February 9th, 2010
 

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Struggling Anglican leader in Rome for papal talks


(Rome) The Archbishop of Canterbury sought Thursday to downplay the implications of the Vatican’s unprecedented invitation for Anglicans to join the Catholic Church as he arrived in Rome for his first talks with the pope on the new policy.

Archbishop Rowan Williams’ three-day visit, which began Thursday with a lecture and ends Saturday with a papal audience, was scheduled before the Vatican announced it was making it easier for traditional Anglicans upset over the ordination of women and gay bishops to become Catholic.

The Vatican has said it was merely responding to the many Anglican requests to join the Catholic Church and has denied it was poaching for converts in the Anglican pond.

But the move has already strained Catholic-Anglican relations and is sure to affect Williams’ 77-million worldwide Anglican Communion, which was already on the verge of schism over homosexuality and women’s ordination issues before the Vatican intervened.

In a speech at the Pontifical Gregorian University in Rome, Williams was gracious in referring to the Vatican’s new policy, which he called the “elephant in the room.” The policy was an “imaginative pastoral response” to requests by some Anglicans but broke no new doctrinal ground, Williams said.

He spent the bulk of his speech describing the progress that had been achieved so far in decades of Vatican-Anglican ecumenical talks and questioning whether the outstanding issues were really all that great.

“The ecumenical glass is genuinely half full,” the archbishop said.

Anglicans split from Rome in 1534 when English King Henry VIII was refused a marriage annulment. For decades, the two churches have held theological discussions on trying to reunite, part of the Vatican’s broader, long-term ecumenical effort to unify all Christians.

But differences remain and the ecumenical talks were going nowhere as divisions mounted between liberals and traditionalists within the Anglican Communion itself.

While acknowleging the outstanding differences with Rome, Williams suggested that a way forward might be to embrace a “diversity of types of communion,” in which communion could be achieved but not with a “single juridically united body.”

The Vatican official in charge of relations with Anglicans, Cardinal Walter Kasper, also sought to put a positive interpretation on the future, drawing a clear distinction between the doctrinal talks on unification and questions of conversion.

“We cannot close our doors when others knock on them. But this does not exonerate us from” pursuing the broader unification of the churches as institutions, he said in a speech to the Gregorian symposium.

The new policy allows Anglicans to convert to Catholicism but retain many of their Anglican liturgical traditions, including married priests. The Vatican will create the equivalent of new dioceses, so-called personal ordinariates, for these former Anglicans that will be headed by a former Anglican priest or bishop.

Estimates on the number of possible converts has ranged from a few hundred to thousands.

The new policy has elicited heated criticism in Britain, both in Anglican and Roman Catholic circles. Catholic theologian Nicholas Lash said it was “disgraceful” that the Vatican devised the policy without even consulting Catholic bishops, much less Anglican ones.

Williams, for example – the spiritual leader of the worldwide Anglican Communion – wasn’t even informed of the change until right before it was announced.

Kasper referred to the criticism in his speech, saying that in the future issues of both conversion and ecumenism “should be undertaken in the greatest possible transparency, tactfulness and mutual esteem in order not to entail meaningless tensions with our ecumenical partners.”

One group that has cheered the new policy is the Traditional Anglican Communion (TAC), which split from the Anglican Communion in the early 1990s after the first women were ordained Anglican priests. The TAC, which has long sought to come under Rome’s wing, says it has 400,000 members in 41 countries, although only about half are regular churchgoers.

Already, TAC’s British province has voted to take Rome up on its invitation. TAC leader Archbishop John Hepworth has said he anticipates others will follow.

It remains to be seen how the new policy will affect Pope Benedict XVI’s planned trip to Britain next year. One thing is likely, however: The Vatican will surely hold out the upcoming beatification of the most famous Anglican convert, Cardinal John Henry Newman, as a symbol of bridge-building, since the 19th century theologian is a hero to many Anglicans and Catholics alike.


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  • Adrian Quir Said: November 20th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
    • Not a bad idea. These religious homophobic institutions should converge into one stinking pile of dog poo so we can have one target for everyone to set their sights on, aim and fire.

  • Matthew Simonds Said: November 20th, 2009 at 6:37 pm
    • The roman catholic church can pouch all the intolerant people out the the church they want, that leaves it fee to continue down the road of actually fallowing the teachings of Christ all that much faster.

  • Morgan Said: November 20th, 2009 at 10:26 pm
    • Let those unhappy conservative Anglicans go where they will. Be it to Vatican or Africa. It will be so much better for liberal people of faith to have the conservatives unhappy with progress go off elsewhere.

      I saw many people of faith actively take part in the pro-marriage equality side of the street in the rallies in front of the Massachusetts statehouse in Boston any number of times. I was personally in the rallies for MA marriage equality again and again and volunteered in MassEquality’s office several times entering data even though I am a Maryland resident. I cared very much about fight for marriage equality in MA as it was a hard fight to get marriage equality there and great deal of worry as to whether not marriage equality would survive the constitutional referendum process in Mass. It needed to pass the legislature in 2 different legislative sessions each time before finally going to the voters. Fortunately even though the amendment to kill marriage equality passed the 1st session, the MA gay community had good friends in the MA legislature who obviously felt that it was not right to put a minority’s civil rights up for a majority vote. And so, MA marriage equality has survived in MA for 5 years now and MA has had a few years to get used to that.

      But like I saw with my own 2 eyes, a lot of people of faith were repeatedly supporting the pro-marriage equality rallies in Boston in front of the MA statehouse time and time again. And the pro side of the street in front of the statehouse often outnumbered the anti side of the same street again and again.

      And a number of the antigay MA legislators went down to defeat in elections and/or did not run for their seats again.

      Connecticut gets to change its constitution once every 20 years. A very expensive total rewrite that CT voters recently rejected thus helping to secure CT gay marriage. I am now proud that I was born in CT.

      From Vermont, I learned that VT does not have a referendum process unlike Maine. Rendering Maine vulnerable to attack but likely keeping marriage equality safe in VT for a while and hopefully keeping that scenically beautiful state that first started with civil unions from
      being the focus of too much “unwanted” attention for a while. Unfortunately, New Jersey is under attack and Garden State Equality is desperate for funds and for NJ people to lobby their legislators in Trenton this coming Monday sicne the antigay side is seeking to aggressively lobby and to intimidate NJ legislators against NJ marriage equaity that very day. GSE just learned their opponents plans and are calling upon their supporters to keep Monday open for lobbying their NJ legislators from morning on through the day to get to their legislators as soon as possible.

  • robertocucina Said: November 21st, 2009 at 10:38 am
    • The roman cult leader is delusional. It may get a few hundred converts, but there are too many theological differences that the Anglican cult will never concede to Rome, the primary one being the “transubstantion” hurdle. You can’t be an Anglican unless you disagree with it.

  • Steve King Said: November 21st, 2009 at 1:18 pm
    • Frankly, who cares what this ‘cult’, led by a former Nazi decides to do? If people still believe in their mumbo jumbo and fiction in this day and age, I’m sorry for them.

  • Morgan Said: November 21st, 2009 at 2:21 pm
    • I have no intention of ever leaving my Episcopal faith for Catholicism.

  • Morgan Said: November 21st, 2009 at 2:24 pm
    • I was once part of the atheist cult, but I left that cult forever for one I am better suited for, that of the liberal Episocpal.

  • Morgan Said: November 21st, 2009 at 11:37 pm
    • I am one of many liberal Episcopalians who will never accept the authority of the Pope or of Akinola etc. And Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams is way out on the horizon somewhere and I pay him no heed. Whether he goes to Rome or not has no influence on me. I see no need to reunite with papal authority or with Vatican. I am forever refusing Vatican and I never feel or felt a connection to Vatican or the Pope. In all the years I went to Episcopal Church, I never heard Pope or Vatican mentioned in any context and if my own church that I currently attend gets willingly sucked up in the things of Pope and Vatican, (which as a liberal church it currently does not) I will leave it for one that refuses to go in that direction.

  • Amym440 Said: November 22nd, 2009 at 1:09 am
    • I just can’t imagine why the Anglican Bishop didn’t call out the Pope by offering to accept all the Catholics who’ve left over their botched handling of the priest sex abuse scandal.

  • robertocucina Said: November 22nd, 2009 at 8:50 am
    • ooops, a typo in my previous post should have said…”transubstantiation”.

  • Southernhemisphere Said: November 22nd, 2009 at 2:35 pm
    • Such opporutnistic behavior is nothing new in the world. It has always been done in the spirit of capitalism. We as Christians are unified by One Lord Jesus the Christ in whom we have one Faith And by whom we have oneBaptism unto the glory of God Our Father who is in heaven. THe many different administrations we have bless us with wisdom in counsel within our loving expressions of Christian Doctrine for all God’s children. Some of us perform the sign of the cross left to right.Some of perform the sign of the cross right to left. Some of us do not even make the sign of the cross at all.Nonetheless we all are striving to love the same one true, living God in spirit and in truthfulness. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbors house.May the mercy and grace of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ grant us the ability to love ourselves and one another as we are where we are on our respective paths in the universal journey home to Him who is able rto keep us from falling. Pax

 
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