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	<title>Comments on: White House: Legislation key for gays in military</title>
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		<title>By: charley</title>
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		<dc:creator>charley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 12:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just like Bill Clinton, GLBT people are only important when you want their votes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just like Bill Clinton, GLBT people are only important when you want their votes.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarrellec</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarrellec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 08:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to Jordan:
Obama has NEVER said he would work for universal healthcare.
The best this Demolican has come up with is a plan to enact a law which would require every citizen to purchase health insurance.
Just what we all need.  A law forcing those that can least afford to lose more of their money to give it to those millionaire/billionaires who least need it.
Obama&#039;s rationalization is that by forcing everyone to carry health insurance, that this would somehow drive down healthcare costs.
The simplest answer is he&#039;s just as in the pocket of the financial/insurance institutions of this country as every other politician.
Surprise!
His claim against the enacting of universal healthcare is that it is in conflict with a &quot;legacy&quot; of having the working class and the working poor class shift their combined wealth to the rich in exchange for having claims and procedures and, in some instances, emergency care denied.
Has anyone else noticed that he has also climbed onto Bush/Cheney&#039;s bandwagon regarding torture having been committed only by a few &quot;bad apples&quot; lowly enlisted personell?
Wake up folks!
He is protecting war criminals (also in violation of Geneva Convention War Crimes); war profiteers; continuing to shift wealth to the very rich (honoring &quot;retention contracts&quot; for millionaires while breaking contracts for union workers); refusing to prosecute wealthy and/or political criminals.
Here&#039;s your big change folks!
Don&#039;t feel bad if you&#039;ve missed any of these &quot;changes&quot;.  They&#039;ve been really really subtle.  So subtle, in fact, one could say they don&#039;t exist!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to Jordan:<br />
Obama has NEVER said he would work for universal healthcare.<br />
The best this Demolican has come up with is a plan to enact a law which would require every citizen to purchase health insurance.<br />
Just what we all need.  A law forcing those that can least afford to lose more of their money to give it to those millionaire/billionaires who least need it.<br />
Obama&#8217;s rationalization is that by forcing everyone to carry health insurance, that this would somehow drive down healthcare costs.<br />
The simplest answer is he&#8217;s just as in the pocket of the financial/insurance institutions of this country as every other politician.<br />
Surprise!<br />
His claim against the enacting of universal healthcare is that it is in conflict with a &#8220;legacy&#8221; of having the working class and the working poor class shift their combined wealth to the rich in exchange for having claims and procedures and, in some instances, emergency care denied.<br />
Has anyone else noticed that he has also climbed onto Bush/Cheney&#8217;s bandwagon regarding torture having been committed only by a few &#8220;bad apples&#8221; lowly enlisted personell?<br />
Wake up folks!<br />
He is protecting war criminals (also in violation of Geneva Convention War Crimes); war profiteers; continuing to shift wealth to the very rich (honoring &#8220;retention contracts&#8221; for millionaires while breaking contracts for union workers); refusing to prosecute wealthy and/or political criminals.<br />
Here&#8217;s your big change folks!<br />
Don&#8217;t feel bad if you&#8217;ve missed any of these &#8220;changes&#8221;.  They&#8217;ve been really really subtle.  So subtle, in fact, one could say they don&#8217;t exist!</p>
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		<title>By: USAF Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/news/white-house-legislation-key-for-gays-in-military/comment-page-3/#comment-56805</link>
		<dc:creator>USAF Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 04:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Obama really beleives that the law is not in the nations best interest then he would issue an executive order to halt all of the pending discharges, and he would actually do somethnig to accomplish one of his campain promises.  I am beginning to wonder why I voted for him?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Obama really beleives that the law is not in the nations best interest then he would issue an executive order to halt all of the pending discharges, and he would actually do somethnig to accomplish one of his campain promises.  I am beginning to wonder why I voted for him?</p>
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		<title>By: Jordan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 03:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. I must say I feel there is much undue animosity towards Obama here and if I may add some unrealistic notions.  Don&#039;t get me wrong, repleaing this act is the MORAL thing to do and should be done asap but did we truly think by electing Obama he was going to don a Dorothy costume and click his heels three times to repeal DADT (wouldn&#039;t that be great though!)? Yes he was the candidate of &#039;change&#039; but have we looked around at our countries political climate recently or in the past for that matter?  I imagine that following Bushie would make it difficult to change anything.  Anyone following him is really just mopping up first.  Which is why the funding for many LGBT organizations was the first &#039;change&#039; Obama made for us, the GLBT constituents.  Priorities people! and effective leaders know how to manage them well.  No offense then to all but he has bigger fish to fry now.  Plus, again with how this country works; judicial, excutive, legislative branches.  Rarely are civil rights changes done overnight by the executive branch, it&#039;s the courts or legislative that make real changes in people.  Truman, who I have seen mentioned a few times, had the benefit if you would of looking at a group of segrated men who had valiantly fought in WWII and who HE needed to help in our newest war the Cold War and in particular the Korean front.  Obama&#039;s situation is much more unique and complicated in that, albeit unfortunate, gays and lesbians are not segrate but are closetly integrated.  That makes it more difficult politically because there is no ONE face to it all.  With that I greatly commend the brave men and women of the armed forces who have recently come out and put a face to this issue.  Media and PR. Those are the mediums this issues needs so that we keep it in his face and the American peoples.  Don&#039;t expect anything over night though. I want Obama relected cus I aint dealing with no more close minded Rep. BS. Obama&#039;s great change thus far is reuniting the democrats and making those fools that support Limbaugh the slim minority of this country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. I must say I feel there is much undue animosity towards Obama here and if I may add some unrealistic notions.  Don&#8217;t get me wrong, repleaing this act is the MORAL thing to do and should be done asap but did we truly think by electing Obama he was going to don a Dorothy costume and click his heels three times to repeal DADT (wouldn&#8217;t that be great though!)? Yes he was the candidate of &#8216;change&#8217; but have we looked around at our countries political climate recently or in the past for that matter?  I imagine that following Bushie would make it difficult to change anything.  Anyone following him is really just mopping up first.  Which is why the funding for many LGBT organizations was the first &#8216;change&#8217; Obama made for us, the GLBT constituents.  Priorities people! and effective leaders know how to manage them well.  No offense then to all but he has bigger fish to fry now.  Plus, again with how this country works; judicial, excutive, legislative branches.  Rarely are civil rights changes done overnight by the executive branch, it&#8217;s the courts or legislative that make real changes in people.  Truman, who I have seen mentioned a few times, had the benefit if you would of looking at a group of segrated men who had valiantly fought in WWII and who HE needed to help in our newest war the Cold War and in particular the Korean front.  Obama&#8217;s situation is much more unique and complicated in that, albeit unfortunate, gays and lesbians are not segrate but are closetly integrated.  That makes it more difficult politically because there is no ONE face to it all.  With that I greatly commend the brave men and women of the armed forces who have recently come out and put a face to this issue.  Media and PR. Those are the mediums this issues needs so that we keep it in his face and the American peoples.  Don&#8217;t expect anything over night though. I want Obama relected cus I aint dealing with no more close minded Rep. BS. Obama&#8217;s great change thus far is reuniting the democrats and making those fools that support Limbaugh the slim minority of this country.</p>
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		<title>By: LOrion</title>
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		<dc:creator>LOrion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 03:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>D**** why didn&#039;t Michelle run? Shes the one with b** in the family.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>D**** why didn&#8217;t Michelle run? Shes the one with b** in the family.</p>
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		<title>By: LOrion</title>
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		<dc:creator>LOrion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 03:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Jonatha Turley said on Rachel Maddow tonight about how this &#039;constututional lawyer&#039; has become a spineless poll watcher.&#039;....OBAMA may have pulled the biggest BAIT and SWITCH in history... He is morphing into his predecessor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Jonatha Turley said on Rachel Maddow tonight about how this &#8216;constututional lawyer&#8217; has become a spineless poll watcher.&#8217;&#8230;.OBAMA may have pulled the biggest BAIT and SWITCH in history&#8230; He is morphing into his predecessor.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 03:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those who claim immediate action by Obama to get rid of legal military bigotry will damage his approval rating, the measure of a statesman is doing what is RIGHT, NOT what appeals to the enemies of equal rights for all.  But, then, he got the minority votes and is now in office, so I guess its &quot;why bother&quot;?  A good thing Lyndon Johnson and Harry Truman didn&#039;t think that way, or the military would still be segregated and folks being shoved to the back of the bus!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those who claim immediate action by Obama to get rid of legal military bigotry will damage his approval rating, the measure of a statesman is doing what is RIGHT, NOT what appeals to the enemies of equal rights for all.  But, then, he got the minority votes and is now in office, so I guess its &#8220;why bother&#8221;?  A good thing Lyndon Johnson and Harry Truman didn&#8217;t think that way, or the military would still be segregated and folks being shoved to the back of the bus!</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 02:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Too bad Obama will not follow in the footsteps of Truman, who issued Executive Order 9981, requiring the desegregation of the armed forced.&quot;  
Obama does not have the guts or the balls to do what is right, he is a coward and does not believe in equality. 
COWARD, COWARD, COWARD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Too bad Obama will not follow in the footsteps of Truman, who issued Executive Order 9981, requiring the desegregation of the armed forced.&#8221;<br />
Obama does not have the guts or the balls to do what is right, he is a coward and does not believe in equality.<br />
COWARD, COWARD, COWARD.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 22:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Supporting the right for gays &amp; lesbians to serve openly in the military does not mean uncritical support for the military -- they are 2 different issues. I decided against a career in the military for myself based on my personal values and beliefs, but I still support the right for other people to make a different decision for themselves. More importantly, it goes to the heart of foundational principles such as equal treatment under the law, and whether our government will continue to institutionalize anti-gay bigotry and discrimination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Supporting the right for gays &amp; lesbians to serve openly in the military does not mean uncritical support for the military &#8212; they are 2 different issues. I decided against a career in the military for myself based on my personal values and beliefs, but I still support the right for other people to make a different decision for themselves. More importantly, it goes to the heart of foundational principles such as equal treatment under the law, and whether our government will continue to institutionalize anti-gay bigotry and discrimination.</p>
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		<title>By: randyL</title>
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		<dc:creator>randyL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 21:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love that the anti-gay forces always use ...even the pres. doesn&#039;t think marriage should be between m/m or f/f...now they can add...even the pres. doesn&#039;t care about gays in the military or he would stop the DADT now!  This man has no spine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love that the anti-gay forces always use &#8230;even the pres. doesn&#8217;t think marriage should be between m/m or f/f&#8230;now they can add&#8230;even the pres. doesn&#8217;t care about gays in the military or he would stop the DADT now!  This man has no spine.</p>
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