Dave W – no we do not have threesomes. I am very happy with my life and I have 3 happy children. No, I don’t have to tell others how to live. Everyone has their own free agency. There is a difference between tolerance and forcing acceptance. You are trying to force the rest of society to accept same sex marriage. This means it will be taught in our schools. It also means that relgious adoption agencies such as Catholic charities will be sued if they don’t adopt to a same sex couple even though the church views it as immoral. It will become a crime to not accept gay marriage. We are tolerant of your civil unions.
Marriage is being taught in California schools. I personally feel that marriage and sex education should be up to the parents. I don’t think the schools have any business teaching my kids anything about marriage.

Part of the reason that the USA is a great country is that we have the freedom of religion. Most religions view homosexuality as a sin. We don’t want to be forced to perform marriages in our churches if it is against our beliefs.

I am in perfect agreement with one thing, we do disagree on the whole issue.

I don’t want to be forced to accept your lifestyle. Good for you having fun with you man.

As for allowing dominion over my body I have no idea what you are talking about. My husband and I have a very healthy relationship. We are also highly educated and are involved in our community in San Diego. We contribute a lot to our community as I’m sure you do as well.

I just wanted you all to know that before you label my religion, you should really do some of your own research, not just listen to hearsay.

Its obvious that we don’t agree on gay sex being a sin. Of course you wouldn’t agree with me on that! If I’m sinning, I try to tell myself that its really just a little thing which is why I renew my baptismal covenants each week at church. That is something you don’t understand because you call God an imaginary friend.

I was celibate until I got married and if I were still single, I’d still be celibate because its something I believe. Many gays and lesbians in our church are celibate, the ones that share the same beliefs as I do. I didn’t mean to tell you that YOU have to live a life of celibacy. You can do what you want but when you force it on those of us who have always believed it unacceptable – that is wrong.

Do it in private, hold hands in public, kiss whatever but I don’t really want to know what happens in the bedroom.
I don’t like to see heterosexual couples doing too much of the PDA’s either.

I was just trying to explain to you our side of the story. I understand your side. People like me are being labeled as bigots. Have you ever thought that you are being a bigot? Judging us when you don’t even know anything about is? Thats why I asked you to go to your website and see what we really believe. Not only that but what do you say about places like Compton? How about the Evangelical and Catholic churches who also raised as much money? what do you think of them?

Can you please explain how a church has any directive over my life? Why would I care what your church wants? That’s the problem with you people. You can’t live your life and be happy. (as sick as it is…something about your marriage being between you, your husband, and his imaginary friend???do you have threesomes????) You have to tell others how to live theirs? Where does this hubris come from?

I say you are brainwashed to be a bigot, but do you hear me saying leave the church, or stop allowing dominion over your body (what a sick concept).

Live you sad pathetic life. Have fun, we don’t care. Why aren’t you capable of that and we are? We simply do not care what you do, why does it bother you so much.

Brainwashed.

Before you call us ignorant, listen to your own ignorance. I’m sorry for your gay “friends” and relatives. You obviously have little respect for them.

You are most uncivil I might add. We should be happy with “our” civil unions..how condescending.

And you say this is really about the word marriage. YES IT IS. Marriage is a CIVIL not religious word. You go to whatever web site you choose and YOU read the history. I’m not going to your cult’s hate site. We DO NOT get the rights and priveleges of marriage with civil unions, the laws specifically say “marriage”.

As a mormon bigot, if we try to enact TWELVE HUNDRED new laws to change the word marriage to civil unions, am I to believe from your post that you would welcome that?

A religious nut bag recently asked me what I celebrate at Thanksgiving. You nuts think you can take our holidays too! (its not religious, I told him)

And I don’t want your church or you to love me! and I certainly don’t care if you do but hate the “sin”. Your definition of sin is wrong.

Sin is an act against the peaceful coexistence of all the animals on this planet. Polluting is a sin, killing is a sin, animal abuse is a sin. Two men having sex is SEX not sin.

And please don’t get me going on your missionaries. I see them every time I walk through your airport in salt lake. What a pathetic bunch they are. And they always “find” me with their eyes. I can see the look “look at that little heathen over there”. You people judge too much. You send out your evil “missionaries” to brainwash people and grow your business/church. I just love walking by them and commenting on the bunch of uneducated brain dead bigots to my HUSBAND.

Yes, we do get it. You are brainwashed. You sad little shriveled mind is so useless all it can do is make you spit out this church rhetoric and tell you to shut up and lie on your back while your precious man rules lord over you.

How pathetic you are. You say we are ignorant????? Wow. Religious belief IS THE DEFINITION of ignorance. I don’t think I can even do this to Plato but here goes: you are ignorant of your ignorance! You spout out these comments like they are true, you are proud of your missionaries being celibate..that is UNHEALTHY.

Watch out, here comes that Jones nut in a spaceship…better spit out some hate or he’ll smite you down.

Oh, ooops…you’re a woman. They don’t tell you anything about the real beliefs of your church. Sorry to have scared you.

I am an active mormon and made a covenant in a temple with my husband. My marriage is sacred to me, my husband and to God. I have gay friends and I love them. They are good people and not filled with hate. Most of them respect that a marriage is between a man and a woman and are happy with having a domestic partnership. I also have a gay relative. He is a wonderful person and his partner is as well.

If you look around in the places that you work and live, you will probably find that there are lots of Mormons. All that the church expects is to lead a celibate life if you are a gay or lesbian. The missionaries are all celibate as well as those who are not married (straight as well as homosexual). Please learn more about my church before you slam it. Also, how do you explain areas like Compton and East L.A. with the high numbers of people who voted yes on 8? In Compton it was 80%! The city of Compton is definately not 80% Mormon. Maybe you should look at the real issue. We want to keep marriage between a man and a woman as it has been for thousands of years. We are fine with you having you domestic partnerships and civil unions. This really is just about the word marriage. You already get the rights as partners. Why don’t you figure out what you’d like to be called instead of married? I’m sure you could coin your own phrase and then have that taken to a ballot.

I also think its hilarious that a previous poster wants to boycott starbucks because you think its packaged in Utah. Mormons don’t drink coffe. Believe it or not, half of the population is not Mormon and there are gays and lesbians who do live there.