Comments on: Corvino: The truth about gay adoption

By: vanndean

vanndean — Fri, 06 Feb 2009 03:11:24 +0000

What a shame that people like Ana have survived well into the 21st century with only the attitudes of the 19th century and the learning of the 18th century.

I shall keep working to make sure that the attitudes of such ignorance do not get enacted into the laws of our country.

By: TANK

TANK — Fri, 06 Feb 2009 01:33:49 +0000

Ana’s coming to terms with her sexuality. It’s very obvious. Cut this crank loose.

By: Tori

Tori — Fri, 06 Feb 2009 00:57:27 +0000

I grew up in foster care as a ward of the state. I never had parents or a permanent home and I would have appreciated anyone willing to adopt me. I would have been happy living in a trailer with a pack of wolves, as long as I knew it was my home and I was wanted. Children in foster care just want permanent homes and some sense of belonging. Would it be a better choice to let them live in foster care until they’re 18? Having any sort of a parental figure would be better than that.

By: Melvin

Melvin — Mon, 02 Feb 2009 13:00:02 +0000

Ana demonstrates her own level of prejudice in her comments. I suggest she is also a mirror of what is wrong with our children’s advocacy. There are folks out there who wish only the ‘perfect’ scenero for children. While that is good, it is not realistic. Even in heterosexual relationships there is child abuse, sexual abuse and mental abuse. To say nothing of using their children as battering rams against the other spouse. So, to equate that that is better than…….oh do I dare say……same-sex couples is having your head up your A$$. I personally know of two cases of idiocy. One was a straight couple who didn’t get kids because they had a dog dish sitting on their kitchen floor. Unhealthy so the child advocacy folks said. The second was a single man who worked in an orphanage and befriended a young boy was always alone and picked on… he was like 8-10 years old. He wanted to adopt him but was told they were waiting for a couple. This boy lived in the orphanage until he was 18 and then shown the door. What crap. Family values my; you know what! Ana, with all your rhetoric, I suggest you are more of a problem for orphaned kids then any gay couple.

By: SteveMD2

SteveMD2 — Mon, 02 Feb 2009 06:32:43 +0000

The more I read some comments here, I am beginning to believe that homophobia is actually a church induced mental illness that poisons our society.

Just as it did with Black people, with Jews, and other minorities.

By: montrealbren

montrealbren — Mon, 02 Feb 2009 05:08:39 +0000

@ Morgan: To clarify: while I have no problem with religion. Our few Anglican churches up here in Quebec will still bless a gay union, regardless of the Archbishop of Canterbury’s pleas and the various agreements that church has been strong-armed into. I guess I would say my reservations lie with “religiosity” – whether I’ve got my semantics right I’m not sure, but as only a handful of truths are universal, I believe that social discourse infused with “religiosity” (a good synonym would be ‘truthiness’) is dangerous in that it does not represent any universal truth or value.
I am a vehement supporter of freedom of religion, and am delighted that your post named a US religious figure that I’ll research. I admit to being largely ignorant about Christian churches in the US that accept us on equal par with heterosexual worshipers.
As for my kid-glove treatment of Ana in an earlier post, I guess I’m guilty of attempting to offering an open hand to a clenched fist… But living in Canada, where gays have achieved legal parity with straights, has perhaps made me a softie. Ana did bring on the onslaught on her own, but I’ve always felt that an attempt to treat ideological differences with a modicum of respect is the best approach, especially when my initial reaction to Ana’s fears was pity, not anger.
Then I noted that Ana mentioned I should be considering the local ASPCA if I want to adopt. By the time I got around to thanking you for your post, I realized that Ana, while eloquent in her religiosity, was really aiming for the jugular. Frankly, I’ve forgotten just how shrill we Americans are, how prone we are to flip out, and how bitterly contentious we have become. So I had to throw the adopt-a-dog argument back with some petulance.
As for this RJLigier, I must confess that I don’t understand a word he says. I think he needs professional assistance, and I am unqualified to answer what is apparently written in an unsound state of mind. While Ana tried to present a solid argument and failed, this other guy just spouted venom.

@ Menstruator
While I get a kick out of your posts, and you introduce many interesting lines of thought that need consideration, your anti-hetero fervor seems a bit scary. The only place I feel it can lead is to gay-supremacy, which is bigotry par excellence. Do we have to be part of a distinct and visible tribe? Do we even have to have shared values? Do we need to permanently settle in ghettos that reflect virtually no diversity whatsoever? While you don’t propose such things outright, I can’t help but wonder if this is how you feel things should be. I don’t think we have much to fear from assimilation in certain areas, for assimilation will certainly not make us heterosexuals. I find nothing perverse in wanting to form stable couples that are treated equally by US law as other couples – it hasn’t ruined Canada, Belgium, the Netherlands, England, etc. All have thriving gay communities, and they all basically treat gays and straights alike when it comes to taxation, legislation, and social policy. While I thoroughly support your desire to not assimilate, I think that the assimilation threat you perceive is overstated. While I don’t see many of us running off to the military anytime soon, I feel that an important way to honor all of our community is to allow them to do so if that is their calling. As a translator that speaks languages most useful at a time like this, I don’t feel I’d be contributing to the killing if I were allowed to contribute to the communication. Case in point: 56 Arabic-speaking translators fired for being gay. They will be sorely missed by those that need information – it takes about 12,000 hours of study to become a good translator. Translators are where smart diplomacy begins, if you ask me. And our military adventures show that we’ve lost the ability to communicate (those without communication skills are most likely to resort to violence – see many reports on issue).
If I’ve misunderstood you, please advise: I do enjoy your posts throughout this site because they give me food for thought. I do, however, fear your seeming hatred of heterosexuality. And your apparent insistence that g’s, l’s, b’s, and t’s who emulate straight people in any way are somehow traitors.

By: Zeta

Zeta — Mon, 02 Feb 2009 05:07:21 +0000

What these people fail to realize is that gay parents, if they wanted, could still have their own children via artificial fertilization and adoption laws and the government would be able to do diddly-poop to stop them. The true victims in such a case would be the unwanted children who spend their entire lives in foster homes until they’re booted out onto the ghetto streets when they turn 18 because nobody wants them.

By: Scott

Scott — Mon, 02 Feb 2009 01:34:58 +0000

Gay parents are great. I wish I had two.

By: Aiden Raccoon

Aiden Raccoon — Sun, 01 Feb 2009 22:10:56 +0000

Ana, unless you have facts to back up your claims then your argument is trash. Homosexuals do not harm children and there is every study done to prove that. Also understand that there are many gay couples who already have children and are already allowed to foster them. The only question here is the official adoption which would make the fostering permanent. Adopting a child protects them. I don’t know about all the funding but they do get help with college after they are able to move out. Also there is nothing stopping a child being adopted by a single parent and then moving in with a 2nd gay parent.

By: tim

tim — Sun, 01 Feb 2009 14:20:27 +0000

“The menstruator” scares me… lol but she does have a good point. The sexual revolution that brought about questions in regards to accepted gender norms, femminism, and the ever popular gay rights movement had at its very core the desire to move away from many of these societal traditions… but hey I grew up in a family where a traditional family is accepted. I want something close to it lol