I know bullshit and ignorance when I read it.

The difference is that in those states, they did not have an existing right removed. Our Supreme Court ruled that marriage for us is a civil right; then we had that removed by a vote. Yes, we still have domestic partnerships, but separate is not equal.

We are all involved in a civil rights movement. It will take time to get where we want to be, but we will get there. For those who get bored quickly or are more concerned with cocktails, these are your rights, too. We all need to fight together and be united no matter how long it takes.

I can’t believe you would just belittle fellow gay people like that who may have had (or are having) some very hard lives or very bad experiences in their lives which would make such matters as this important to them that they wouldn’t find it as something so easy to joke about or take lightly. Maybe you should get over yourself?

You’re a Californian I suspect?

I genuflect before you. Clearly, you’re from the Real America where people are pro-American as Sarah Palin said. Doubtless you’re a hard working American, a white American, as Hillary Clinton said.

Now, have I pandered to your regional narcissism enough?

I took this column as just a reminder to keep perspective, so that we don’t get TOO demoralized mid-stream in what we know will be an ongoing fight. This isn’t conciliatory, and we shouldn’t take it as such. It would be a real tragedy if we let internal disagreements over points of rhetoric drive us to waste our energy and anger fighting each other, instead of the real opponents… fundie douchebags NATIONWIDE.

Clint, your words show that you don’t understand how bad it is outside the Cali-bubble. I don’t think Corvino was telling anybody to be grateful for being denied your rights; I think he was VERY rightly trying to remind those of you in the “Safe Zones” that we in the Flyover don’t have a fraction of what you do, and that we won’t win this fight until those in the bubble have some appreciation for life outside it. C’mon dude, is that really so much to ask?

So, for those who would like to live in Southern California, it has good weather.

BUT, I did get tired of the fires, the floods, the drive-by shootings (in my own front yard, btw), the helicopter malathion spraying everywhere, the traffic, the EARTHQUAKES (shaken out of bed by a 7.4 and 7.2 the day before we drove out of the state, on PRIDE day, none the less, and called “QUEERQUAKE” that day), the outrageous real estate prices, the big-big taxes, and the unparalleled unemployment in my life, TO NAME A FEW bad characteristics of such a place.

I had a good job that paid well, but we could not afford to live there on one salary. I took a 60% cut in pay to go to Ohio, and we lived 10 times better than what California offered … even still offers.

We moved to Florida in the late 1990’s, and bought triple the house for the same money we paid in Ohio. Of course, everyone followed and the Florida real estate has taken the country’s worst dive in known history. I like the rain here, but not the winter cold, but even that is much better than anywhere along the Ohio Valley.

OK, what is the point? We have done Illinois, West Virginia, Kentucky, California, Ohio, and Florida. There is not one of the places I would recommend 100%. Everyplace has its problems. Some are worse than others. In those places, some of the people are by far worse than in other places. People were more accepting to your face in California, and a far cry different when they were in the voting booth, and probably at their home too. In Florida, some places and some people are just plain rude about their prejudice and bigotry, and they will voice their opinion out loud. I have had to do the same back and shame them for their evilness and over zealousness about their religion. That does shut them up, to call them on the carpet for their overt discrimination. I had to tell them to go home a pray over their ill-begotten ideas and nasty religion. I also tell them ONE CANNOT PRAY AWAY THE GAY. So, we are queer; we are here. They need to get over it, NOW.

What moat people on here do not understand, including Mr. Corvino, is that a small minority (say what, an out 10% is out best estimate, fully 5% is more likely) can never fight the BIG money that comes from our foes. We cannot also allow our community to be run over by the “tyranny of the majority”. We cannot convince those who disbelieve in our cause otherwise, and particularly the “anti-same-sex marriage” religious sheep who give up their ability to think to their leaders. It just won’t happen. All you bloggers and commentators and opinionator, FACE THE TRUTH, please.

We have only one recourse. LAWSUITS! Thousands and thousands of lawsuits at the Federal level! We must MAKE the US Supreme Court hear our plea, know that we are a “suspect group”, and understand that we deserve our constitutionally-granted civil rights. It is a matter of secular contract to be able to marry, and it is a matter of equality of taxation under the law. If I must pay extra because I cannot marry my partner of choice, they will have to give up their “special right” to lower taxes as well. It is costing us thousands of dollars yearly (per same-sex couple that is) to be on an unequal footing. We are denied over 1000 “secular legal benefits” by the government — denying us our right to choose the partner of our own selection.

Many of our opponents have chosen their religion. But all religions do not discriminate against same-sex relationships. So their “chosen anti-same-sex marriage moral position” is not law, and never will be in this country. They do NOT have a superior moral standing because of their religion. If they want their right to freedom of religion, then they MUST give me mine or they MUST GIVE UP THEIRS as well.

You see, they want it all strictly for themselves, and want to deny us our legal granted rights.

We cannot:
(1) Get them to change by being nice to them (what happened in the voting booth already proved that),
(2) Or by trying to educate the “un-educatable” opponents (remember they already gave up their ability to think),
(3) Or simply “out waiting” those who would deny us our due (young voters turn into old prejudiced voters — look at the baby boom for that truth).

NO! We must fight back now, or it will never happen. Our window of opportunity is NOW; else it might just close soon and never be opened again.<=== Said with fist held high in the air!

Let “HORTON HEAR A WHO”, please! Who, you ask? US, and NOW! Or just shut the hell up and live in shame and discrimination forever. Those are your only choices, plain and simple.