Comments on: Schwarzenegger signs Harvey Milk Day and Marriage Recognition bills

By: bb

bb — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 20:07:44 +0000

@Amber Burza — “Also, is there anything the right wingers can do to reverse this? Before the election?”

The right wingers can, unfortunately, attempt, as was the case in Prop H8, to initiate a Peoples Referendum. They would need 600K+ signatures to get it on the ballot, and then yeah, the population (California) could vote to accept or reject this piece of legislation.

@Jayson — “cool, so i get married in Boston, Mass. then when i go back to California its recongized in state of California that my partner and I are legally married and we have same rights has heterosexual couples”

Not exactly. If married after Prop H8 (11/05/2008) in a legal state or country, the best that California will recognize is the rights of being married, but not in name. Eddie Barnett is correct: it would be similar to a DP (99% of Rights, 1% Without Name)–if the name isn’t important to you, but the rights and recognition are, then this perfect for you. If you want the name and the rights, well, then you’ll just have to be patient, ‘cuz 52% of the voting population isn’t ready for that.

IMHO, it really is the best that the CA legislature could do to circumvent Proposition 8 right now. If the nutjobs don’t attempt, or succeed in putting this piece of legislation on the ballot, give it a couple of years, and then the next logical step would be full marriage, again! The key here is to have this continue for a few years; let the middle-of-the-road folks become comfortable with it. When they see the sky didn’t fall, and the moon hasn’t left it’s orbit, then they too will become supportive of full marriage equality.

By: Jay

Jay — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 20:02:32 +0000

Some of you are getting this wrong. If you married in another state between July and November 2008 (the months that same-sex marriage was legal in California), then you are married. If you were married before July are after November 4, then you are domestic partners.

By: Jayson Andres

Jayson Andres — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19:11:18 +0000

cool, so i get married in Boston, Mass. then when i go back to California its recongized in state of California that my partner and I are legally married and we have same rights has heterosexual couples.

By: Amber Burza

Amber Burza — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:59:59 +0000

Still a little unclear; So MOVING FORWARD; If my partner and I, who live in CA, get married tomorrow in, let’s say Iowa, we can live in CA as a married couple?
Also, is there anything the right wingers can do to reverse this? Before the election?

By: Eddie Barnett

Eddie Barnett — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 03:56:42 +0000

Here’s some clarity on what the Gov. signed today on same-sex marriage:

If you are a same-sex couple that was or is able to legally marry in another State or country, when you come to California, visit or live, you will be considered “domestic partners”, which in California gives you something like 99% of all the rights as married straights in California, but without the title “marriage”.

As for the 18,000 couples that got married in California in the 4 1/2 months it was legal in 2008, we are still legally married, per the CA Supreme Court ruling a few months ago.

By: jessieka

jessieka — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 01:02:42 +0000

both facebook user & jb YES YES YES!!
pre 8 = married
Other state = married
Check that box babe ca ackowledges us as human beings married even!

By: jessieka

jessieka — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 00:55:02 +0000

its funny that a godson of hitlers grants us protection while are mixed president only blows hot air!

By: jb

jb — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 21:02:51 +0000

I don’t know if I am really reading this correctly or not: Does this mean that I can be married in Iowa and then move to California and have my marriage recognized? If so, then this just, in effect, overturned Prop 8! All that it means is that I have to have the ceremony in a state that allows marriage, but I can live in CA as a married man! Hmmmm, I AM curious about that little square on our joint state tax return though, the one that says “married”. Can I now check that? I don’t get to use the word “married” as the law is written, so what do I do??? I think that in the long run, this law will be the end-run around Prop 8 that will allow us to live our lives as we see fit and that after a year or two of this, everyone will see that full marriage rights will be the only logical step to take. I hope that a law like this can pass in all states that currently do not all “marriage”!!!

By: Facebook User

Facebook User — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20:40:20 +0000

What if we were married pre-Prop 8 and pre-CA Supreme Court ruling making equal marriage constitutional (May/June 2009). I married in Canada in 2005. Does this mean that even though CA didn’t recognize my marriage when I got married, they’ll recognize it now because it happened before Prop 8?

If so, that is crazy…cool but crazy…