Comments on: Vigils set for eve of Prop 8 arguments

By: OttO

OttO — Sun, 01 Mar 2009 05:55:33 +0000

“they had to clean up the mess they made in a half a decade of judicially recognized discrimination.”

Oops, should read “in a half a century…”

By: OttO

OttO — Sun, 01 Mar 2009 05:41:11 +0000

otter – What was the purpose of Brown v. Board? It was to overturn 50 years of previous court rulings endorsing discrimination in education! Which gets back to my point – you can’t rely on the courts to do the right thing. The Supreme Court didn’t come in like heroes and clean up the mess made by legislation – they had to clean up the mess they made in a half a decade of judicially recognized discrimination.

Brown v. Board didn’t establish civil rights. If it did, we wouldn’t have had the civil rights marches and the Civil Rights Act which passed TEN YEARS after B v. B.

Discrimination against race is a direct violation of the Constitution. Discrimination against choices is a fundamental function of society and government.

By: otter b

otter b — Sun, 01 Mar 2009 05:13:48 +0000

OttO,
I am no historian, but I seem to remember that Brown v. Board of Education was a Supreme Court case that rendered a verdict which overturned the policy of “separate but equal”. SO the high court played a pivotal role in shifting the culture.

We HAVE been thrown to the dogs, left to fight our battle state by state, year after year, lie after lie. Consider what a horrible patchwork of laws black folks would have to navigate today if each state could have determined a unique position on civil rights and accommodations one by one back in the 60’s. Mind Bending isn’t it?
Democracy is failing us…and gutting it’s own principles in the process.

I’ve had enough smarmy, double talking, back stabbing politicians using me as a bargaining chip with the UNHOLY ROLLERS.

By: OttO

OttO — Sun, 01 Mar 2009 04:38:48 +0000

RICK N NICK – You need to bone up on your history. Majorities supported civil rights. The Civil Rights Act was passed by Congress, it was NOT decided by the courts. The courts were responsible for notorious for upholding discrimination, for great judicial interpretations like Dred Scott. Don’t put so much faith in courts – we have virtually no say or input in what they decide and when they are wrong, it’s devastating.

Morgan – I’m surprised to learn that the concept of “will of the people” is a “far radical right wing” concept. Opposing the will of the people isn’t radical? If something is the will of the people, regardless of whether it’s right or wrong, it’s hardly radical.

By: Morgan

Morgan — Sun, 01 Mar 2009 02:40:29 +0000

The phrase “will of the people” is often repeated by the far radical right wing to defend Prop H8 and other ugly antigay lawa, amendments, etc that ill-informed voters get to vote on thus stripping away civil rights via ballot box.

By: yesenia

yesenia — Sun, 01 Mar 2009 01:50:45 +0000

HUGE PROP 8 PROTEST IN WEST HOLLYWOOD ON THE EVE OF JUSTICE(MARCH 4TH, 2009). ON SANTA MONICA AND SAN VICENTE AT 6 PM!!!

By: Jason21Tx

Jason21Tx — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 06:59:22 +0000

The function of the courts is to protect the minorities from the tyranny of the majority.

Women, blacks, Jews, yes Catholics, Mormons and now gays. And the real shame is how some of these groups have taken their lessons from their enemies of their past.

If you belong to one of these churches, you should be picketing it, and damn well burning your bibles in front of it.

By: Darik

Darik — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 02:07:38 +0000

Absolutely Rick N Nick . It doesn’t matter how many there are: 10, 1000 or 52% these bullies, these scaredy cats, lynched us at the polls! This is simply … about … EQUALITY ….its not a yes or no question!
Equality should never be decided by a majority, it should JUST BE Equality for ALL Human Beings !!

By: RICK N NICK

RICK N NICK — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 00:10:56 +0000

THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE WOULD HAVE NEVER VOTED FOR CIVIL RIGHTS FOR BLACKS IF IT WERE LEFT UP TO THEM !! THAT IS WHY THE COURTS HAD TO DECIDE. ! WE WERE THROWN OUT TO THE WOLVES,,,,,,,,,, SHOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED !!!!