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	<title>Comments on: Yes to gay marriage means no social services, Catholic Church warns</title>
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		<title>By: Tara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 15:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a lapse Catholic and a pissed off one, I have called the local priests and Bishop on this Crap.  And it is Crap.  I tell them how dare they try as a foreign embassor of the Vatican city try to influence the running of another country.  For those that do not know this, but Vatican City is a country with the pope as the Goverment leader therefore they and everyone who works for the church (priest, bishops, and cardinals) are embassadors of the Vatican.  That the US can deport them back to Vactican city.  Also with the appointment of the &quot;Rat&quot; (Pope) a former NAZI soldier to one of the most powerful positiion has made them Hypercirts.  Also the chruch&#039;s stance of hiding, abbiding and dismissing claims of priest and nuns that sexual, physically, and emotional abuse children is Criminal.  They are worst than the mob in this respect.  Let&#039;s not foreget the Chruch&#039;s lack of standing in human rights and just plain humanity during War II by allowing millions to be kill in the gas chambers. They refuse to talk to me after that but I have made my point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a lapse Catholic and a pissed off one, I have called the local priests and Bishop on this Crap.  And it is Crap.  I tell them how dare they try as a foreign embassor of the Vatican city try to influence the running of another country.  For those that do not know this, but Vatican City is a country with the pope as the Goverment leader therefore they and everyone who works for the church (priest, bishops, and cardinals) are embassadors of the Vatican.  That the US can deport them back to Vactican city.  Also with the appointment of the &#8220;Rat&#8221; (Pope) a former NAZI soldier to one of the most powerful positiion has made them Hypercirts.  Also the chruch&#8217;s stance of hiding, abbiding and dismissing claims of priest and nuns that sexual, physically, and emotional abuse children is Criminal.  They are worst than the mob in this respect.  Let&#8217;s not foreget the Chruch&#8217;s lack of standing in human rights and just plain humanity during War II by allowing millions to be kill in the gas chambers. They refuse to talk to me after that but I have made my point.</p>
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		<title>By: bobweekend</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a chance.  Someone in the area start a non-profit and take these over.  Then we can start converting all the homeless in DC to our team.  

In all seriousness, this looks like a business opportunity.  If I was not such a wimp, and lived in the area, I would jump on this.  Revenue almost $3 million per year, government contract, very little upfront investment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a chance.  Someone in the area start a non-profit and take these over.  Then we can start converting all the homeless in DC to our team.  </p>
<p>In all seriousness, this looks like a business opportunity.  If I was not such a wimp, and lived in the area, I would jump on this.  Revenue almost $3 million per year, government contract, very little upfront investment.</p>
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		<title>By: markin303</title>
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		<dc:creator>markin303</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 05:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can somebody please explain how the church has maintained their tax-exempt status?  This clearly violates IRS rules.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can somebody please explain how the church has maintained their tax-exempt status?  This clearly violates IRS rules.</p>
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		<title>By: HayDegha0917</title>
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		<dc:creator>HayDegha0917</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The more things change... In the Middle Ages, when the Pope could not get his way, he could (and several time did) put the whole country under ban, meaning that there were no Church services, no communion, no extreme unction, no baptisms--nada. For the people living at the time, this was tantamount to a little death. 700 years later, the Church continues to use the same un-Christian tactics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The more things change&#8230; In the Middle Ages, when the Pope could not get his way, he could (and several time did) put the whole country under ban, meaning that there were no Church services, no communion, no extreme unction, no baptisms&#8211;nada. For the people living at the time, this was tantamount to a little death. 700 years later, the Church continues to use the same un-Christian tactics.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandestin9</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandestin9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 02:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One final thought on the subject:

Sell The Vatican, Feed The World!

   - gotta love Sarah Silverman

(go ahead Google it, play it in any Catholic church, and watch the heads explode)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One final thought on the subject:</p>
<p>Sell The Vatican, Feed The World!</p>
<p>   &#8211; gotta love Sarah Silverman</p>
<p>(go ahead Google it, play it in any Catholic church, and watch the heads explode)</p>
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		<title>By: Sandestin9</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandestin9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 02:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Catholic Church, like most organized religions, was created and continues to exist for one and only one purpose, to control the lives of human beings.
 
Throughout history, the Catholic church has employed any measure necessary to continue and expand its control of believers and non-believers, including The Crusades, The Spanish Inquisition, The Salem Witch Trials, and the church’s missionary conversion and exploitation of all who believed in “evil religions.” Evil, of course, defined as anything non-Christian.  In more general terms the church also has a history of opposition to all science, strangulation of any independent thought, and then there’s the church’s misogynistic nature and oppression of women through use of the Eve myth.
 
However, the greatest and most long lasting method of control has been through the propagation and effective use of fear.  The church has always known that the greatest fear of any living organism is the fear of death. The “Great Unknown” which all must face quickly became populated with mythical creatures, Satan, ruling unimaginable places, Hell, for a very long period of time, eternity. The only way to avoid these terrors was to follow church created rules of total control which would then magically transport a person to a wonderful place where none of these things existed and the rewards were unlimited. Talk about Terrorism!  

Unfortunately for the Catholic church, very few people still believe in Satan and Hell; and as medical science (Damm all infernal knowledge!) has extended human life spans, even the fear of death is no longer as effective a method of control.  For the church to continue to exist and maintain control over its followers, it must have some other enemy to fear or evil to fight. Otherwise, why would you need the church at all? 

Fear of gays, lesbians, and trans-gendered individuals must truly be a poor substitute compared with death, Satan and eternal damnation. However, if the 2004 elections taught us anything it’s that, if you need to fire up the church and mobilize the faithful; all you need to do is mix up equal parts of G, L, B, and T then sprinkle a healthy dose of terrorist on top and you have yourself one hell of a Molotov cocktail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Catholic Church, like most organized religions, was created and continues to exist for one and only one purpose, to control the lives of human beings.</p>
<p>Throughout history, the Catholic church has employed any measure necessary to continue and expand its control of believers and non-believers, including The Crusades, The Spanish Inquisition, The Salem Witch Trials, and the church’s missionary conversion and exploitation of all who believed in “evil religions.” Evil, of course, defined as anything non-Christian.  In more general terms the church also has a history of opposition to all science, strangulation of any independent thought, and then there’s the church’s misogynistic nature and oppression of women through use of the Eve myth.</p>
<p>However, the greatest and most long lasting method of control has been through the propagation and effective use of fear.  The church has always known that the greatest fear of any living organism is the fear of death. The “Great Unknown” which all must face quickly became populated with mythical creatures, Satan, ruling unimaginable places, Hell, for a very long period of time, eternity. The only way to avoid these terrors was to follow church created rules of total control which would then magically transport a person to a wonderful place where none of these things existed and the rewards were unlimited. Talk about Terrorism!  </p>
<p>Unfortunately for the Catholic church, very few people still believe in Satan and Hell; and as medical science (Damm all infernal knowledge!) has extended human life spans, even the fear of death is no longer as effective a method of control.  For the church to continue to exist and maintain control over its followers, it must have some other enemy to fear or evil to fight. Otherwise, why would you need the church at all? </p>
<p>Fear of gays, lesbians, and trans-gendered individuals must truly be a poor substitute compared with death, Satan and eternal damnation. However, if the 2004 elections taught us anything it’s that, if you need to fire up the church and mobilize the faithful; all you need to do is mix up equal parts of G, L, B, and T then sprinkle a healthy dose of terrorist on top and you have yourself one hell of a Molotov cocktail.</p>
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		<title>By: GodalwaysGood</title>
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		<dc:creator>GodalwaysGood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 19:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Singalongsue, do you need the New Testament or are you just bento on your perverse decision to defy Jesus. You mean Catholicism right. Every person in prison and on death row fills that they have been persecuted. Gee, pedophiles serve their time, and feel that they are forever persecuted, but accoridng to you, theres is the kingdom of heaven.

If you read 1 John, you will see that Jesus was in the beginning, before the New Testament.

But let us go to the New Testament. 
Jesus told the aduletous woman, that you refer to, to GO AND SIN NO MORE. He judged her,forgave her, but most important, you told her that she could not do that sin anymore.

1 Timothy 1:10 - immoral persons, sodomites, kidnapers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine,   

Romans 1:26 - For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. Their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural,   

 Romans 1:27 - and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in their own persons the due penalty for their error.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Singalongsue, do you need the New Testament or are you just bento on your perverse decision to defy Jesus. You mean Catholicism right. Every person in prison and on death row fills that they have been persecuted. Gee, pedophiles serve their time, and feel that they are forever persecuted, but accoridng to you, theres is the kingdom of heaven.</p>
<p>If you read 1 John, you will see that Jesus was in the beginning, before the New Testament.</p>
<p>But let us go to the New Testament.<br />
Jesus told the aduletous woman, that you refer to, to GO AND SIN NO MORE. He judged her,forgave her, but most important, you told her that she could not do that sin anymore.</p>
<p>1 Timothy 1:10 &#8211; immoral persons, sodomites, kidnapers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine,   </p>
<p>Romans 1:26 &#8211; For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. Their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural,   </p>
<p> Romans 1:27 &#8211; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in their own persons the due penalty for their error.</p>
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		<title>By: StraightandProud</title>
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		<dc:creator>StraightandProud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 19:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The GLBT has violated the Separation of church and state, but gays don&#039;t seem to care. Gay protestors desecrated the Mormon church and attempted to violate church rights, but gays don&#039;t care.

Can we spell hypocrisy, G-A-Y.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The GLBT has violated the Separation of church and state, but gays don&#8217;t seem to care. Gay protestors desecrated the Mormon church and attempted to violate church rights, but gays don&#8217;t care.</p>
<p>Can we spell hypocrisy, G-A-Y.</p>
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		<title>By: StraightandProud</title>
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		<dc:creator>StraightandProud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 19:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Way to go Catholic church. The first stance was when they prohibited homosexuals from becoming priest, after they discovered that 95% of the Catholic priest molestations were homosexual and committed by homosexual priest.

Fred Stanley, try reading the Schempp v. Abington School District Supreme Court decision, before you open your mouth about the Separation of Church and State.

The Catholic church is following the defintion and decision of separation of church and state. Why don&#039;t you, and stay out of church affairs and keep your secular views out of the church. SEPARATION.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Way to go Catholic church. The first stance was when they prohibited homosexuals from becoming priest, after they discovered that 95% of the Catholic priest molestations were homosexual and committed by homosexual priest.</p>
<p>Fred Stanley, try reading the Schempp v. Abington School District Supreme Court decision, before you open your mouth about the Separation of Church and State.</p>
<p>The Catholic church is following the defintion and decision of separation of church and state. Why don&#8217;t you, and stay out of church affairs and keep your secular views out of the church. SEPARATION.</p>
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		<title>By: jamesp1</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How so like the Catholic Church to say, &quot;If we can&#039;t have everything our way we&#039;re going to take our toys and go home!&quot;  What great christians they are to target the poor and homeless as retribution!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How so like the Catholic Church to say, &#8220;If we can&#8217;t have everything our way we&#8217;re going to take our toys and go home!&#8221;  What great christians they are to target the poor and homeless as retribution!</p>
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