November 7th, 2009
 

365 Gay: Opinion

Corvino: Beyond Tolerance

, columnist, 365gay.com

“Why do you need other people’s approval?”

The question came from an old (straight but gay-supportive) friend, as we sat over breakfast discussing progress in the gay-rights movement. He meant it sincerely.

“After all,” he continued, “if you like rap music, and I hate rap music, you don’t need my approval to pursue your tastes. Indeed, even if I think listening to rap music is a mind-numbing waste of time, so what? Live and let live.”

That’s true. But when it comes to gay rights, “live and let live” may no longer be enough.

The difference between what he describes and what I seek is sometimes described as that between tolerance and acceptance. Roughly, “tolerance” involves leaving people alone to live as they choose, even when you don’t approve, whereas acceptance involves somehow affirming their choices.

But even “acceptance” seems too weak here. Acceptance sounds close to acquiescence, which is scarcely distinguishable from tolerance. Gay people don’t want merely to be tolerated or accepted, we want to be embraced and encouraged—like everyone else in society.

The shift from tolerance to acceptance is apparent in the movement’s goals. When I came out in the late 1980’s, we were still fighting to make gay sex legal. As late as 2003, homosexual sodomy was criminal in over a dozen states. That’s when the U.S. Supreme Court finally declared sodomy laws unconstitutional in Lawrence v. Texas, overturning Bowers v. Hardwick. Suddenly, tolerance was legally mandated.

Then things changed—rapidly.

Just a few months later, the Supreme Judicial Court of Massachusetts declared the state’s ban on same-sex marriage unconstitutional. Gays and lesbian Americans began legally marrying the following year, and marriage became the predominant gay-rights issue in this country. Now California’s doing it (despite the threat of an amendment overturning that decision), and a handful of other states have civil unions or domestic partnerships.

Legally speaking, when it comes to marriage, “tolerance” may be enough. A marriage is legal whether people approve of it or not. Socially speaking, however, marriage requires more.

That’s because marriage is more than just a relationship between two individuals, recognized by the state. It’s also a relationship between those individuals and a larger community. We symbolize this fact by the witnesses at the wedding, who literally and figuratively stand behind the marrying couple. Marriage thrives when there’s a network of support in place to reinforce it.

Beyond that, marriage is a life-defining relationship that changes those within it. This is why the claim “I accept you but I don’t accept your homosexuality” rings so hollow. When my relationship is life-defining, rejecting it means rejecting me. “Tolerating” it is better, but not by much: nobody wants their life-defining relationship to be treated as one would treat a nuisance, much less “a mind-numbing waste of time.”

And so the rap-music analogy falters in at least two ways. First, listening to music doesn’t require the participation of others (beyond those who produced it), but marriage does. At least, it does in order to work best. Marriage is challenging, and it needs community support. Second, no one wants their life-defining relationships to be merely “tolerated.” Ideally, they should be celebrated and encouraged.

Obviously, not everyone will approve of everyone else’s marriage. You politely applaud at a wedding even if you think the groom is a jerk. But the ideal is still one where others’ participation is crucial. I’ve even been to wedding ceremonies—straight and gay—where the minister turns during the vows and asks, “Do you pledge to support Whosie and Whatsit in their marriage?” and the audience responds “We do!”

That’s one reason why same-sex marriage is so contentious. We are not simply asking people to “tolerate” something we do “in the privacy of our bedrooms.” We are asking them to support and encourage something we do publicly. We are asking them, in effect, to participate.

We should not be ashamed of asking for that. We’re social creatures, and it’s natural for us to seek others’ support. It’s especially natural for us to seek it from our friends and family. But insofar as we desire such support from people not ready to provide it, we need to make the case for it.

 

John Corvino is an author, speaker, and philosophy professor at Wayne State University in Detroit.

For over fifteen years he has traveled the country speaking on homosexuality and ethics. His writing has been featured in regional and national periodicals, at the online Independent Gay Forum (www.indegayforum.org), and in numerous scholarly anthologies. His column “The Gay Moralist” appears Fridays on 365gay.com.

For more about John Corvino, or to see clips from his “What’s Morally Wrong with Homosexuality?” DVD, visit www.johncorvino.com.


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  • jayson Said: August 15th, 2008 at 9:35 am
    • One of your better reasoned essays. I agree with the ‘false analogy’ in tolerating rap music. Of course, I also like Margaret Cho’s point: Its time for us all to stop listening to older, straight, white, men… period !

  • Ed Fink Said: August 15th, 2008 at 11:31 am
    • Thank you! I appreciate your teaching me how to frame what I believe but sometimes don’t know how to express. Ed

  • Rich Said: August 15th, 2008 at 12:12 pm
    • John, I’m afraid you are setting yourself up for huge disappointments in your life. In order to work, marriage only requires two people to celebrate and encourage it. It is also, to me, simply a contract, a means to access legal rights. You will always encounter those who reject you and your life. Tolerance from the majority is all that is required, i.e., live and let live.

      FYI, I’m a 62 yo in a 32+ year relationship and know of what I speak.

  • Phil Said: August 15th, 2008 at 12:39 pm
    • Rich, with all due respect, how can you honestly say that marriage ONLY requires two people to celebrate and encourage it. You would have to, as a couple, be totally isolated from the rest of the world. You don’t have family, friends, co-workers, or others who go beyond just tolerating your relationship? I agree that it’s the primary responsibility of the couple to make the relationship work, but support and true acceptance of the couple from people in their lives should never be underestimated.

  • Dave Said: August 15th, 2008 at 12:59 pm
    • Great article, John, but I feel that there’s another critical factor to consider when discussing this subject.

      It makes my head spin whenever I consider that, in a country as supposedly great as the United States, it is still considered acceptable to put the issue of whether a part of the population can have the same rights as everyone else up for a popular vote. But that’s the way it is. So in order for us to defeat anti-marriage equality amendments and have our legislatures pass laws enabling marriage equality, we need to have the approval, and not just the tolerance, of a majority of the people. I doubt that very many people who merely “tolerate” gay people and their relationships will vote favorably on these amendments.

      Thankfully, we have arrived there in a few places in the country, and we’re gaining ground (albeit unevenly) across the land.

  • Rich Said: August 15th, 2008 at 2:33 pm
    • Phil,

      Of course we have friends and family who love us and support us in our relationship. Perhaps it’s a generation gap but my understanding is that John expects everyone to accept and encourage gay relationships. Yes, there will be more acceptance as time goes on but there will always be those who only tolerate and those who disapprove of our relationships. Ultimately it is the couple who must deal with the rejection of or threats to their relationships from others.

      Best wishes…

  • Father Faggot Said: August 15th, 2008 at 4:47 pm
    • True.
      I don’t want to be tolerated; I want to be accepted, much as everyone else.

  • dennis Said: August 15th, 2008 at 6:05 pm
    • The problem with tolerance is that it’s fragile. It can vanish overnight with changing social conditions, as has happened in some countries where various ethnic or religious groups live side by side for decades, seeming to get along, and then suddenly try to exterminate each other.

      The same could happen to gays anywhere, especially if religiously motivated intolerance gains power, as in Iran. In fact, I think it can be argued that gays will never be truly safe in any society, until the society decides that its gays are an asset to be protected rather than a liability to be tolerated. But could that ever happen?

  • Tom Said: August 15th, 2008 at 6:24 pm
    • Was the question posed by Dr. Corvino’s colleage (i.e. “Why do you need other people’s approval?”) pertaining to gay marriage, or was it concerning gay individuals? If the question was concerning individual gay people then I do not believe that Dr. Corvino “response” was adequately espoused.

  • qjersey Said: August 16th, 2008 at 6:43 am
    • “we want to be embraced and encouraged—like everyone else in society”

      where do you live?

      Are blacks, latins, asians, native americans, people with disabilities, immigrants, ‘unattractive people,’ those who aren’t rich embraced?

      NO they are not. Although the American ideal is they we all would be, and the USA are FAR from that place.

      Yet another white man (and yes I am white too), who just can’t accept the loss of his white privilege because of his gayness. Ironic given that the writer lives in Detroit.

  • Janik Said: August 16th, 2008 at 10:06 am
    • Hi John, I usually love your pieces. Here, unfortunately, I feel you’re building our defense on a fragile standpoint. It sets marriage as the measuring yard of relationship worthiness, when in fact heterosexuals enjoy full acceptance by the mere fact of being heterosexual. I consider of the outmost importance, when fighting prejudice, to point out the privileges a dominant population has and to which it usually is blind too, because it is a driving force behind double standards. It is easy for heterosexuals to say «you don’t need approval» when EVERYTHING around them approves of whom they are. This element is constitutive of their self worth, but they DON’T SEE IT. We’re not talking about whether we should feel frustrated over people not tolerating our tastes in rap music or in cheeseburgers, we’re talking about a cornerstone of our individualities: love and sexuality. The mere fact that your friend equates same-sex love to a taste in rap music speeks volumes about his interiorized perception of homosexuality. He might be(somewhat)gay-supportive, but he hasn’t come to destination yet.

  • Greg Noone Said: August 16th, 2008 at 12:19 pm
    • And I would like to add one more comment to these very thoughtful musings: fuck tolerance!
      I could care less if str8s don’t like us, it is now the 21st century and it is high time that we demand full equality, not tolerance, not acceptance.
      Religious blabber has poisoned debate and replaced critical thinking with blind obedience to a mis-translated old book!
      Our nation (the USA) is great and wonderful because we have the freedom to say these things – we cannot allow the GOP and their twisted allies to begin a new Dark Age for this country.
      Register to vote; get involved; volunteer for charity; and never, ever donate money to those who despise us.
      Enough whining folks, we deserve better.

  • Kirby Pope Said: August 16th, 2008 at 7:22 pm
    • John, I can only support the comments by Ed Fink. You said it so well, as usual.
      “Thank you! I appreciate your teaching me how to frame what I believe but sometimes don’t know how to express.”

      Tolerance is great, but it’s not enough.

      Kirby

  • nikko Said: August 17th, 2008 at 2:42 am
    • Tolerance is a mild form of hatred.

  • JJ Said: August 18th, 2008 at 2:15 am
    • I think that I have become more radical in my old age. I would have been happy with being tolerated or accepted not that long ago.

      Now however, I find that being tolerated or accpeted is insulting. I am not a lower form of life. I am a human being entitled to the same rights as those who would patronise me. Unfortunately, I am a minority and therefore HAVE to suffer this sort of patronising.

 
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