Comments on: Polls Show Anti-Gay Amendments Gaining In FL, CA

By: JManSF

JManSF — Tue, 14 Oct 2008 23:01:58 +0000

Robert,
The court did not actually reject the claim regarding constitutionality of the amendment only not to consider it at the time because of the following previous key ruling of the court:

* The courts will not intervene prior to an election to settle the issue of constitutionality (Brosnahan v. Eu, 1982).

Hope that clears it up.

By: Trace

Trace — Sat, 11 Oct 2008 18:13:31 +0000

Thanks Babs. Glad you didn’t wait until there were 3 weeks before the vote to hold a fundraiser.

…. Oh wait, she did.

By: Chris Sullivan

Chris Sullivan — Sat, 11 Oct 2008 17:43:21 +0000

NEW: Barbra Streisand is honorary chair of Oct. 21 fundraiser in Beverly Hills to gather funds for “No. on 8″. Melissa Etheridge will perform.

By: John

John — Sat, 11 Oct 2008 05:03:00 +0000

Morgan,

For those who can afford it, I would recommend Cape Town as well. Physically, it has been compared to Sydney and San Francisco. But I think the “Mother City” has a unique energy you just don’t find in the West. Due to the efforts of Mandela and Tutu, the legal situation for gays is comparable to Western Europe. And Cape Town, in particular, is very liberal.

Besides, South Africa is basically your only chance to see this fascinating continent without being harassed by small-minded dictators and their homophobic minions. I’ve always wanted to see Egypt, for example, but the creepy Islamic fundamentalism has kept me away.

By: Morgan

Morgan — Sat, 11 Oct 2008 03:08:18 +0000

John, I have been to Canada any number of times adn I won’t hesitate to take my vacation dollars there or elsewhere. I have good friends in Nova Scotia and I’ve beeen to Victoria and Vancouver Island in British Columbia. These are great places to vacation and I recommend them. I have been to Iceland and to Scandinavia and Finland, Switzerland and Germany. Nice, advanced and officially gay-friendly countries.

If USA goes totally sour, I’ll take my vacation dollars out of the USA when I have time and money to do so.

Connecticut just bacame the 3rd gay marriage state in the USA this morning, way to go Connecticut! (my birthsate)

By: Robert

Robert — Sat, 11 Oct 2008 03:02:04 +0000

JManSF…

Thank you for your post. It gave me hope. But then I remembered that a gay group in CA already tried to get the Supreme Court to throw the amendment out, claiming that it was a constitutional revision, and the court rejected that claim.

By: Eddie89

Eddie89 — Sat, 11 Oct 2008 01:13:15 +0000

The Governator did speak publically about the decision the following day after the California State Supreme Court issued it's ruling on same-gender marriage. Here's a quote from the San Francisco Chronicle:

In a meeting with The Chronicle's editorial board on Friday, Schwarzenegger was asked to clarify his position. "First, I have always said that for me, marriage is between a man and a woman," he said. Then he added: "But I don't want to make everyone else go in that direction." Schwarzenegger said he vetoed same-sex marriage legislation because he felt the Legislature shouldn't override voter-approved Proposition 22, which had defined marriage as between a man and a woman and was nullified by the high court on Thursday. However, the governor said he doesn't necessarily feel the same when it comes to the Supreme Court overturning a statute enacted by a voter initiative. "When the people vote, people are not legal experts, constitutional experts or any of that," he said. "I think that's why we have the courts. People may vote with good intentions, but then the court says, 'This is not constitutional.' "It's not that the court interferes with the will of the people," he added. "But the court says, 'You voted for something, but it's not constitutionally right, so let's rework this.' That's really the idea."

Not too bad, considering. California - Vote "NO" on Prop. 8!
Arizona - Vote "NO" on Prop. 102! AGAIN!
Florida - Vote "NO" on Amendment 2!

By: Robert

Robert — Sat, 11 Oct 2008 00:41:13 +0000

Forget Obama making comments… what about Arnold Schwartzenneger? For months I’ve read that he pledged himself to fight this amendment, and to date I have not heard or read of him making a single statement against the amendment. Where is he?

By: barb

barb — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 19:54:24 +0000

How would you heterosexuals feel if WE were voting YOUR rights away? Such a simple thing, humanity. Why must we make anyone different the “bad other” … so childish. “Tick tock, the game is locked, no one else can play but us. If they do, we’ll take off our shoe. …” ha!
If you don’t believe in gay marriage, DON’T HAVE ONE! Leave the rest of us in peace. It is hard to understand that the so-called churches are teaching such terrible lessons to their sheep – but I guess it keeps them under control – right where the church wants them. Makes things so much easier when someone tells you how to think, eh? Baaaaaaa.

By: JohnM

JohnM — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 16:27:16 +0000

Just in from Advocate.com:
The Connecticut Supreme Court issued a 4-3 decision in favor of eight gay couples who were the plaintiffs in Kerrigan & Mock v. the Connecticut Department of Public Health, effectively legalizing same-sex marriage in the state. Connecticut will now become the third state in the country behind Massachusetts and California where gay couples are allowed equal access to marriage. Similar to California and Massachusetts, out of state couples will be eligible to marry in Connecticut.