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		<title>By: jessieka</title>
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		<dc:creator>jessieka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 02:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thfact that most people dont know how much segragation &amp; lack of basic rights dont ask dont tell affects on &quot;private&quot; time.
They cant adopt as a couple!
They cant regester domestic partnership.
Have a filed will with survivorship of partner.
This bloody ridduclouse.We can never win.
The best out would be if all the troops called in gay!
It would either end the bs war or end the bs policy either way would reduce the bs!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thfact that most people dont know how much segragation &amp; lack of basic rights dont ask dont tell affects on &#8220;private&#8221; time.<br />
They cant adopt as a couple!<br />
They cant regester domestic partnership.<br />
Have a filed will with survivorship of partner.<br />
This bloody ridduclouse.We can never win.<br />
The best out would be if all the troops called in gay!<br />
It would either end the bs war or end the bs policy either way would reduce the bs!</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Said: &quot;OBummer is an O-REpublican-O&quot;

I clearly need a new user name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Said: &#8220;OBummer is an O-REpublican-O&#8221;</p>
<p>I clearly need a new user name.</p>
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		<title>By: George in Seattle</title>
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		<dc:creator>George in Seattle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 20:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that we should not be donating, but we also need to let him know why.  During the campaign on the day Obama came out as not supporting equal marriage I had a contribution in the envelope with the stamp already on it... I not only did not mail it, but sent an Email to his campaign explaining why he was no longer getting my financial support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that we should not be donating, but we also need to let him know why.  During the campaign on the day Obama came out as not supporting equal marriage I had a contribution in the envelope with the stamp already on it&#8230; I not only did not mail it, but sent an Email to his campaign explaining why he was no longer getting my financial support.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OBummer is an O-REpublican-O</description>
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		<title>By: Morgan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 21:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What does it take to halt the discharge of a dedicated Arabic linguist? Seriously, how many non-Arab Americans can speak Arabic fluently and how many non-Persian American can speak Farsi (the official language of Iran)fluently? Or how many non-Afghan Americans can speak Dari or Pashto (the 2 official languages of Afghanistan) fluently?

I don&#039;t recall studying any of these languages in elementary or senior high school years ago.

We put our military at grave risk by tossing away people with this kind of hard to come by knowledge, just to suit an outdated and outmoded policy.

Obama, wake up and smell the coffee. Time to call a halt to this lunacy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does it take to halt the discharge of a dedicated Arabic linguist? Seriously, how many non-Arab Americans can speak Arabic fluently and how many non-Persian American can speak Farsi (the official language of Iran)fluently? Or how many non-Afghan Americans can speak Dari or Pashto (the 2 official languages of Afghanistan) fluently?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t recall studying any of these languages in elementary or senior high school years ago.</p>
<p>We put our military at grave risk by tossing away people with this kind of hard to come by knowledge, just to suit an outdated and outmoded policy.</p>
<p>Obama, wake up and smell the coffee. Time to call a halt to this lunacy.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 05:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Older I get, the more I feel this Country better days are no longer ahead. As we all know, (or should know) People will say or do anything to be elected. We will just see what comes out of their mouths for re-election. Better yet we will see how many DUMB, Moran Americans fall for it, Vote for them again. American better wake up. We wonder where all the jobs are. They are going away, an not coming back. People want us to stay away from buying American built cars. Thats has to be one of the stupidist Ideas yet. Next time your at a light. LOOK (That be a first) at the cars around you. How many American Cars do you see. One or two, to 20 imports. We American are doing this to are Selves. Jobs are going, going, gone. We did it, to ourselves. Next time you go into a store, any store. Look at the label. Where is it made? Not Here. So lets see. We want to import our goods, we want to import forien works to do what is left. China is the Richest Country in the World. Why? Do think they import all there needs. STOP. Think about your future, You are not going to have one. It is high time, if not to late, to take control back of our Country. It was us Americans that caused GM &amp; Chrysler to fail. If a person is running for office, we need to hold their feet to the fire when they don&#039;t keep their word. 
We also had seperation of Church &amp; State. But the Church won&#039;t stay on their side. Soon we will be like Iran. The Church will be running our Country. I for one hope I am dead before that happens. I would love to see churches be taxed on all their assets. We Gay Americans don&#039;t stand up for our rights. We will never have them. I should have the same rights as my neighbor does. If I don&#039;t we (Americans) have a big problem. It is time to stand up and be counted. NO More laying down, playing dead. There is no room in our goverment to be involve with who we are, who we want to be married to. Soon the Goverment and Church will be checking our beds to see who we are sleeping with. Only we the people can but a stop to this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Older I get, the more I feel this Country better days are no longer ahead. As we all know, (or should know) People will say or do anything to be elected. We will just see what comes out of their mouths for re-election. Better yet we will see how many DUMB, Moran Americans fall for it, Vote for them again. American better wake up. We wonder where all the jobs are. They are going away, an not coming back. People want us to stay away from buying American built cars. Thats has to be one of the stupidist Ideas yet. Next time your at a light. LOOK (That be a first) at the cars around you. How many American Cars do you see. One or two, to 20 imports. We American are doing this to are Selves. Jobs are going, going, gone. We did it, to ourselves. Next time you go into a store, any store. Look at the label. Where is it made? Not Here. So lets see. We want to import our goods, we want to import forien works to do what is left. China is the Richest Country in the World. Why? Do think they import all there needs. STOP. Think about your future, You are not going to have one. It is high time, if not to late, to take control back of our Country. It was us Americans that caused GM &amp; Chrysler to fail. If a person is running for office, we need to hold their feet to the fire when they don&#8217;t keep their word.<br />
We also had seperation of Church &amp; State. But the Church won&#8217;t stay on their side. Soon we will be like Iran. The Church will be running our Country. I for one hope I am dead before that happens. I would love to see churches be taxed on all their assets. We Gay Americans don&#8217;t stand up for our rights. We will never have them. I should have the same rights as my neighbor does. If I don&#8217;t we (Americans) have a big problem. It is time to stand up and be counted. NO More laying down, playing dead. There is no room in our goverment to be involve with who we are, who we want to be married to. Soon the Goverment and Church will be checking our beds to see who we are sleeping with. Only we the people can but a stop to this.</p>
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		<title>By: Morgan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 04:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justice Department comparing marriage equality with incest? Has the Justice Department taken leave of its senses?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justice Department comparing marriage equality with incest? Has the Justice Department taken leave of its senses?</p>
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		<title>By: Frankly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frankly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 20:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We should contribute and fully fund LGBT politicians running for National Office. Screw the rest of them. Let us show them how our money can work and who it can elect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We should contribute and fully fund LGBT politicians running for National Office. Screw the rest of them. Let us show them how our money can work and who it can elect.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerry Fisher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gerry Fisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;We just understand the difference between fighting for rights and childishly demanding to be exemplified.

Yhitzak, you GO, girl! :-)

I&#039;ve been arrested for standing up for gay rights. I&#039;ve hit the streets. And written letters, and more. I&#039;ve worked. I&#039;m feeling pretty secure about my political resume.

We just disagree on what would work best at this stage of the fight. No need to call me an Uncle Tom and demand that I die or get my eyeballs plucked out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;We just understand the difference between fighting for rights and childishly demanding to be exemplified.</p>
<p>Yhitzak, you GO, girl! <img src='http://www.365gay.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been arrested for standing up for gay rights. I&#8217;ve hit the streets. And written letters, and more. I&#8217;ve worked. I&#8217;m feeling pretty secure about my political resume.</p>
<p>We just disagree on what would work best at this stage of the fight. No need to call me an Uncle Tom and demand that I die or get my eyeballs plucked out.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerry Fisher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gerry Fisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the things that frustrates me about modern information distribution and journalism is its tendency to create or intensify news rather than report it.

For example, for the past few weeks, this website has published between 6 and 10 articles that featured our community&#039;s discontent with the Obama administration in general and specifically the Justice Department brief in CA. Today&#039;s news is a good example. It wasn&#039;t good enough to have one article about Joe Biden putting out the administration&#039;s point of view, an article that documented the community&#039;s discontent. It had to have this *second* article to talk about how pissed off we all are.

Drum beat: we&#039;re pissed off, we&#039;re pissed off, We&#039;re Pissed Off, WE&#039;RE PISSED OFF! Read it, discuss it, and repeat it often enough, and it starts to stir up and intensify those feelings.

Are the articles creating more pissed off feelings than they were originally reporting on?

And how about accuracy? Check this out:

&gt;...compared gay marriages to incest.

Anyone who has read the original Justice Department brief in the CA case knows that this is not true.

What *is* true is that the brief made a point that there is existing case law supporting a state not having to accept automatically the laws that exist in another state, if the other state&#039;s laws go against their values. So far, so good, right? Here&#039;s where it went haywire...the case that they cited in parentheses to support this valid legal notion was a case from Connecticut in which that state refused to recognize a marriage from Italy in which an Uncle married his niece, which was legal at the time in Italy.

Was the Justice Department guilty of something? Yes! They were grossly insensitive not to realize that our community has been hammered with comparisons to or accusations of incest and pedophila, and a sensitive administration should not do anything to further that stereotype. They should have found another case that illustrated &quot;states rights not to recognize other state&#039;s laws.&quot; 

But did they say that gay marriage was comparable to incest just like our worst enemies do? NO!

So, stop repeating this lie.

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There have been hundreds of thousands of deaths in Iraq--if you include their citizens, which I think we should--in large part because a lazy media fueled an emotional hissy fit in the general public. &quot;Iraq has weapons of mass destruction!!!&quot; &quot;Hussein is in cahoots with Al Queda!&quot; These ideas were repeated ad nauseum in the media for about a year leading up to the Iraq war, and the American public picked it up, parroted it, and supported the war based on it.

...and it was wrong.

As of the 2004 election--more than a year after the start of the Iraq war--more than 50% of those polled believed that Hussein had a role in 9/11.

Call me crazy, but I&#039;d like to think that the gay community can do better than that. Don&#039;t succumb to group think. Don&#039;t succumb to fear/anger mongering. That kind of group think is, at best, not very effective; at worst, it kills people...sometimes LOTS of people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the things that frustrates me about modern information distribution and journalism is its tendency to create or intensify news rather than report it.</p>
<p>For example, for the past few weeks, this website has published between 6 and 10 articles that featured our community&#8217;s discontent with the Obama administration in general and specifically the Justice Department brief in CA. Today&#8217;s news is a good example. It wasn&#8217;t good enough to have one article about Joe Biden putting out the administration&#8217;s point of view, an article that documented the community&#8217;s discontent. It had to have this *second* article to talk about how pissed off we all are.</p>
<p>Drum beat: we&#8217;re pissed off, we&#8217;re pissed off, We&#8217;re Pissed Off, WE&#8217;RE PISSED OFF! Read it, discuss it, and repeat it often enough, and it starts to stir up and intensify those feelings.</p>
<p>Are the articles creating more pissed off feelings than they were originally reporting on?</p>
<p>And how about accuracy? Check this out:</p>
<p>&gt;&#8230;compared gay marriages to incest.</p>
<p>Anyone who has read the original Justice Department brief in the CA case knows that this is not true.</p>
<p>What *is* true is that the brief made a point that there is existing case law supporting a state not having to accept automatically the laws that exist in another state, if the other state&#8217;s laws go against their values. So far, so good, right? Here&#8217;s where it went haywire&#8230;the case that they cited in parentheses to support this valid legal notion was a case from Connecticut in which that state refused to recognize a marriage from Italy in which an Uncle married his niece, which was legal at the time in Italy.</p>
<p>Was the Justice Department guilty of something? Yes! They were grossly insensitive not to realize that our community has been hammered with comparisons to or accusations of incest and pedophila, and a sensitive administration should not do anything to further that stereotype. They should have found another case that illustrated &#8220;states rights not to recognize other state&#8217;s laws.&#8221; </p>
<p>But did they say that gay marriage was comparable to incest just like our worst enemies do? NO!</p>
<p>So, stop repeating this lie.</p>
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<p>There have been hundreds of thousands of deaths in Iraq&#8211;if you include their citizens, which I think we should&#8211;in large part because a lazy media fueled an emotional hissy fit in the general public. &#8220;Iraq has weapons of mass destruction!!!&#8221; &#8220;Hussein is in cahoots with Al Queda!&#8221; These ideas were repeated ad nauseum in the media for about a year leading up to the Iraq war, and the American public picked it up, parroted it, and supported the war based on it.</p>
<p>&#8230;and it was wrong.</p>
<p>As of the 2004 election&#8211;more than a year after the start of the Iraq war&#8211;more than 50% of those polled believed that Hussein had a role in 9/11.</p>
<p>Call me crazy, but I&#8217;d like to think that the gay community can do better than that. Don&#8217;t succumb to group think. Don&#8217;t succumb to fear/anger mongering. That kind of group think is, at best, not very effective; at worst, it kills people&#8230;sometimes LOTS of people.</p>
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