SF city attorney prepares legal challenge to Prop 8
11.05.2008 3:51pm EST
Updated November 5, 2008 – 2:45 pm ET
Updated November 5, 2008 – 2:30 pm ET
(San Francisco, California) At least three lawsuits are are in the works to challenge Proposition 8, a proposed amendment to the California constitution that would ban same-sex marriage.One of the suits is planned by City of San Francisco attorney Dennis Herrera’s office. A second is by the three LGBT groups that won the historic California Supreme Court ruling that allowed same-sex marriage in the state. The third is by one of the couples who were married after the court ruling went into effect in May.
All three suits would begin if Prop 8 passes.
With 95 percent of the vote in across California the “Yes” votes have a slim lead: 52 – 48 percent. Though some outlets called the ballot measure in favor of the anti-gay ban a few hours ago, as many as 3 million ballots – late absentee and provisional ballots – are left to be counted.
It is those ballots that opponents of the amendment are counting on for the measure’s defeat. But most political watchers in the state say it is unlikely the additional ballots will change the result.
The American Civil Liberties Union, Lambda Legal and the National Center for Lesbian Rights filed a writ petition before the California Supreme Court on Wednesday, a preliminary move to a suit.
The petition charges that Proposition 8 is invalid because the initiative process was improperly used in an attempt to undo the constitution’s core commitment to equality for everyone, by eliminating a fundamental right from just one group – lesbian and gay Californians.
The petition also says that Proposition 8 improperly attempts to prevent the courts from exercising their essential constitutional role of protecting the equal protection rights of minorities. The groups in the petition say that under the California Constitution, such radical changes to the organizing principles of state government cannot be made by simple majority vote through the initiative process, but instead must, at a minimum, go through the state legislature first.
The California Constitution itself sets out two ways to alter the document that sets the most basic rules about how state government works, the groups said in a statement.
Through the initiative process, voters can make relatively small changes to the constitution. But any measure that would change the underlying principles of the constitution must first be approved by the legislature before being submitted to the voters. That didn’t happen with Proposition 8, and that’s why it’s invalid, the petition said.
“If the voters approved an initiative that took the right to free speech away from women, but not from men, everyone would agree that such a measure conflicts with the basic ideals of equality enshrined in our constitution. Proposition 8 suffers from the same flaw – it removes a protected constitutional right - here, the right to marry - not from all Californians, but just from one group of us,” said Jenny Pizer, Senior Counsel with Lambda Legal. “That’s too big a change in the principles of our constitution to be made just by a bare majority of voters.”
Robin Tyler and Diane Olson, the first lesbian couple to be legally married in Los Angeles County, also plan a lawsuit against Proposition 8.
Their attorney, Gloria Allred, said the suit would argue that the measure is unconstitutional.
Proposition 8 is the first time such a vote has taken place in state where gay unions are legal.
A study by the Williams Institute at UCLA School of Law indicated that by Election Day 2008, approximately18,000 same-sex couples had married in California.
Exit polls reported by CNN show that while a slim majority of white voters said they rejected the amendment, an equally slim majority of African American and Hispanic voters said they had voted for the amendment.
The battle for and against the measure, known as Proposition 8, cost more than $70 million, making it one of the most expensive ballot campaigns in history. Much of the money on both sides came from outside California.
Similar bans on same-sex marriage were approved by voters Tuesday in Florida and Arizona; while in Arkansas the electorate endorsed a measure to prevent same-sex couples from adopting.
Florida
In Florida, the ballot measure amends the state constitution to limit marriage to opposite sex couples and ban civil unions.
The amendment also could be used to deny partner benefits to unmarried couples who live together.
The amendment says, “Inasmuch as marriage is the legal union of only one man and one woman, no other legal union that is treated as marriage or the substantial equivalent thereof shall be valid or recognized.”
Constitutional amendments in Florida require a 60 percent majority. The marriage amendment won with 62 percent of the vote. Thirty-eight percent were opposed.
Florida already had a law restricting marriage to opposite-sex couples, but supporters of the amendment say the law could be overturned in court.
Arizona
In Arizona, where a simple majority is needed to amend the state constitution, 56 percent of voters approved limiting marriage to opposite-sex couples.
It was the second time Arizona voters were asked to change the state’s constitution to define marriage as a union between one man and one woman.
Voters rejected a similar state constitutional amendment in 2006. That measure would have also stopped the state from recognizing civil unions of same-sex couples.
Arizona law already prohibits same-sex marriages. Supporters say the amendment will “protect the sanctity of families” by preventing judges from overturning the 1996 state law.
Arkansas
Arkansas, which already has a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage, now will limit adoptions and foster care of children to people who are legally married.
The ballot measure passed Tuesday by a wide margin – 57-43 percent.
The measure grew out of a state Supreme Court ruling last year that overturned a Child Welfare Agency Review Board policy that banned gay people from serving as foster parents.
In its unanimous ruling, the court said that “the driving force behind adoption of the regulations was not to promote the health, safety and welfare of foster children but rather based upon the board’s views of morality and its bias against homosexuals.”
The Arkansas Family Council – the same group that spearheaded Arkansas’ constitutional ban on same-sex marriage – collected enough signatures to place the adoption referendum before voters.
Connecticut
In Connecticut, a potential anti-gay measure was also on the ballot. Connecticut voters turned down a call for state constitutional convention.
Under the state constitution, the question automatically goes on the ballot only every 20 years.
Earlier this year, the state Supreme Court ruled that Connecticut’s civil unions law failed to provide equality. The first same-sex marriages in the state are slated to begin Nov. 12.
By chance, the automatic ballot question came up this year, raising fears that if voters agreed to a constitutional convention it would have been used to ban gay marriage.
The Family Institute of Connecticut had gone on record calling for a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage.





I say we also need to seek an end to the tax free status of those religious contributors seeing as they see fit to strip taxpayers of their rights.
While these suits are going, I think it would be wise for campaigns against this measure to reorganize and get recruit volunteers to go out to areas of the state where the measure was won. Make big hits within the minority communities (especially African Americans) and try to change the minds of those who seem like long shots. It works to go into to territory where you are unwelcome and campaign. It worked for our president elect. No better time to act than now.
All I can say is I’m glad I’m Canadian and my Husband and I didn’t have to endure this type of battle after legalization. Rights should not be a matter of a popular vote. Equality means equality in all aspects of life. It just confirms for us that we will never again be traveling in the United States.
Shame on African-Americans turning away from homosexual civil rights as they voted in orgiastic abandon for the culmination of their own civil rights movement, shame on them.
EXCELLENT POINT!!!
“If the voters approved an initiative that took the right to free speech away from women, but not from men, everyone would agree that such a measure conflicts with the basic ideals of equality enshrined in our constitution. Proposition 8 suffers from the same flaw – it removes a protected constitutional right – here, the right to marry – not from all Californians, but just from one group of us,” said Jenny Pizer, Senior Counsel with Lambda Legal. “That’s too big a change in the principles of our constitution to be made just by a bare majority of voters.”
i am gay a black woman i am so happy for obama .
kallisto76, thank you for that. Word up, if these churches insist on using all their government assistance monies and tax exemptions to feed the politics of hate and bigotry, then they should be penalized and taxed like everyone else. What concerns me deeply, is that on the day we elected the first Black president, Afican Americans were voting 75% for the proposition. That hurts.
The shame falls mostly on us. How many of us reached out to our black coworkers and neighbors, letting them know that we were voting for Obama as an ICON of freedom for all, and let them know that we were asking for them to support our cause. How many of us visited churches and asked to POLITELY talk to the ministers and/or their members to ask them to support our rights, with the assurance that we support their rights? We can point fingers at anyone, but ultimately, we have to point them right back at ourselves. Going forward, let’s all be clear about who we are and who we support. OUR NEW PRESIDENT SAYS HE SUPPORTS US – Anyone who supports him should take that to mind.
If we also use the secular argument “Marriage is a contract, and the people cannot take away the right to contract from anyone” because it is protected by the US Constitution and the ruled a basic right of all people in the US to make contracts. If we do this, then the religious idiots and the evil bigots cannot possibly have a leg to stand on. And any such challenge to marriage contract will fail miserably.
The “marriage contract” is enshrined in the laws to simply make it a simple matter to wed, and to have some semblance order. If it is not a contract, then why are “prenuptial agreements” even legal and why do divorce agreements have to be made by the courts? It is a modification to the basic secular contract enacted into law.
Everyone is spot on in their comments. The other thing we should do as a community is “vote” with our money. If you know a business owner gave to the Yes campaign, don’t do business with them. Spend your money supporting those who support us.
Jonathan said:The shame falls mostly on us. How many of us reached out to our black coworkers… NO, Jonathan the shame falls on THEM and their own vote. For the Black community – whose own history in this country is so tied to the civil rights movement – for them to vote so overwhelmingly against gay civil rights is shameful in every way!
Prop 8 is proof that it is better to change the hearts and minds of people rather than use the courts to make change. I think we’re better off regrouping and reaching out to those who voted for Prop 8 rather than trying to use the courts to force it on people. Perhaps it would be better just to drop these lawsuits…
While I have to agree that African Americans, ironically, are the most bigoted culture in the US, let us not forget the evil scheming ways of the Prop 8 backers. Apparently, they were most effective in using Barack Obama’s voice in its robo-calls to all people of color, taken from his debates when he said he believe marriage was between man and woman. Still, with Jerry Brown’s help, the wording of prop 8 was clear enough. As for the polls, what we had is something of a Bradley effect: people promising no, but voting yes.
While I have to agree that African Americans, ironically, are the most bigoted culture in the US, let us not forget the evil scheming ways of the Prop 8 backers. Apparently, they were most effective in using Barack Obama’s voice in its robo-calls to all people of color, taken from his debates when he said he believe marriage was between man and woman. Still, with Jerry Brown’s help, the wording of prop 8 was clear enough. As for the polls, what we had is something of a Bradley effect: people promising no, but voting yes.
As a non-American, I’m a bit baffled at the way that American LGBT campaigners are going about this campaign. Leave the rights-rhetoric aside for a moment, and ask: what is it that you really want? If it is the legal rights and status that accompany marriage, then you should be able to settle for civil partnerships (which would most likely be supported by the majority of Californians, if not indeed most Americans) with adoption and fostering rights equivalent to those of married people. If it is the name and social status of marriage that you demand, then I cannot see how any court or branch of government can legislate for this. It is outside their remit; it is a cultural and religious matter.
Californian LGBT campaigners have gambled everything on their demand for the name of “marriage”, and it seems they have lost. If they had settled for the substance without the name (which seems to me to be all that the ‘civil rights’ of gay people can deliver anyway)they might enjoy the legal status which is presently denied them.