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SF city attorney prepares legal challenge to Prop 8


Updated November 5, 2008 – 2:45 pm ET

Updated November 5, 2008 – 2:30 pm ET

(San Francisco, California) At least three lawsuits are are in the works to challenge Proposition 8, a proposed amendment to the California constitution that would ban same-sex marriage.

One of the suits is planned by City of San Francisco attorney Dennis Herrera’s office. A second is by the three LGBT groups that won the historic California Supreme Court ruling that allowed same-sex marriage in the state.  The third is by one of the couples who were married after the court ruling went into effect in May.

All three suits would begin if Prop 8 passes.

With 95 percent of the vote in across California the “Yes” votes have a slim lead: 52 – 48 percent. Though some outlets called the ballot measure in favor of the anti-gay ban a few hours ago, as many as 3 million ballots – late absentee and provisional ballots – are left to be counted.

It is those ballots that opponents of the amendment are counting on for the measure’s defeat. But most political watchers in the state say it is unlikely the additional ballots will change the result.

The American Civil Liberties Union, Lambda Legal and the National Center for Lesbian Rights filed a writ petition before the California Supreme Court on Wednesday, a preliminary move to a suit.

The petition charges that Proposition 8 is invalid because the initiative process was improperly used in an attempt to undo the constitution’s core commitment to equality for everyone, by eliminating a fundamental right from just one group – lesbian and gay Californians. 

The petition also says that Proposition 8 improperly attempts to prevent the courts from exercising their essential constitutional role of protecting the equal protection rights of minorities. The groups in the petition say that under the California Constitution, such radical changes to the organizing principles of state government cannot be made by simple majority vote through the initiative process, but instead must, at a minimum, go through the state legislature first.

The California Constitution itself sets out two ways to alter the document that sets the most basic rules about how state government works, the groups said in a statement. 

Through the initiative process, voters can make relatively small changes to the constitution.  But any measure that would change the underlying principles of the constitution must first be approved by the legislature before being submitted to the voters.  That didn’t happen with Proposition 8, and that’s why it’s invalid, the petition said.

“If the voters approved an initiative that took the right to free speech away from women, but not from men, everyone would agree that such a measure conflicts with the basic ideals of equality enshrined in our constitution.  Proposition 8 suffers from the same flaw – it removes a protected constitutional right - here, the right to marry - not from all Californians, but just from one group of us,” said Jenny Pizer, Senior Counsel with Lambda Legal.   “That’s too big a change in the principles of our constitution to be made just by a bare majority of voters.”

Robin Tyler and Diane Olson, the first lesbian couple to be legally married in Los Angeles County, also plan a lawsuit against Proposition 8. 

Their attorney, Gloria Allred, said the suit would argue that the measure is unconstitutional.

Proposition 8 is the first time such a vote has taken place in state where gay unions are legal.

A study by the Williams Institute at UCLA School of Law indicated that by Election Day 2008, approximately18,000 same-sex couples had married in California.

Exit polls reported by CNN show that while a slim majority of white voters said they rejected the amendment, an equally slim majority of African American and Hispanic voters said they had voted for the amendment.

The battle for and against the measure, known as Proposition 8, cost more than $70 million, making it one of the most expensive ballot campaigns in history. Much of the money on both sides came from outside California.

Similar bans on same-sex marriage were approved by voters Tuesday in Florida and Arizona; while in Arkansas the electorate endorsed a measure to prevent same-sex couples from adopting.

Florida

In Florida, the ballot measure amends the state constitution to limit marriage to opposite sex couples and ban civil unions.

The amendment also could be used to deny partner benefits to unmarried couples who live together.

The amendment says, “Inasmuch as marriage is the legal union of only one man and one woman, no other legal union that is treated as marriage or the substantial equivalent thereof shall be valid or recognized.”

Constitutional amendments in Florida require a 60 percent majority. The marriage amendment won with 62 percent of the vote. Thirty-eight percent were opposed.

Florida already had a law restricting marriage to opposite-sex couples, but supporters of the amendment say the law could be overturned in court.

Arizona

In Arizona, where a simple majority is needed to amend the state constitution, 56 percent of voters approved limiting marriage to opposite-sex couples.

It was the second time Arizona voters were asked to change the state’s constitution to define marriage as a union between one man and one woman.

Voters rejected a similar state constitutional amendment in 2006. That measure would have also stopped the state from recognizing civil unions of same-sex couples.

Arizona law already prohibits same-sex marriages. Supporters say the amendment will “protect the sanctity of families” by preventing judges from overturning the 1996 state law.

Arkansas

Arkansas, which already has a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage, now will limit adoptions and foster care of children to people who are legally married.

The ballot measure passed Tuesday by a wide margin – 57-43 percent.

The measure grew out of a state Supreme Court ruling last year that overturned a Child Welfare Agency Review Board policy that banned gay people from serving as foster parents.

In its unanimous ruling, the court said that “the driving force behind adoption of the regulations was not to promote the health, safety and welfare of foster children but rather based upon the board’s views of morality and its bias against homosexuals.”

The Arkansas Family Council – the same group that spearheaded Arkansas’ constitutional ban on same-sex marriage – collected enough signatures to place the adoption referendum before voters.

Connecticut

In Connecticut, a potential anti-gay measure was also on the ballot. Connecticut voters turned down a call for state constitutional convention.

Under the state constitution, the question automatically goes on the ballot only every 20 years.

Earlier this year, the state Supreme Court ruled that Connecticut’s civil unions law failed to provide equality. The first same-sex marriages in the state are slated to begin Nov. 12.

By chance, the automatic ballot question came up this year, raising fears that if voters agreed to a constitutional convention it would have been used to ban gay marriage.

The Family Institute of Connecticut had gone on record calling for a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage.


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  • Arcanum Said: November 5th, 2008 at 6:02 pm
    • Gender does not define family or marriage, LOVE do.

  • Wayne Said: November 5th, 2008 at 6:12 pm
    • The CNN Exit Polls for Prop 8:

      · 75% of black women voted Yes on Prop 8.
      · 54% of Latino men voted Yes, and 52% of Latino women voted Yes
      · 70% of Blacks (Male and Female) voted Yes, 54% of Latino (Male and Female) voted Yes.
      · A slim majority of Whites, 51% voted No on Prop 8.
      · 61% of young people (18-24) voted No on Prop 8.
      · 59% of 25-29 year olds voted No on Prop 8.

      http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/polls/...

      * It should also be noted that the Black community was a targeted demographic by the Obama campaign during the Obama “Faith Tours” which had “Yes on Prop 8″ advocates shilling for both Obama and the passage of Prop 8.

  • Ted Said: November 5th, 2008 at 6:13 pm
    • May all the African-Americans who cowardly supported the religious right’s Prop 8 in California and Prop 2 in Florida roast in the same hell as the evangelicals, mormons, racists, and catholics who waged their hateful campaigns against gays and lesbians and transgendered people. I busted my ass in the Civil Rights movement to demand that African Americans have the same rights as everyone else even to marry a white person.

  • LaToya Said: November 5th, 2008 at 6:14 pm
    • This is not over yet and best to believe same-sex marriages will happen sooner then you think. Equally for all and is just wrong to turn us down because of who we are. We gonna fight until the end until we get our rights to get married.

  • Ted Said: November 5th, 2008 at 6:15 pm
    • I agree with Quasi Said and have stated for years that marriage is a civil right and matrimony is a religious rite.

  • Andrew Said: November 5th, 2008 at 6:17 pm
    • While I think these lawsuits are a great idea (especially with respect to challending the amendment process), I think that GBLT Americans need to hit the streets NOW and protest and DEMAND their rights! If African Americans had attempted to achieve their equality via lawsuits and appeals to lawmakers, do you think they would be where they are now? No. The civil rights movement, though non-violent protest, showed the country that African Americans just wouldn’t take it anymore. Act up!

  • Wayne Said: November 5th, 2008 at 6:27 pm
    • The sad and brutal irony is that so many gay people came together to help elect the first African American President, only to see African Americans betray us by voting in droves to deny our equality.

  • Vanster Said: November 5th, 2008 at 6:30 pm
    • Actually, California did propose a Civil Union some time ago but was rejected because it was “too similar” to marriage. Then they came up with the domestic partnership which could only give some rights. Separate but equal doesn’t work in our country, it’s all or nothing. However, I’m pretty sure the US supreme court will strike this down, not because of morality, but because it sets a dangerous precedent. Also, to note the US constitution says nothing about marriage :D . Why we fight for marriage is because people discriminate on marriage status? They can’t really say it is because they are homophobic or else they’ll lose however, if they say marriage status–well they can get away with it. Don’t worry, this sucker is going to be gone 4 years tops. There will be Gay Marriage as the young generation comes into power. I never knew any civil rights won by popularity. It was always the US supreme court! Women and Blacks didn’t get their rights because of “popularity” but by courts. So, we must elect officials that’ll bend our way. That’s what Harvey Milk wanted to do because during his time, popularity was not on lgbt side either. IT was because of elected officials who sympathize with us. I’m sure this stupid prop has invoked the minds of young individuals that in their lifetime they bare witness to injustice.

  • this world isn't as simple as you'd like it to be. Said: November 5th, 2008 at 6:36 pm
    • Some of you are making correlations that are astounding.

  • Sargon Bighorn Said: November 5th, 2008 at 6:38 pm
    • RJB, Civil Unions, Civil Partnerships, Together Unions, are not Marriage and do not have the same legal standing. The paperwork, laws, statutes, contracts, and all the other legal documents in American that use the word “marriage” will not be changed to no use Civil Union or anything else. And what happens if one state says, “we don’t have Civil Unions here, we only have marriage, sorry couple what you have is meaningless here.” What then? With a Marriage license that statement can not be upheld in a court of law.

  • Arcanum Said: November 5th, 2008 at 6:43 pm
  • PJ Said: November 5th, 2008 at 6:52 pm
    • Doesn’t this make the US constitution a complete joke? All men are not created equal and the fact that the rights of minorities are put to a vote in the US is completely disgusting. I live in Vancouver and today I thank my lucky stars I’m Canadian. I married my partner 2 years ago and live in comfort knowing that my rights will never be put to a hateful vote. I really feel for all LGTB Americans today. Until the US can fully separate church and state, LGTB citizens will continue to have their rights revoked and put into question. This is eerily similar to Nazi Germany in my opinion.

  • Trace Said: November 5th, 2008 at 7:00 pm
    • PJ, it’s not minorities rights that are put to a vote. It is (and make no mistake about it) “Minority” that has it’s rights voted. And the complete irony of it is that we can place much blame on a few “minority” groups.

  • Wayne Said: November 5th, 2008 at 7:06 pm
    • The fact that 70% of the African American community, and 75% of Black women voted against gay equalit makes me certain that Bayard Rustin is rolling over in his grave.

      If you don’t know who Bayard was, and how pivitol one gay man was to MLK’s civil rights movement then Google Bayard Rustin, it’s a part of the civil rights movement that many don’t like to talk about.

      check out this link for starters:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayard_Rustin

  • Wayne Said: November 5th, 2008 at 7:20 pm
    • The fact that 70% of the African American community, and 75% of Black women voted against gay equality makes me certain that Bayard Rustin is rolling over in his grave.

      If you don’t know who Bayard was, and how pivitol one gay man was to MLK’s civil rights movement then Google Bayard Rustin, it’s a part of the civil rights movement that many don’t like to talk about.

      check out this link for starters:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayard_Rustin

      (typo corrected)

 
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