Comments on: Besen: Beauty queen vs. bitchy queen

By: not hateful just honest

not hateful just honest — Thu, 07 May 2009 14:19:00 +0000

Frankly, the majority of Americans do not care what homosexuals do behind doors. That is your business. What is my business is when you come in my face and tell me that I am a homophobe and that your lifestyle is normal or acceptable. Everyone has a right to their opinion. This is America is about, and the constitution ensure that right. Don’t try to change overwhelming American values to suit your lifestyle. Ms. California when asked a loaded question, did everything she could to gracefully answer that question, and try not to be unkind to others or stir up conterversy. On the other hand, perez hilton was the ignorant, hateful one. Try and argue that what I am saying is not true.

By: rantboy

rantboy — Thu, 07 May 2009 13:42:20 +0000

Hey OJ
Others have responded to your post already, so I won’t bother pointing out why you’re wrong. But I really couldn’t let this bit pass:

“Gays and lesbian have not suffered the big deal of Black people during the horrible 200 years of slavery, discrimination and abuse, or perhaps the persecution of Jews during World War I.”

Do a bit of reading, willya?

By: Chris Schroeder

Chris Schroeder — Mon, 04 May 2009 03:53:59 +0000

Miss California has the right to be as ignorant or as bigoted as she chooses. For me, a gay American, I see nothing beautiful about that. She deserved to lose, and she did. The fact that she won in California, home of Proposition 8, is echoes eerily of a root-cause problem in that state. Then again, it isn’t like California has problems like Oklahoma or Texas.

Let her say what she wants. All this attention is unwarranted and somehow… immodest.

By: Kirby

Kirby — Sun, 03 May 2009 00:46:48 +0000

I wish to respond to only one of Miss California’s comments. Her belief that a man and a woman is the only normal marriage. Well, I was taught either by the words or by actions that Black and Brown persons were lessor than my white family and friends. Today, that is not an acceptable attitude is our society. I was also taught that “queers” were bad people and should not be tolerated. Suprpise, I have known that I was queer from about the age of 5…it took me 40+ years to overcome that untruth. We have been taught many incorrect and inhuman ideals over the years, but that does not make them right.

By: knowledge

knowledge — Sat, 02 May 2009 19:56:58 +0000

How absurd. We already tolerate bigots in America. What we will NOT tolerate is bigots taking away a civil liberty. It happened with interracial marriage in this country and it’s happening again. Guess what, interracial marriage was eventually allowed. The same will happen for gay marriage no matter how much you piss and moan and pretend that we aren’t being tolerant because we are proponents of equal rights.

You must have fallen off of one heck of a turnip truck.

Oh, one more thing OJ, you don’t know how badly gays and lesbians who ARE BLACK.

“Homophobia is like racism and anti-Semitism and other forms of bigotry in that it seeks to dehumanize a large group of people, to deny their humanity, their dignity and personhood” -Coretta Scott King

By: Fed Up

Fed Up — Fri, 01 May 2009 03:13:04 +0000

@R&R (about your oj comments)

RIGHT ON honey!

By: JERRY

JERRY — Fri, 01 May 2009 00:29:51 +0000

SAY WHAT YOU WILL ABOUT PEREZ BUT I ALSO SAY “YOU GO GIRL”!!! LOL

By: R&R

R&R — Fri, 01 May 2009 00:21:29 +0000

oj, you sound much like Anita Bryant. You do not know our history. Most of “you” don’t. So you mouth off without doing any research. Like the fantasy book called the bible, your diatribe has more than one contradiction.
“Freedom.” “Tolerance.” – yes but with your stipulated conditions. It is neither freedom nor tolerance if each is tagged with conditions.

Marriage should be nothing other than a commitment to each other made by two souls. Gender should play no part in that committment. It should be all about love, not plumbing.

What are you scared of? What threatens you? If your marriage is a perfect joining of two souls who love each other and are commited to each other why are you so worried, concerned, hysterical over what others do? Is you life that empty? Is your marriage that empty or phony?

Your arguments are empty arguments. They are arguments made by someone who’s life is so narrow and so empty that there is nothing more to do than attempt to control others with whom you disagree. Too much cool aid, oj, put the glass down.

By: oj

oj — Thu, 30 Apr 2009 23:38:10 +0000

Frankly speaking to gays and lesbians, I don’t hate you people and whatever you want to do with your life is your problem, but hey, let others be who they want to be at the same time.

The solution to the gay-lesbian issue against heterosexuals in three simple steps:
1) Legal Union. First of all acknowledge that the word Marriage cannot be used in a gay union, since it was originally created to define the joint of a Man and a Woman. Those were the original values adopted by our first Fathers when America was founded. Do you want to have legal rights?, so be it, but call it “Gayrriage”, “Lesrriage” or “Union”. You can do whatever you want with your own beings then give the rest of the people the same right.
2) Freedom of speech. You have to accept others in their own believe, this is part of the self-tolerance and acceptance that we need in America. Don’t claim to be un-understood if you don’t accept other people’s opinions. When a gay or lesbian is asked publicly about their opinion they are allowed to talk, but right now that doesn’t happen the other way around. Carrie Prejean is a good example of that, she was asked about her opinion and she expressed it, but was unfairly criticized because of that. I think she did the right thing, she said what she thought, the same way a gay or a lesbian would do it, so why not letting her and other people talk. Gays are claiming rights by obliterating others the same right. Expect a fair treatment by giving example of fair treatment.
3) Accept other people. If you were to help someone during an emergency, would you ask for race, religion, origin, social status, or sexual tendency before helping? that’s stupid. Gays and lesbian have not suffered the big deal of Black people during the horrible 200 years of slavery, discrimination and abuse, or perhaps the persecution of Jews during World War I. Gays and Lesbian are accepted today in big corporations, in fact there are companies with policies that protect them, so why do you have to alienate others?. The same way you have the right to be accepted, you have the obligation to accept other people who believe in traditional marriage.

The only way we could survive together in America is by tolerance and acceptance. Extremism is a demonstration of lack of tolerance, that’s why we are fighting guerrillas all over the world because they don’t negotiate they just kill if you don’t agree with them.
Let’s enjoy this great nation of ours where we have the right of being who we want to be and live freely.

By: Jonathan

Jonathan — Thu, 30 Apr 2009 17:44:43 +0000

Here is a quote from Brian Brown, director of the National Organization for Marriage:

“‘Our mission is to protect marriage and the faith communities that sustain it,’ the group’s executive director Brian Brown said Tuesday. ‘We want to highlight the very real effects on our liberties and especially on religious organizations, businesses, and individuals.’

Brown also said Tuesday that the group is concerned that people of faith who oppose same-sex marriage are being cast as bigots in much the same that people who opposed racial integration were during the civil rights movements of the 1950′s and 1960′s.”

He is right to be concerned, since that is exactly how his group and those who support it are acting – as bigots.