facebook user. We do need people to accept the “morality” of our relationships.

      But I disagree that we need that acceptance to gain our rights. We have something called the constitution and the judiciary. We should/will have our rights regardless of public opinion, and we should not be seeing the votes in Maine, CA and all those states that enshrined bigotry into their constitutions, because in America mob rule is not supposed to block access to rights.

      some will disagree and say acceptance is the goal…I think it is the goal if we want a civil society. The fearmongers will destroy our society over this and other things they want marginalized if allowed…and we must stop it in unison with our het supporters.

      Please remember that many other civil rights advances occured without a majority of public support.

      Also remember that while working to gain acceptance we cannot back down on our position that if you find our relationships wrong, immoral or disgusting, and choose to act on that in the voting booth or on the legislative floor, you are acting on your prejudice and that is bigotry.

      That is a hard pill to swallow for many people who simply want to continue to be uncomfortable without being labelled sub human. It is also hard for our own apologists at times. but it is true. It is simply a fact that if you have a prejudice and use it to try to take away rights, you are a bigoted sub human piece of slime.

      I know plenty of people that are uncomfortable but do not extend that to bigotry…there is a huge difference there.

      So while in Maine I’ve been trying to show my neighbors that we are an acceptable family, I also tell the supporters of the veto that they are bigoted. You can have both conversations, each with the right audience.

      Acceptance would be nice, but I firmly believe it is that…a nice to have. Equal protection under the law is not about acceptance, and it is non-negotiable.

  • michaelnDallas Said: October 30th, 2009 at 11:03 am
    • to the Facebook user, many of us share the house picket fence, mortgage, car payments and children/pets lives. WE don’t have a corner on the market for kink in our lives, if we did str8 people wouldn’t have a 50% divorce rate. We wouldn’t have housewifes from all over on TV. Str8 people obsess on our sex lives to divert attention from their own!

  • marcus99 Said: October 30th, 2009 at 11:19 am
    • Mr. Corvino prefaces this interesting reflection piece by stating “Many people still find homosexuality weird, disgusting, or abhorrent, and they don’t want it around their children.”

      Reflecting further on the verb “find”, I’m not sure people “find” us as anything. Indeed, if they were left to “find” us, they would probably find us to have few differences, and more in common.

      I would argue people “find” nothing. They are taught. They assimilate information by what they are told by people they trust, or believe, or are convinced to believe. Those who find us disgusting are taught to do so, most probably from a pulpit.

      Education is the key to both sides of this spectrum. It is why the Christian right boycotted Ford for advertising in the Advocate. They were not attacking Ford; they were attacking one of our knowledge dissemination foundations. They know if they undermine our ability to educate ourselves and others, then they will effectively be able to shout us down; in a manner very similar to the shouting town hall strategy on healthcare.

      This is why the public education forums Corvino devotes so much time to are so important. We do not have the pulpits and captive audiences they do. We must improvise.

  • Christopher A Emery Said: October 30th, 2009 at 11:54 am
    • Oi, hate to sound simple minded but has anyone ever wanted to through a brick at these peoples (as in opponets to gay marriage) heads!?

  • typhoon Said: October 30th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
    • Simply put. Out of the clubs, and into the school halls. Let’s start by educating that ones we’re able to reach at least on this format with the internet. The gays from all over visiting this website, and others like this one, on a daily basis. Educate how? You ask. Well, by instead of overexposing them to all the negative news of the day, and maybe one or two positive ones. How about creating a balance? A balance of, “boo, more religious bigots!” and “yay, we have another ally! etc, etc, etc”. By educating them no matter how much hatred we run up against each and every day, we are still a part of what makes this a great nation to live in.

      That we too like everyone else have our struggles, and triumphs. That practicing the simplest of values brought to you by The foundation for a better life,

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P567soqB4yc

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzOPWde8eW0

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ac7KeVPJ8G4

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ft8pZmjW1Ns

      are small simple steps we as individuals could take in our own neighborhoods to not only make this country, and even the world a better place, but ultimately create an even more positive image for our community. Because, hate cannot be defeated by more hate, except love. As the saying goes, “keep your friends closer, and enemies even closer”. lol And that! My friends, is the result of an hangover. G’day. Have a happy and wonderfully gay weekend everybody.

  • Facebook User Said: October 30th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
    • Thank you, John. As a Californian, I have been ILL over the closeness of the polls in WASH and MAINE…. and it is for exactly the reasons you give. I know that is why people I used to call friends in CA stated they voted Yes to H8.
      I also agree with Marcus99… people do not ‘find’ us at all..
      as in the song from South Pacific, written in l947 note..
      We must be ‘carefully taught to hate all the people our relatives hate’.
      But, by the same polls we know that the next generation, in a much larger percentage are NOT being taught that at all.
      They are being taught RESPECT! for those with differences.
      So, at least, time in in our favor on this.

  • TigerTzu Said: October 30th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
    • “Many people still find homosexuality weird, disgusting, or abhorrent, and they don’t want it around their children.”

      The same could be said about organized religions.

  • Facebook User Said: October 30th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
    • I still don’t understand it. I’m from Canada. Most people here are totally cool with it. Why is this such a big deal in America. I think that if we could identify WHY people feel this way, maybe we could combat it. But I can’t because I don’t understand the nature of the problem. It just makes no sense.

  • fwilms Said: October 30th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
    • I truly want to gain popular acceptance some day. However, the fight that I’m interested in is the one that says equal civil rights for all U.S. Citizens is not decided by vote. It was provided by the equal protection clause in the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. The majority does not get to vote against the equal civil rights of the minority. Gay marriage is not a voting issue, anymore than we can vote to remove the freedom of religion from the Mormons, or vote to disallow Americans of Russian descent to marry. Why are we still voting on my civil rights and equality?

  • bama-stu Said: October 30th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
    • I have recently been reading a book by Joe Kort and he put it very well. When someone is identified as gay, straight people automatically think of sex and the sex act. When someone is identified as heterosexual, the first thing that comes to mind is not the sex act. We must educate people that LGBT people are so much more than the “sex,” just as they are so much more than just straight sex.

  • Craig in AZ Said: October 30th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
    • @ Facebook User
      “I still don’t understand it. I’m from Canada. Most people here are totally cool with it. Why is this such a big deal in America.”

      The most likely answer to your question is, that Americans (collectively) are a bunch of tight-assed idiots.

  • Amym440 Said: November 1st, 2009 at 9:32 pm
    • Another ugly truth is that gay adoption and parenthood is killing gay marriage at the voting booth.I had a conversation with someone who identified themselves as being a liberal democrat. According to them they could not vote for gay marriage because of personal issues they had with children being raised in a same sex household.If liberal votes are being lost because of this it says that it’s a major hurdle that needs to be addressed or recognition of same sex marriage and lgbt rights are going to get a dnr order.

 
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