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		<title>By: judderwocky</title>
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		<dc:creator>judderwocky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 04:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>for what its worth... if comments like these were sprayed on walls we would call it hate speech and wash it off. some arguments are not meant to be constructive and are purely defamatory. time to repaint.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>for what its worth&#8230; if comments like these were sprayed on walls we would call it hate speech and wash it off. some arguments are not meant to be constructive and are purely defamatory. time to repaint.</p>
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		<title>By: dwdowney</title>
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		<dc:creator>dwdowney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 01:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The John Jay College of Criminal Justice report could never pass muster for publication in a serious scientific journal. The study was commissioned and paid for by the USCCB who are the ones who supplied the data and are drawing the appropriate conclusions. Such a conflict of interest is unacceptable. 
The investigating should have been done by a local district attorney.

There are over four thousand pedophile clergy with well over eleven thousand victims. Eighty-one percent of the victims are boys victimized homosexuals.
The Catholic clergy is glutted with homosexuals who have entered the Church since the 1960s when the established barriers to prevent both active and latent homosexuals from entering the seminaries and religious orders were removed.

These same homosexuals have established networks that protect their own interests. They covered for the pedophiles for years. And the cover up will continue. They will most assuredly work to present the data in a light that covers any causal relationship between homosexuals and their victims. 

D. W. Downey</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The John Jay College of Criminal Justice report could never pass muster for publication in a serious scientific journal. The study was commissioned and paid for by the USCCB who are the ones who supplied the data and are drawing the appropriate conclusions. Such a conflict of interest is unacceptable.<br />
The investigating should have been done by a local district attorney.</p>
<p>There are over four thousand pedophile clergy with well over eleven thousand victims. Eighty-one percent of the victims are boys victimized homosexuals.<br />
The Catholic clergy is glutted with homosexuals who have entered the Church since the 1960s when the established barriers to prevent both active and latent homosexuals from entering the seminaries and religious orders were removed.</p>
<p>These same homosexuals have established networks that protect their own interests. They covered for the pedophiles for years. And the cover up will continue. They will most assuredly work to present the data in a light that covers any causal relationship between homosexuals and their victims. </p>
<p>D. W. Downey</p>
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		<title>By: 366gay</title>
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		<dc:creator>366gay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and members of this gay blog, if you feel that you are calling out these reported facts, why even the discussion of banning.

I don&#039;t wish your hate, bigotry and derogatory words banned. If that is all you got then oh well, but I hope that you will one day turn to reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and members of this gay blog, if you feel that you are calling out these reported facts, why even the discussion of banning.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t wish your hate, bigotry and derogatory words banned. If that is all you got then oh well, but I hope that you will one day turn to reason.</p>
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		<title>By: 366gay</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/news/report-homosexuality-no-factor-in-abusive-priests/comment-page-2/#comment-77608</link>
		<dc:creator>366gay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tara, you are such a liar. The FDC does have many concersn, manufacturing and food yes, but pedophilia no.

First, I guess it was you looking at me in the park, since you like females. And as for me, if I was looking at a cheerleader, it must have been my daughter. Mothers and daughters spend time together. BUt,on hte other hand, stop drooling over my daughter.

The so-called authority on pedophilia is the APA. You obviously do not know that it means American Psychiatric Assn.

The American Psychiatric Association (APA) is working toward full
normalization of pedophilia and pederasty. Dr Fred Berlin of Johns Hopkins
is a main spokesman for the &quot;normality&quot; of pedophilia and pederasty, they
just shouldn&#039;t &quot;act on it.&quot; This is the third &quot;intellectual&quot; and medical
generation building on Kinsey&#039;s fraudulent child abuse data used to destroy
laws protecting women and children via the American Law Institute in 1955.
Judith Reisman, Ph.D.

Eugene Abel also found that non-incarcerated &quot;child molesters admitted from 23.4 to 281.7 acts per offender … whose targets were males.&quot; 
&quot;The rate of homosexual versus heterosexual child sexual abuse is staggering,&quot; said Reisman, who was the principal investigator for an $800,000 Justice Department grant studying child pornography and violence. &quot;Abel’s data of 150.2 boys abused per male homosexual offender finds no equal (yet) in heterosexual violations of 19.8 girls.&quot; 

Gene Gauber, I will use the 2000 US Census report:The 2000 census sheds even more light on the subject.  The overall statistics from the 2000 Census Bureau revealed: 
The total population of the U.S. is 285,230,516. 
The total number of households in the U.S. is 106,741,426. 
The total number of unmarried same-sex households is 601,209.
Thus, out of a population of 106,741,426 households, homosexuals represent 0.42% of those households.  That is less than one half of one percent! 

Or this report:The most widely accepted study of sexual practices in the United States is the National Health and Social Life Survey (NHSLS).  The NHSLS found that 2.8% of the male, and 1.4% of the female population identify themselves as gay, lesbian, or bisexual (Laumann, et al., 1994). 

So,Tauber,please try reporting your source, or I will just consider, that you are just recovering from self hate and tht is no fun.

Answer, gays are attracted to the priesthood, teaching children, and yot groups. Now, according to NAMBLA, those are the groups that they need to target to get a children. 95% of Catholic priest abuse cases were homosexual pedophile Catholic priest child abuse cases, well I guess NAMBLA was on its agenda.

Funny thing, even straight men in prison will kill, maime, and severly injure hetero pedophile, so why the homosexual denial and protection of this group that exists within the gay and homosexual community?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tara, you are such a liar. The FDC does have many concersn, manufacturing and food yes, but pedophilia no.</p>
<p>First, I guess it was you looking at me in the park, since you like females. And as for me, if I was looking at a cheerleader, it must have been my daughter. Mothers and daughters spend time together. BUt,on hte other hand, stop drooling over my daughter.</p>
<p>The so-called authority on pedophilia is the APA. You obviously do not know that it means American Psychiatric Assn.</p>
<p>The American Psychiatric Association (APA) is working toward full<br />
normalization of pedophilia and pederasty. Dr Fred Berlin of Johns Hopkins<br />
is a main spokesman for the &#8220;normality&#8221; of pedophilia and pederasty, they<br />
just shouldn&#8217;t &#8220;act on it.&#8221; This is the third &#8220;intellectual&#8221; and medical<br />
generation building on Kinsey&#8217;s fraudulent child abuse data used to destroy<br />
laws protecting women and children via the American Law Institute in 1955.<br />
Judith Reisman, Ph.D.</p>
<p>Eugene Abel also found that non-incarcerated &#8220;child molesters admitted from 23.4 to 281.7 acts per offender … whose targets were males.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;The rate of homosexual versus heterosexual child sexual abuse is staggering,&#8221; said Reisman, who was the principal investigator for an $800,000 Justice Department grant studying child pornography and violence. &#8220;Abel’s data of 150.2 boys abused per male homosexual offender finds no equal (yet) in heterosexual violations of 19.8 girls.&#8221; </p>
<p>Gene Gauber, I will use the 2000 US Census report:The 2000 census sheds even more light on the subject.  The overall statistics from the 2000 Census Bureau revealed:<br />
The total population of the U.S. is 285,230,516.<br />
The total number of households in the U.S. is 106,741,426.<br />
The total number of unmarried same-sex households is 601,209.<br />
Thus, out of a population of 106,741,426 households, homosexuals represent 0.42% of those households.  That is less than one half of one percent! </p>
<p>Or this report:The most widely accepted study of sexual practices in the United States is the National Health and Social Life Survey (NHSLS).  The NHSLS found that 2.8% of the male, and 1.4% of the female population identify themselves as gay, lesbian, or bisexual (Laumann, et al., 1994). </p>
<p>So,Tauber,please try reporting your source, or I will just consider, that you are just recovering from self hate and tht is no fun.</p>
<p>Answer, gays are attracted to the priesthood, teaching children, and yot groups. Now, according to NAMBLA, those are the groups that they need to target to get a children. 95% of Catholic priest abuse cases were homosexual pedophile Catholic priest child abuse cases, well I guess NAMBLA was on its agenda.</p>
<p>Funny thing, even straight men in prison will kill, maime, and severly injure hetero pedophile, so why the homosexual denial and protection of this group that exists within the gay and homosexual community?</p>
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		<title>By: Gene Tauber</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/news/report-homosexuality-no-factor-in-abusive-priests/comment-page-2/#comment-77542</link>
		<dc:creator>Gene Tauber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My dear 666: you are wrong on so many levels that one hardly knows where to begin. But here&#039;s a hint: you lose all credibility when you invent &quot;facts&quot; to support your hate. 

Depending on definitions and reporting methodology, 3-8% of people are homosexual.  Studies by the church and a few of its church-run universities have indicated that 25-40% of priests are homosexual. What is it about the priesthood that it attracts up to 10 times as many homosexuals as one would expect to find? If you&#039;re looking for &quot;blame,&quot; it&#039;s not to be found in homosexuality, but rather in the priesthood itself.

But all of that is beside the point anyway. The simple fact is that there is a fundamental difference between the impulse to sexually molest a child and a person&#039;s innate sexual orientation.  The majority of men who abuse boys are heterosexual. Plain and simple. Study after study has shown that, now including one commissioned by the church itself.  By saying that 95% of priest abuse victims were boys means that 95% of priests are gay is ludicrous.  The study also showed that even homosexual priests who were molesters were less likely to be repeat offenders than their heterosexual counterparts. 

But, it&#039;s fun to hate gay people, isn&#039;t it?  We&#039;re easy targets for all of society&#039;s ills.  The bishops had previously tried to tie as many molestation cases to the &quot;problem&quot; of homosexuality as they could to shift the focus from their own horrendous actions in managing sick and criminal priests in their charge.  They set up witch hunts and pogroms in the seminaries to cleanse the church of the homosexual scourge.  Now their own researchers, using the church&#039;s own data have reported little correlation between homosexual orientation and the impulse to be a molester.  Whom can they find to blame next? They will certainly never point the finger to themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My dear 666: you are wrong on so many levels that one hardly knows where to begin. But here&#8217;s a hint: you lose all credibility when you invent &#8220;facts&#8221; to support your hate. </p>
<p>Depending on definitions and reporting methodology, 3-8% of people are homosexual.  Studies by the church and a few of its church-run universities have indicated that 25-40% of priests are homosexual. What is it about the priesthood that it attracts up to 10 times as many homosexuals as one would expect to find? If you&#8217;re looking for &#8220;blame,&#8221; it&#8217;s not to be found in homosexuality, but rather in the priesthood itself.</p>
<p>But all of that is beside the point anyway. The simple fact is that there is a fundamental difference between the impulse to sexually molest a child and a person&#8217;s innate sexual orientation.  The majority of men who abuse boys are heterosexual. Plain and simple. Study after study has shown that, now including one commissioned by the church itself.  By saying that 95% of priest abuse victims were boys means that 95% of priests are gay is ludicrous.  The study also showed that even homosexual priests who were molesters were less likely to be repeat offenders than their heterosexual counterparts. </p>
<p>But, it&#8217;s fun to hate gay people, isn&#8217;t it?  We&#8217;re easy targets for all of society&#8217;s ills.  The bishops had previously tried to tie as many molestation cases to the &#8220;problem&#8221; of homosexuality as they could to shift the focus from their own horrendous actions in managing sick and criminal priests in their charge.  They set up witch hunts and pogroms in the seminaries to cleanse the church of the homosexual scourge.  Now their own researchers, using the church&#8217;s own data have reported little correlation between homosexual orientation and the impulse to be a molester.  Whom can they find to blame next? They will certainly never point the finger to themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Tara</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/news/report-homosexuality-no-factor-in-abusive-priests/comment-page-2/#comment-77495</link>
		<dc:creator>Tara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually gay365 troll you are wrong you are make up whateve logic and lies you wish. There have been many studies done by the FDC has show that straight men are 11 times more likely to abuse children as homosexuals.  

So based on that information then there is that means that for ever gay priest there are 11 straight ones that molest children.  So your data is faulty.

Actual the FDC also has reported that pedophile thoughts are normal for straight men as well and as I have pointed out the straight mens porn fantasies of girls in thier little catholic school uniforms and cheerleaders.  Lets face it 20/20 has done number of shows where they cathch 20 to thirty straight men wanting sex with a 12, 13 and 14 year old girls.  Hell in many states they still have laws on the books that allow parents to wed their 13 year old daughter to anyone they wish.  Proving that straight men have desires for young virginal young girls.  

The 95% figure, of yours is BS of the firs order.  And you are quoting Paul Cameron which his studies have been thrown out as garbage.  Like your and your opinions.  You have no facts. 

Actually 95% of child molestor indentify with hetrosexual orination not homesexual and they attack both girls and boys.  They attack boys because they are lest likely to report the abuse.  Get your facts straight and use a relaible and proven source of material.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually gay365 troll you are wrong you are make up whateve logic and lies you wish. There have been many studies done by the FDC has show that straight men are 11 times more likely to abuse children as homosexuals.  </p>
<p>So based on that information then there is that means that for ever gay priest there are 11 straight ones that molest children.  So your data is faulty.</p>
<p>Actual the FDC also has reported that pedophile thoughts are normal for straight men as well and as I have pointed out the straight mens porn fantasies of girls in thier little catholic school uniforms and cheerleaders.  Lets face it 20/20 has done number of shows where they cathch 20 to thirty straight men wanting sex with a 12, 13 and 14 year old girls.  Hell in many states they still have laws on the books that allow parents to wed their 13 year old daughter to anyone they wish.  Proving that straight men have desires for young virginal young girls.  </p>
<p>The 95% figure, of yours is BS of the firs order.  And you are quoting Paul Cameron which his studies have been thrown out as garbage.  Like your and your opinions.  You have no facts. </p>
<p>Actually 95% of child molestor indentify with hetrosexual orination not homesexual and they attack both girls and boys.  They attack boys because they are lest likely to report the abuse.  Get your facts straight and use a relaible and proven source of material.</p>
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		<title>By: Facebook User</title>
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		<dc:creator>Facebook User</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi readers,

I&#039;d be happy to ban &quot;366gay&quot; and other homophobic trolls - but you all do such a good job of calling them out, that it seems better to leave you to it. 

We all know the comments from this user are ridiculous, and sometimes funny. But I&#039;m still trying to get a sense of when to pull users like this. What line do they need to cross? Thoughts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi readers,</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be happy to ban &#8220;366gay&#8221; and other homophobic trolls &#8211; but you all do such a good job of calling them out, that it seems better to leave you to it. </p>
<p>We all know the comments from this user are ridiculous, and sometimes funny. But I&#8217;m still trying to get a sense of when to pull users like this. What line do they need to cross? Thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: 366gay</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/news/report-homosexuality-no-factor-in-abusive-priests/comment-page-2/#comment-77457</link>
		<dc:creator>366gay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TTTTom, yes we agree, pederasty and pedophilia are the same.

DaveW, I say no such thing. If you have a beef with the APA then start with their decision to remove homosexuality from the DSM disease code as a mental disorder. 

It was this same APA, who in June 2009, said that all homosexual men engage in peodphile thought, and concluded that it was normal sexual fantasy. They did not say lesbians. 

Don&#039;t hate me, hate the facts.

Tara: you make up whateve logic you wish. The APA did not say all men, or straight men, they said that pedophile thoughts are normal for gayh men and all of them have them.

The 95% figure,is documented as 95% homosexual acts against children by homosexual peophile Catholic priests.

Only 95% of these child molestations were heterosexual molestations against girls.

Now, if you wish to make a bet, put your $1,000 dollars up. The Laumann 1994 report from NHSLS reported that the average lesbian has had five times as many male partners as straight females. Now, if that is not you, then it was you and others who drove down the average.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TTTTom, yes we agree, pederasty and pedophilia are the same.</p>
<p>DaveW, I say no such thing. If you have a beef with the APA then start with their decision to remove homosexuality from the DSM disease code as a mental disorder. </p>
<p>It was this same APA, who in June 2009, said that all homosexual men engage in peodphile thought, and concluded that it was normal sexual fantasy. They did not say lesbians. </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t hate me, hate the facts.</p>
<p>Tara: you make up whateve logic you wish. The APA did not say all men, or straight men, they said that pedophile thoughts are normal for gayh men and all of them have them.</p>
<p>The 95% figure,is documented as 95% homosexual acts against children by homosexual peophile Catholic priests.</p>
<p>Only 95% of these child molestations were heterosexual molestations against girls.</p>
<p>Now, if you wish to make a bet, put your $1,000 dollars up. The Laumann 1994 report from NHSLS reported that the average lesbian has had five times as many male partners as straight females. Now, if that is not you, then it was you and others who drove down the average.</p>
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		<title>By: Tara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gay365 and other trolls.

If we use your logic then i can state this that 95% of straight men are interested and fantasy about sex with teenage and little girls.

That right I bet your and your straight buddies spent hours with your hand down your pants watching the little girls on the playgrounds, those bouncing cheerleaders, and all those little girls in their little cute little skirt uniforms.

I have seen you straight men watching those girls and it is so very obvious what you are thinking about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gay365 and other trolls.</p>
<p>If we use your logic then i can state this that 95% of straight men are interested and fantasy about sex with teenage and little girls.</p>
<p>That right I bet your and your straight buddies spent hours with your hand down your pants watching the little girls on the playgrounds, those bouncing cheerleaders, and all those little girls in their little cute little skirt uniforms.</p>
<p>I have seen you straight men watching those girls and it is so very obvious what you are thinking about.</p>
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		<title>By: DaveW</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaveW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>666:  I too can&#039;t figure out why you are obsessing on a gay site.  How is it relevant to you?

Also, funny you say we all fantasize about boys.  Maybe because you do?  I don&#039;t, never have (can&#039;t stand children)...and every gay man I&#039;ve asked has confirmed.

That is just stupid.  we are into men.  Some of us big burly men, some skinny little fems...but men.  If we were into kids, we wouldn&#039;t be gay, there are other categories for pigs like that.

As far as the roman cult saying sex is for procreation, I just wish their members would actually look at the beliefs of the cult they have joined.  I think people just fall into this cultish sickness.

Just for procreation?  They should at least be intellectually honest:  They desire for sex to be just for that, they teach that it should be reserved for just that (they don&#039;t actually teach that...I believe they teach sex is a duty between man/wife so they can bond as one body), or they want their followers to believe it.

Those are all desires the church has.  One need only look at human history briefly, and in fact animal behavior too, to see sex is for pleasure and it happens to create kids for some people.

Of course, they make this claim to give them cover in the anti marriage debate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>666:  I too can&#8217;t figure out why you are obsessing on a gay site.  How is it relevant to you?</p>
<p>Also, funny you say we all fantasize about boys.  Maybe because you do?  I don&#8217;t, never have (can&#8217;t stand children)&#8230;and every gay man I&#8217;ve asked has confirmed.</p>
<p>That is just stupid.  we are into men.  Some of us big burly men, some skinny little fems&#8230;but men.  If we were into kids, we wouldn&#8217;t be gay, there are other categories for pigs like that.</p>
<p>As far as the roman cult saying sex is for procreation, I just wish their members would actually look at the beliefs of the cult they have joined.  I think people just fall into this cultish sickness.</p>
<p>Just for procreation?  They should at least be intellectually honest:  They desire for sex to be just for that, they teach that it should be reserved for just that (they don&#8217;t actually teach that&#8230;I believe they teach sex is a duty between man/wife so they can bond as one body), or they want their followers to believe it.</p>
<p>Those are all desires the church has.  One need only look at human history briefly, and in fact animal behavior too, to see sex is for pleasure and it happens to create kids for some people.</p>
<p>Of course, they make this claim to give them cover in the anti marriage debate.</p>
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