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	<title>Comments on: Results of Utah gov. meeting with gay rights groups</title>
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		<title>By: Morgan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 20:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Utah is slow compared to Maryland which is slow compared to New England.

But a change of MD govs brought about some progay laws in MD not possible just one MD gov ago. We are having our annual pro MD marriage equality this February 8th, 2010 near the Maryland statehouse, same as we have had for the last several years. We meet up with others from our home districts in Maryland and later in the day, we go in and we talk to our MD legislators in Annapolis (the MD state capital city) about marriage equality for Maryland same-sex couples. 

Utah may similarly benefit under a more progay gov if it gets one next election in that state. It was progressing under Huntsman and this current gov put a halt to Utah&#039;s progress forward.

&quot;Where do you stop?&quot; asks Gov. Herbert? Fear-mongering plain and simple. This is the 21st century and Utah gays and lesbians and their allies should exert more and more pressure on their state to act like a 21st century state in terms of rights for all Utahans and not just some Utahans. No need to accept that kind of nonsense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Utah is slow compared to Maryland which is slow compared to New England.</p>
<p>But a change of MD govs brought about some progay laws in MD not possible just one MD gov ago. We are having our annual pro MD marriage equality this February 8th, 2010 near the Maryland statehouse, same as we have had for the last several years. We meet up with others from our home districts in Maryland and later in the day, we go in and we talk to our MD legislators in Annapolis (the MD state capital city) about marriage equality for Maryland same-sex couples. </p>
<p>Utah may similarly benefit under a more progay gov if it gets one next election in that state. It was progressing under Huntsman and this current gov put a halt to Utah&#8217;s progress forward.</p>
<p>&#8220;Where do you stop?&#8221; asks Gov. Herbert? Fear-mongering plain and simple. This is the 21st century and Utah gays and lesbians and their allies should exert more and more pressure on their state to act like a 21st century state in terms of rights for all Utahans and not just some Utahans. No need to accept that kind of nonsense.</p>
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		<title>By: OhPlease</title>
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		<dc:creator>OhPlease</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 21:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boycott Utah</description>
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		<title>By: sparky_413</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/news/results-of-utah-gov-meeting-with-gay-rights-groups/comment-page-1/#comment-74184</link>
		<dc:creator>sparky_413</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 20:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s only an overture to try to stem the anti-mormon sentiment that is rising in this country. This coming from a cult that is based upon an indescribable language on invisible plates.  Yeah, that&#039;s normal.  Boycott Utah?  Why would you even go there?  I&#039;ve been to Utah and I can get more meaning out of pictures than actually going there.  It&#039;s like walking on the Moon.  

Even IF there is a law that prevents discrimination based upon sexuality, no one will abide by it and there&#039;s no way to know if they don&#039;t.  There&#039;s no need for a law unless you can enforce it.  Who would enforce this law, the Utah government?  Yeah, that&#039;ll work.  What a joke.

I say, forget the boycott.  Revoke their tax exempt status because LDS is NOT a religion but a cult.  Besides, any entity that organizes for political purposes and invests $20M into that purpose is a political entity and NOT a religion and should not be entitled to a tax exempt status based upon religion.  They can&#039;t have it both ways.  That&#039;s flat out fraud!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s only an overture to try to stem the anti-mormon sentiment that is rising in this country. This coming from a cult that is based upon an indescribable language on invisible plates.  Yeah, that&#8217;s normal.  Boycott Utah?  Why would you even go there?  I&#8217;ve been to Utah and I can get more meaning out of pictures than actually going there.  It&#8217;s like walking on the Moon.  </p>
<p>Even IF there is a law that prevents discrimination based upon sexuality, no one will abide by it and there&#8217;s no way to know if they don&#8217;t.  There&#8217;s no need for a law unless you can enforce it.  Who would enforce this law, the Utah government?  Yeah, that&#8217;ll work.  What a joke.</p>
<p>I say, forget the boycott.  Revoke their tax exempt status because LDS is NOT a religion but a cult.  Besides, any entity that organizes for political purposes and invests $20M into that purpose is a political entity and NOT a religion and should not be entitled to a tax exempt status based upon religion.  They can&#8217;t have it both ways.  That&#8217;s flat out fraud!!</p>
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		<title>By: jessieka</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/news/results-of-utah-gov-meeting-with-gay-rights-groups/comment-page-1/#comment-74141</link>
		<dc:creator>jessieka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 23:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>realy what says oregon does not discriminate when 1/2 the counties have laws passed by the voters.That allow job loss &amp; eviction for gay people.I have been declined both housing &amp; employment with in the past 3 years!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>realy what says oregon does not discriminate when 1/2 the counties have laws passed by the voters.That allow job loss &amp; eviction for gay people.I have been declined both housing &amp; employment with in the past 3 years!</p>
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		<title>By: SteveMD2</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/news/results-of-utah-gov-meeting-with-gay-rights-groups/comment-page-1/#comment-74140</link>
		<dc:creator>SteveMD2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 23:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe the beginning of an opening.  In MD, on passage of a bill allowing gays to add a partner to their house deed without paying the transfer tax (easily 10000$) passed with one republican vote.  The state senate minority leader.  Because we talked with him, understood his issues etc.

And a fallout of his vote may be the real reason that the repub bigot woman who kept introing a bill to constitutionally ban gay marriage quit the senate to spend more time with her children.

You look for every opening, every chance to understand and have your opponents understand each other&#039;s issues. And sometimes this helps make incremental progress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe the beginning of an opening.  In MD, on passage of a bill allowing gays to add a partner to their house deed without paying the transfer tax (easily 10000$) passed with one republican vote.  The state senate minority leader.  Because we talked with him, understood his issues etc.</p>
<p>And a fallout of his vote may be the real reason that the repub bigot woman who kept introing a bill to constitutionally ban gay marriage quit the senate to spend more time with her children.</p>
<p>You look for every opening, every chance to understand and have your opponents understand each other&#8217;s issues. And sometimes this helps make incremental progress.</p>
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		<title>By: Terryinindy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terryinindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 22:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boycott Utah.
Kick the bigots out of power and maybe the money will return...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boycott Utah.<br />
Kick the bigots out of power and maybe the money will return&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ps2os2</title>
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		<dc:creator>ps2os2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 22:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well now meeting with an &quot;enemy&quot; does not necessarily you agree with their ideas. I am not quite sure how people can say it is a first step. A first step acknowledges that their is a problem. According to UTAH they do not have a problem so it is OK to continue to discriminate. 
When you have religious zealots like the Mormons there is no first step either you are with them or they are against you period end of story.

I would suggest that anyone that is gay to get out of UTAH quickly and let them know why you are leaving. Yes it would make them happy but in the end it will make you happier.

I agree with the sentiment to boycott UTAH. What would be ideal is to get the US government to put its backbone in and step into the fray but that will not happen as we now have a President that has moved toward the rights intolerance of gays.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well now meeting with an &#8220;enemy&#8221; does not necessarily you agree with their ideas. I am not quite sure how people can say it is a first step. A first step acknowledges that their is a problem. According to UTAH they do not have a problem so it is OK to continue to discriminate.<br />
When you have religious zealots like the Mormons there is no first step either you are with them or they are against you period end of story.</p>
<p>I would suggest that anyone that is gay to get out of UTAH quickly and let them know why you are leaving. Yes it would make them happy but in the end it will make you happier.</p>
<p>I agree with the sentiment to boycott UTAH. What would be ideal is to get the US government to put its backbone in and step into the fray but that will not happen as we now have a President that has moved toward the rights intolerance of gays.</p>
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		<title>By: Dermot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dermot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 22:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t boycott Utah.  It will only make life harder for LGBT Utahns.  Help LGBT Utahns!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t boycott Utah.  It will only make life harder for LGBT Utahns.  Help LGBT Utahns!</p>
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		<title>By: bobweekend</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobweekend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 19:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many folks are harassed, beaten, killed, or commit suicide because they have blue eyes?  I thought Hitler wanted everyone to have Blond Hair and Blue eyes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many folks are harassed, beaten, killed, or commit suicide because they have blue eyes?  I thought Hitler wanted everyone to have Blond Hair and Blue eyes.</p>
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		<title>By: michaelnDallas</title>
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		<dc:creator>michaelnDallas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 19:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a journey begins with one step.  The govenor didn&#039;t have to meet with Equality Utah. It&#039;s a step forward on the journey. Let&#039;s not predetermine what path the govenor will take.  He is open to understanding and learning the facts of discrimination.  Noone wants to believe they discriminate.  We learn we do when we take a step to find out if we do or not.  How he proceeds will determine whether he will continue on this journey or detour to the conservative camp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a journey begins with one step.  The govenor didn&#8217;t have to meet with Equality Utah. It&#8217;s a step forward on the journey. Let&#8217;s not predetermine what path the govenor will take.  He is open to understanding and learning the facts of discrimination.  Noone wants to believe they discriminate.  We learn we do when we take a step to find out if we do or not.  How he proceeds will determine whether he will continue on this journey or detour to the conservative camp.</p>
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