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	<title>Comments on: Vatican: &#8216;Homosexual behavior&#8217; in decline</title>
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		<title>By: Chris Sullivan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Sullivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 20:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The catholic church is what is &quot;in decline&quot; - henceforth their ignorant and hateful actions. A &quot;cult&quot; if ever there was one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The catholic church is what is &#8220;in decline&#8221; &#8211; henceforth their ignorant and hateful actions. A &#8220;cult&#8221; if ever there was one.</p>
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		<title>By: Esty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Esty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 19:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is actually sad. How can they be soooo hateful? Makes me want to break off from the Catholic church even more, and become a protestant instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is actually sad. How can they be soooo hateful? Makes me want to break off from the Catholic church even more, and become a protestant instead.</p>
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		<title>By: Gene</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/news/vatican-homosexual-behavior-in-decline/comment-page-3/#comment-39635</link>
		<dc:creator>Gene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 06:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can’t believe that so many well-educated, intelligent people who gather in this forum never once bother to question the veracity of the story. 

Church officials (with the support of public opinion) identify homosexuality in the priesthood as a bad thing (when their own statistics show between 20%-40% of clergy are gay or bi) and decide to clean it up.  They form a committee and tell them to go to work.  Four years later the committee comes back and reports that, like magic, they have fixed the problem. Now we can get the media off our backs and move back into our ecclesial closets.

Wake up, people. It’s a lie!  There is virtually no change in homosexuality in seminaries. The whole thing is a ruse to divert attention from the fact that the sex abuse crisis in the church is mostly the making of the poor management and constant lying of the bishops themselves. Guess what, these same bishops, who lied and cheated and pushed molesting priests from one parish to another for decades without offering either the priest or the victim the help they needed, are now in charge of fixing the problem they caused. Do you think they are going to finally admit that they failed? Or that they are attacking the wrong cause of the problem?

I was catholic for 45 years and have a brother who is a priest. One priest/psychologist I know (not my brother) told me how the committee operated. They tried to classify homosexual tendencies as “latent,” “transitional,” or “deep-seated.” The latent and transitional guys were given a pass but are being “supervised.” This priest told me that the committee magically “cured” the few deep-seated homos they found and reclassified them as transitional so they could report another rousing success.

And the bishops win another round of “screw the world, we’ll do what we want.” Join us next week as we decide to start persecuting the Jews again.  http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28642137/

The main reasons for the shortfall in vocations are the shrinking size of American families and diminishing reliance on the church as a social support. The old Irish addage of &quot;and one for God&quot; doesn&#039;t hold up in one or two child familes. And children have less need to look at the priesthood as good steady work.

That leaves only two reasons to go into the seminary: an authentic calling to the priesthood, and the same old big welcoming closet the church has always been.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can’t believe that so many well-educated, intelligent people who gather in this forum never once bother to question the veracity of the story. </p>
<p>Church officials (with the support of public opinion) identify homosexuality in the priesthood as a bad thing (when their own statistics show between 20%-40% of clergy are gay or bi) and decide to clean it up.  They form a committee and tell them to go to work.  Four years later the committee comes back and reports that, like magic, they have fixed the problem. Now we can get the media off our backs and move back into our ecclesial closets.</p>
<p>Wake up, people. It’s a lie!  There is virtually no change in homosexuality in seminaries. The whole thing is a ruse to divert attention from the fact that the sex abuse crisis in the church is mostly the making of the poor management and constant lying of the bishops themselves. Guess what, these same bishops, who lied and cheated and pushed molesting priests from one parish to another for decades without offering either the priest or the victim the help they needed, are now in charge of fixing the problem they caused. Do you think they are going to finally admit that they failed? Or that they are attacking the wrong cause of the problem?</p>
<p>I was catholic for 45 years and have a brother who is a priest. One priest/psychologist I know (not my brother) told me how the committee operated. They tried to classify homosexual tendencies as “latent,” “transitional,” or “deep-seated.” The latent and transitional guys were given a pass but are being “supervised.” This priest told me that the committee magically “cured” the few deep-seated homos they found and reclassified them as transitional so they could report another rousing success.</p>
<p>And the bishops win another round of “screw the world, we’ll do what we want.” Join us next week as we decide to start persecuting the Jews again.  <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28642137/" rel="nofollow">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28642137/</a></p>
<p>The main reasons for the shortfall in vocations are the shrinking size of American families and diminishing reliance on the church as a social support. The old Irish addage of &#8220;and one for God&#8221; doesn&#8217;t hold up in one or two child familes. And children have less need to look at the priesthood as good steady work.</p>
<p>That leaves only two reasons to go into the seminary: an authentic calling to the priesthood, and the same old big welcoming closet the church has always been.</p>
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		<title>By: SteveMD2</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/news/vatican-homosexual-behavior-in-decline/comment-page-3/#comment-39621</link>
		<dc:creator>SteveMD2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 04:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I might say - sorry I forgot - bravo that few new priests are coming into the church.   Way back when, the inquisition centered its horrors on priests and other clergy who wanted to reform the church.  And there are lots of good priests who secretly want to help gay people earn the respect and dignity they deserve, but are totally frustrated by an absolutist hierarchy.  

NO priests, no church.   Glory to God.  He will be pleased.  He is prob running out of space in his re-education camp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I might say &#8211; sorry I forgot &#8211; bravo that few new priests are coming into the church.   Way back when, the inquisition centered its horrors on priests and other clergy who wanted to reform the church.  And there are lots of good priests who secretly want to help gay people earn the respect and dignity they deserve, but are totally frustrated by an absolutist hierarchy.  </p>
<p>NO priests, no church.   Glory to God.  He will be pleased.  He is prob running out of space in his re-education camp.</p>
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		<title>By: SteveMD2</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/news/vatican-homosexual-behavior-in-decline/comment-page-3/#comment-39620</link>
		<dc:creator>SteveMD2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 04:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They catholic church is 

Absolutists who think they are God, or His voice.  Yet there history shows that they are, primarily in the upper heirarchy, the very incarnation of Satan himself.  The current pope also learned  lot, growing up as a youth of age 4 to 17 in nazi germany.

They always have to have someone to hate.  Jews for nearly 2000 years.  Now it is the Gays.

The popes recent tying together of gays and ecology is nothing but a clever way of saying to the believers that gays are pollution  within society.  And so many people are now realizing what a poisonous chemical mess we have created. Of course, the pope wants gays seen in the same light - poison.

Hopefully this monstrosity of HYPOCRISY in the name of God will die out.  But society doesn&#039;t have a thousand years more to wait.

 And we could take a page from the Islamic street warriors who have been known to burn their enemies flags in the street- If you are gay, or have gay friends, or realize what this church is, there should be mass bible burnings in front of these churches.   We may well be reaching a tipping point where the catholic youth  - I know quite a few - ahve no use for this anachronism from the darks ages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They catholic church is </p>
<p>Absolutists who think they are God, or His voice.  Yet there history shows that they are, primarily in the upper heirarchy, the very incarnation of Satan himself.  The current pope also learned  lot, growing up as a youth of age 4 to 17 in nazi germany.</p>
<p>They always have to have someone to hate.  Jews for nearly 2000 years.  Now it is the Gays.</p>
<p>The popes recent tying together of gays and ecology is nothing but a clever way of saying to the believers that gays are pollution  within society.  And so many people are now realizing what a poisonous chemical mess we have created. Of course, the pope wants gays seen in the same light &#8211; poison.</p>
<p>Hopefully this monstrosity of HYPOCRISY in the name of God will die out.  But society doesn&#8217;t have a thousand years more to wait.</p>
<p> And we could take a page from the Islamic street warriors who have been known to burn their enemies flags in the street- If you are gay, or have gay friends, or realize what this church is, there should be mass bible burnings in front of these churches.   We may well be reaching a tipping point where the catholic youth  &#8211; I know quite a few &#8211; ahve no use for this anachronism from the darks ages.</p>
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		<title>By: Trace</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/news/vatican-homosexual-behavior-in-decline/comment-page-3/#comment-39503</link>
		<dc:creator>Trace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 11:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason, you obviously do not know what you&#039;re speaking of.  I worked for quite some time as a Children&#039;s Services Social Worker.  The vast majority of those that sexually abuse children self identify as heterosexual.  You will find that every piece of credible science will back that up, as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason, you obviously do not know what you&#8217;re speaking of.  I worked for quite some time as a Children&#8217;s Services Social Worker.  The vast majority of those that sexually abuse children self identify as heterosexual.  You will find that every piece of credible science will back that up, as well.</p>
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		<title>By: cm</title>
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		<dc:creator>cm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 09:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason, &quot;If the gays are no more likely to molest children, then why are the vast majority of the church abuse cases about boys?&quot;   &lt;---Umm, because the Catholic church doesn&#039;t allow women to hold leadership positions?   My god man.  Honestly, that has to be the dumbest argument I have ever heard.

Official FBI statistics from the 1990&#039;s said 90% of molesters were heterosexual in orientation even those who molested same sex.  10% were gay.  As many studies will tell you gays are 10% of the population, and no more or less likely to molest.. makes sense.

Jason - If gays = molestation, then where are the rampant stories of lesbian molestation of girls by women?  cough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason, &#8220;If the gays are no more likely to molest children, then why are the vast majority of the church abuse cases about boys?&#8221;   &lt;&#8212;Umm, because the Catholic church doesn&#8217;t allow women to hold leadership positions?   My god man.  Honestly, that has to be the dumbest argument I have ever heard.</p>
<p>Official FBI statistics from the 1990&#8242;s said 90% of molesters were heterosexual in orientation even those who molested same sex.  10% were gay.  As many studies will tell you gays are 10% of the population, and no more or less likely to molest.. makes sense.</p>
<p>Jason &#8211; If gays = molestation, then where are the rampant stories of lesbian molestation of girls by women?  cough.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/news/vatican-homosexual-behavior-in-decline/comment-page-3/#comment-39500</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 08:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the gays are no more likely to molest children, then why are the vast majority of the church abuse cases about boys? The reality is, homosexuality is a gateway perversion. Once an individual becomes inured to that, he seeks a stronger perversion. The priest abuse scandal is a text book example of this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the gays are no more likely to molest children, then why are the vast majority of the church abuse cases about boys? The reality is, homosexuality is a gateway perversion. Once an individual becomes inured to that, he seeks a stronger perversion. The priest abuse scandal is a text book example of this.</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/news/vatican-homosexual-behavior-in-decline/comment-page-3/#comment-39498</link>
		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 07:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Evidently the Pope did learn something as a Hitler Youth...</description>
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		<title>By: Ross</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/news/vatican-homosexual-behavior-in-decline/comment-page-3/#comment-39495</link>
		<dc:creator>Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 06:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>13 years of Catholicism and it just mad me a hardened atheist. However, I am giving the Pastafarian faith a solid look see.</description>
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