Under President Palin, those 3 judges will likely take away the right of every woman to choose whether or not to carry a pregnancy to term. Mrs Palin had a choice, but she would take it away from every other woman in America.

As for giving you freedoms (despite the fact that you are already ‘guaranteed’ the right to liberty, not to mention the pursuit of happiness), don’t count on that fom ANY Republican, and certainly not from one who ‘thinks’ you can pray away the gay, and that you shouldn’t be allowed to have benefits at work, or to get married.

The ‘pregnancy’ thing is merely an ironic highlight of the hypocrisy of Mrs Palin’s policies – abstinence ONLY, despite the fact that neither she nor her daughter abstained prior to marriage (i.e. the policy doesn’t WORK, and she herself is proof of that, yet she would impose that policy on ALL Americans).

This is about the platform that the candidates are running on. While I appreciate the L and R I personally don’t care whose daughter or son did what.

What I care about is 2 very simple things:

1 – who is going to choose the next THREE judges to the supreme court over the next 4 years – BIG TIME!
2 – who is going to give me freedoms that matter and support self and communal respect, who?

Lets stop trying to make ourselves “so” right, I couldn’t care what party your for as long as you vote for what makes logical sense> look at our future, which could go either way after 11/08 and wake up.

I was going to rebut with a statement that I wasn’t stereotyping ALL right-wing gays, only the ignorant ones like “Bobby”, but then you went and typed:

“This right wing gay does not support the theocracy that many social conservatives try to place on our nation’

Well bully for you, but the Republicans DO support theocratic policies. In droves.

You typed:

“A conservative value is one of small government where the government plays a very very small role in an individual’s private life”

Again, bully for you, but that is diametrically opposed to the Republican party’s stance when it comes to YOUR private life.

You cannot type in one sentence: “I don’t support hate crime legislation” but “I say if it is to exist then sexual orientation should be included” in the next, especially cosidering that that is exactly what such legislation is about (not to mention that gays are the very people Republicans don’t think are worthy of protections of any kind in the first place).

You typed: “I don’t support nondiscrimination legislation in the private sector”. I find this incredible. Do you honestly believe that the Holiday Inn should have the ‘right’ to refuse to rent you a hotel room because you are gay? Or that McDonald’s should be allowed to post a sign ‘We don’t serve queers here.’? Or that your employer should be able to say ‘We don’t hire fags.’??? If so, I think you’re nuts.

“The government as no right to tell any individual what they should and should not do so long as said individual is not imposing on the rights of another individual.”

But that is precisely what the Republicans have done for the past 8 years. Granting gays equality before the law does not take away anyone else’s rights. Why don’t you understand that?

“Unlike many socialist who believe employment and health care are rights right wing gays like myself know they are responsibilities.”

When 50,000,000 Americans can’t afford health care, it doesn’t MATTER if it is a “right” or a “responsibility” – it is a tragedy. And when a hospital can deny a gay person’s spouse visitation rights and life/death decision responsibilities – a “right” every heterosexual spouse has – or when an employer can deny their gay employees health benefits coverage for their spouses – then your “rights” v. “responsibilities” debate is just a joke.

And when you can be fired (or not hired) in 37 Sates just for being gay, how can gay Americans – even right-wing gays like yourself – even take on that “responsibility” to begin with?

Pure and utter delusion. Sorry if you find that as a stereotpe – it’s how I see your response and your attitude.

As a left-wing gay, let me inform you that she was told by her State’s Supreme Court that the legislation was UN-Consitutional. She only vetoed it because she had to, and even then did so very reluctantly.

Why are so many ‘right-wing gays’ so ill-informed, especially about issues that affect them personally?

Why do you need to be reminded that ALL citizens are created equal, that ALL citizens have the right to pursue happiness, and that ALL citizens have the right to liberty?

Michael typed: “Will you clam it is not hypocrisy because Sen. Obama WANTS his daughters to have sex as teenagers and WANTS them to get pregnant. No, of course he does not; as Gov. Palin didn’t either. The fact that Gov. Sarah Palin still loves and supports her daughter after she defied her wishes does not make Gov. Sarah Palin a bad person.”

True, but it does make her a major hypocrite because it is more than just “her wishes” – it is her POLICY, one that, as President, she would impose on ALL citizens, not just her daughters.

“Some nuanced argument that because she is pro abstinence and her daughter failed to live up to that by getting pregnant and then NOT having a secret abortion, she is somehow a failure is ridiculous.”

It is NOT Mrs Palin that is a “failure”; it is her POLICY (and it’s abstinence ONLY, not just “pro-abstinence” – why do so many on the ‘right’ alway forget that one word?) that is a failure.

Up until recently, Mary Cheney COULDN’T – by law! And that ‘law’ is firmly grounded in the mean-spiritedness and the hypocrisy of the Republican party. Protecting the “sanctity” of marriage is their mantra – seems marriage is for pregnant teens, but not for queers.

“But the sharpest difference in the cases is the contrast in right-wingers’ compassion. It’s the difference in empathy, a trait that’s at the core of the Golden Rule.”

Dick Cheney is proof positive that Republicans do not have the empathy gene nor a modicum of compasion – for the ‘other’, at least.

“They tell heterosexuals: abstinence until marriage—and if you fail, we forgive you. For gays, it’s abstinence forever—and if you fail, we denounce you.”

Worth repeating, but it still falls short. Not only do they denounce us,they pass laws to keep us as 2nd class citizens. Forever, apparently.

That is NOT the reason Mrs Palin is seen as a hypocrite, Mr. Corvno. The reason she is seen as a hypocrite is because she preaches one thing and she (and her daughter) practise another.

Youtyped: “There’s no inconsistency in believing both that we should teach abstinence until marriage and that we should support those children who become pregnant anyway. There’s no hypocrisy in striving for an ideal that you and your loved ones occasionally fall short of.”

Occasionally??? Two for two is more like it. That neither she nor her daughter could abstain until marriage demonstrates the folly of teaching abstinence ONLY (you forgot that second word, Mr Corvino).

“The fact is, Sarah Palin’s rejection of comprehensive sex education deserves criticism on its own merits. Her family’s behavior has nothing to do with it”

Yes it does because as President, she would impose her preferred ‘teachings’ on ALL Americans, and it is the imposition of that policy that we criticize. Her family’s failings are merely the (appropriate) illustration of WHY we criticize the poliy. I thought the goal was to reduce unwanted pregnancies.

The only thing they care about is political power and the money that comes from it. And who they hurt doesn’t matter.

I was a republican all my life until Bush, monster that he is, woke me up to his ultimate corruption of our government, while he empowered the least thinking, most brainwashed and brainwashing people in our nation.

And McCain, by selecting Palin, is willing to sell our nation out completely to the worst of the worst liars, right wing hypocrite religious leaders. Their votes in the past gave us Bush, Iraq, a totering economy with people losing houses left and right, and our children looking at a possible $1 trillion bailout of wall street and the mortgage brokers. While jobs go left and right to the far east.

If McCain and Palin win, our nation becomes a functional theocracy. A greater danger to our freedoms then Al-Qaeda, for the religious right wing would destroy the very meaning of freedom, for pure and absolute power and the ability to keep controlling people with their myths, lies, hatreds, etc. And they would make the gays of America ever more so object of religious hatred. Nothing could be worse, for this nation and the leadership we once offered the world, Nothing.