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	<title>Comments on: Third party challenges in NJ, NY are warning sign</title>
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		<title>By: Drewski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drewski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 04:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw in today&#039;s (Cleveland) Plain Dealer that Scozzafava endorsed the Dem candidate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw in today&#8217;s (Cleveland) Plain Dealer that Scozzafava endorsed the Dem candidate.</p>
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		<title>By: Kari</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only people Hoffman is a warning sign to is the GOP.

Scozzafava&#039;s withdrawl (and subsequent endorsement of Owens) is a strategic disaster for the GOP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only people Hoffman is a warning sign to is the GOP.</p>
<p>Scozzafava&#8217;s withdrawl (and subsequent endorsement of Owens) is a strategic disaster for the GOP.</p>
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		<title>By: Drewski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drewski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The lesson on third parties?  In US politics, they have consistently been a gesture to vent intense displeasure at the duopoly.  George Wallace?  John Anderson?  Pat Buchanan?  Ross Perot?  Ralph Nader?  All of these have run on some kind of populist theme.  The problem right now is that the GOP has played populism so well that it landed them all the wingnuts, while the Dems were left to spend all day--EVERY day--staring in a mirror and admiring themselves.  Americans have a long habit of reaching for something that sounds good because it sounds simple (no special interests, flat tax), yet realization of their Huey-Long-style ambition still relies on immense government spending to coddle the sullen middle- and lower-middle classes.  The populist inclination to thinly-veiled hostility toward &quot;others&quot; creates a real problem when many parts of this country now have a large percentage of foreign-born residents.

The GOP worked hard to create this populist monster (&quot;Joe&quot; the Plumber?), and it&#039;s already blowing up on them (note the race in New York).  Corzine in Jersey?  Much of the anger revolves around property taxes.  Look at a map of almost any county in North Jersey; all those little towns are each likely to have their own courts, their own libraries, their own schools, their own police.  The biggest thing they share is probably welfare and transit.  Corzine has tried to push consolidation of some of these services, but most people don&#039;t want to give up the fantasy of local control (this is a growing issue from the Northeast and into the Great Lakes).  Do you want more for your tax dollar by giving up local control, or do you want local control at the cost of losing services?  None of the candidates in Jersey has really presented a viable option, because the viable option is to consolidate services and that&#039;s politically unpopular.

This may turn into the &quot;be careful what you wish for&quot; election.  The American people--espeically seniors and the suburban middle class--are unused to politicians telling them no.  They may vote with their spleens, and if they do, it&#039;ll only generate more social tension.  There&#039;s too much &quot;I want&quot; and far too little &quot;how do we?&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The lesson on third parties?  In US politics, they have consistently been a gesture to vent intense displeasure at the duopoly.  George Wallace?  John Anderson?  Pat Buchanan?  Ross Perot?  Ralph Nader?  All of these have run on some kind of populist theme.  The problem right now is that the GOP has played populism so well that it landed them all the wingnuts, while the Dems were left to spend all day&#8211;EVERY day&#8211;staring in a mirror and admiring themselves.  Americans have a long habit of reaching for something that sounds good because it sounds simple (no special interests, flat tax), yet realization of their Huey-Long-style ambition still relies on immense government spending to coddle the sullen middle- and lower-middle classes.  The populist inclination to thinly-veiled hostility toward &#8220;others&#8221; creates a real problem when many parts of this country now have a large percentage of foreign-born residents.</p>
<p>The GOP worked hard to create this populist monster (&#8220;Joe&#8221; the Plumber?), and it&#8217;s already blowing up on them (note the race in New York).  Corzine in Jersey?  Much of the anger revolves around property taxes.  Look at a map of almost any county in North Jersey; all those little towns are each likely to have their own courts, their own libraries, their own schools, their own police.  The biggest thing they share is probably welfare and transit.  Corzine has tried to push consolidation of some of these services, but most people don&#8217;t want to give up the fantasy of local control (this is a growing issue from the Northeast and into the Great Lakes).  Do you want more for your tax dollar by giving up local control, or do you want local control at the cost of losing services?  None of the candidates in Jersey has really presented a viable option, because the viable option is to consolidate services and that&#8217;s politically unpopular.</p>
<p>This may turn into the &#8220;be careful what you wish for&#8221; election.  The American people&#8211;espeically seniors and the suburban middle class&#8211;are unused to politicians telling them no.  They may vote with their spleens, and if they do, it&#8217;ll only generate more social tension.  There&#8217;s too much &#8220;I want&#8221; and far too little &#8220;how do we?&#8221;.</p>
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