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	<title>Comments on: Presbyterians explore civil unions</title>
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		<title>By: SteveMD2</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/news/presbyterians-explore-civil-unions/comment-page-1/#comment-44443</link>
		<dc:creator>SteveMD2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 09:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, this, in the real world is progress. And i thought this was the more conservative branch of the Presbyterian church.

Gonna take time folks.  But all of this, especially the &quot;The denomination already allows ministers to bless same-sex unions, but the ceremonies can’t mimic marriage ceremonies.&quot; is big time progress.  Ultimately, we&#039;ll have most of the Jewish Reform and conservatives, UU, MCC, UCC, Episcopal, Evang. Lutherans, Presbyterians on the side of Justice in one form or another.

And the Catholic monstosity in Rome (lots of Cath churches support gay people quietly), the Mormons, and the worst of the worst - the southern baptists and their fascist non-denominational christian ilk will be the talk of the town.  While hopefully their membership will decline, decline decline.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, this, in the real world is progress. And i thought this was the more conservative branch of the Presbyterian church.</p>
<p>Gonna take time folks.  But all of this, especially the &#8220;The denomination already allows ministers to bless same-sex unions, but the ceremonies can’t mimic marriage ceremonies.&#8221; is big time progress.  Ultimately, we&#8217;ll have most of the Jewish Reform and conservatives, UU, MCC, UCC, Episcopal, Evang. Lutherans, Presbyterians on the side of Justice in one form or another.</p>
<p>And the Catholic monstosity in Rome (lots of Cath churches support gay people quietly), the Mormons, and the worst of the worst &#8211; the southern baptists and their fascist non-denominational christian ilk will be the talk of the town.  While hopefully their membership will decline, decline decline.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/news/presbyterians-explore-civil-unions/comment-page-1/#comment-43483</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 14:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Civil Union&quot; by definition has nothing to do with religion.  As per usual, some religious folk are seriously confused.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Civil Union&#8221; by definition has nothing to do with religion.  As per usual, some religious folk are seriously confused.</p>
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		<title>By: Morgan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 22:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Civil marriage is nothing but a legal contract back up by the secular laws of the state.

People are free to choose who marries and them and where. A justice of the peace, mayor and/or others authorized and empowered by the laws of the local state works for some. A church, synagogue, etc is preferred by others but not necessary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Civil marriage is nothing but a legal contract back up by the secular laws of the state.</p>
<p>People are free to choose who marries and them and where. A justice of the peace, mayor and/or others authorized and empowered by the laws of the local state works for some. A church, synagogue, etc is preferred by others but not necessary.</p>
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		<title>By: Bud Burgoon-Clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bud Burgoon-Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 21:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Religious organizations have no business &quot;debating&quot; or &quot;studying&quot; CIVIL marriage. It&#039;s none of their BUSINESS. Let them decide whether or not to bestow the blessings of the RELIGIOUS Sacrament of Matrimony on their members, or not, but that SHOULD have NOTHING to do with the STATE&#039;S function as the registrar of CIVIL marriages.

To do otherwise is to FURTHER entangle the State in Church-State relations. I don&#039;t think the Catholics and the Mormons want to see SECULAR laws regulating THEIR *other* &quot;sacraments.&quot; 

Although ... *I&#039;d* vote for a law barring Mormons from posthumously baptizing the ancestors of people now living who DON&#039;T want them posthumously baptized, like Jews who died in the Holocaust. That is CREEPY, not to mention a slap in the FACE to observant, believing Jews.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Religious organizations have no business &#8220;debating&#8221; or &#8220;studying&#8221; CIVIL marriage. It&#8217;s none of their BUSINESS. Let them decide whether or not to bestow the blessings of the RELIGIOUS Sacrament of Matrimony on their members, or not, but that SHOULD have NOTHING to do with the STATE&#8217;S function as the registrar of CIVIL marriages.</p>
<p>To do otherwise is to FURTHER entangle the State in Church-State relations. I don&#8217;t think the Catholics and the Mormons want to see SECULAR laws regulating THEIR *other* &#8220;sacraments.&#8221; </p>
<p>Although &#8230; *I&#8217;d* vote for a law barring Mormons from posthumously baptizing the ancestors of people now living who DON&#8217;T want them posthumously baptized, like Jews who died in the Holocaust. That is CREEPY, not to mention a slap in the FACE to observant, believing Jews.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Holmes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Holmes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 21:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lets make marriage legal for everyone</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lets make marriage legal for everyone</p>
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