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		<title>By: JohnM</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 06:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I voted for Clinton in the primary, as I thought (and still do) that she would make the best President out of all the candidates, Democratic, Republican, Liberterian, or otherwise.  I even donated $$$ on several occasions to her campaign.  I was a strong Clinton supporter.

I now strongly support Senator Obama for President because I think he is the best  candidate, Democratic, Republican, Independent or otherwise.  In my view, policy positions trump likability every time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I voted for Clinton in the primary, as I thought (and still do) that she would make the best President out of all the candidates, Democratic, Republican, Liberterian, or otherwise.  I even donated $$$ on several occasions to her campaign.  I was a strong Clinton supporter.</p>
<p>I now strongly support Senator Obama for President because I think he is the best  candidate, Democratic, Republican, Independent or otherwise.  In my view, policy positions trump likability every time.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 03:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Xman,

Do you honestly think those threats are going to work? If Obama loses, the Democratic Party is as dead as the dodo in 2012. 

When every issue&#039;s going your way and you still lose, then you certainly won&#039;t win after the Republicans have returned to the good graces of the American people with more tax cuts and wars. And please don&#039;t blame it on Palin&#039;s &quot;genius.&quot; You guys are just no good at politics. Maybe you should spare yourself the humilation of pretending you&#039;re an opposition party of any significance. Disband and join the Whigs in political Tartarus. Let the Greens and Libertarians have a go at the GOP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Xman,</p>
<p>Do you honestly think those threats are going to work? If Obama loses, the Democratic Party is as dead as the dodo in 2012. </p>
<p>When every issue&#8217;s going your way and you still lose, then you certainly won&#8217;t win after the Republicans have returned to the good graces of the American people with more tax cuts and wars. And please don&#8217;t blame it on Palin&#8217;s &#8220;genius.&#8221; You guys are just no good at politics. Maybe you should spare yourself the humilation of pretending you&#8217;re an opposition party of any significance. Disband and join the Whigs in political Tartarus. Let the Greens and Libertarians have a go at the GOP.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerry Fisher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gerry Fisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama&#039;s and Palin&#039;s experience levels are equivalent? No.

Obama: Years as a community organizer, first black editor of the Harvard Law Review, create a voter registration drive that registers 150,000 new voters, spend twelve years as a constitutional law professor, spend eight years as a state senator representing a district with more than 750,000 people, become chairman of his state senate&#039;s Health and Human Services Committee, spend four years as a US Senator representing a state of thirteen million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs, Environment, and Public Works and Veteran Affairs committees.

Palin: local weatherman, four years on the city council, six years as mayor of a town with fewer than 7,000 people, twenty months as governor of a state with 650,000 people.

And, if someone wants us to have faith that they can be the &quot;leader of the free world,&quot; then they *should* be someone elite (meaning &quot;the best&quot;) and have a confidence that will come across to some as &quot;arrogant.&quot; Running for president, is, by definition, arrogant, IMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama&#8217;s and Palin&#8217;s experience levels are equivalent? No.</p>
<p>Obama: Years as a community organizer, first black editor of the Harvard Law Review, create a voter registration drive that registers 150,000 new voters, spend twelve years as a constitutional law professor, spend eight years as a state senator representing a district with more than 750,000 people, become chairman of his state senate&#8217;s Health and Human Services Committee, spend four years as a US Senator representing a state of thirteen million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs, Environment, and Public Works and Veteran Affairs committees.</p>
<p>Palin: local weatherman, four years on the city council, six years as mayor of a town with fewer than 7,000 people, twenty months as governor of a state with 650,000 people.</p>
<p>And, if someone wants us to have faith that they can be the &#8220;leader of the free world,&#8221; then they *should* be someone elite (meaning &#8220;the best&#8221;) and have a confidence that will come across to some as &#8220;arrogant.&#8221; Running for president, is, by definition, arrogant, IMO.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/news/poll-obama-struggling-to-win-over-clinton-voters/comment-page-1/#comment-21906</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s interesting: If you were watching any of the coverage of both Obama and McCain talking about the economy yesterday, they sounded identical. It was as if the same scriptwriter crafted both of their speeches. So where is the difference? Besides some minor disagreements on tax policy (and they are really minor in the grand scheme of things) they are pretty much taking their playbook from the same page in terms of their ideas about &#039;fixing&#039; this current economic situation.

But really, that&#039;s such a red herring: At this point the economy is not going to be solved by any one person. Anyone who believes that is woefully uninformed or beyond naive. The current economic troubles are not the result of one administration&#039;s choices but years of unfettered growth and unregulated investment by the largest investment banking firms. If you want to blame someone look towards corporate managers and government officials who consistently take a short-term view over long. The current administration is setting up a holding company that will long be in existence and formulating economic policy well after anyone even remembers dumb-W set it up. The bureaucracy will be defining, shaping and running the economy for the next decade. 

With that said, I&#039;m a former Clinton supporter who cannot get behind Obama no matter how hard I try. If I were to vote purely on economic issues I might be able to, but his whole tepid support for gay people followed by his assumption that we&#039;ll vote for him no matter what, has really left me at an impasse. 

Hopefully I&#039;ll get over it on election day and vote for him, since deep down I know it is the right thing to do. But he&#039;s really made some mis-steps with us. With little or no effort to ameliorate the situation. This crazy &#039;families and values tour&#039; is the best example. He&#039;s pandering for social conservative votes while throwing gays and lesbians under his non-inclusive bus. How else do you explain his inclusion of a pro-prop 8 speaker on his tour (Douglas Kmiec). That to me speaks volumes about where Obama places us on his list of priorities and that is why it is so hard to cast my vote for him or put my support behind him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s interesting: If you were watching any of the coverage of both Obama and McCain talking about the economy yesterday, they sounded identical. It was as if the same scriptwriter crafted both of their speeches. So where is the difference? Besides some minor disagreements on tax policy (and they are really minor in the grand scheme of things) they are pretty much taking their playbook from the same page in terms of their ideas about &#8216;fixing&#8217; this current economic situation.</p>
<p>But really, that&#8217;s such a red herring: At this point the economy is not going to be solved by any one person. Anyone who believes that is woefully uninformed or beyond naive. The current economic troubles are not the result of one administration&#8217;s choices but years of unfettered growth and unregulated investment by the largest investment banking firms. If you want to blame someone look towards corporate managers and government officials who consistently take a short-term view over long. The current administration is setting up a holding company that will long be in existence and formulating economic policy well after anyone even remembers dumb-W set it up. The bureaucracy will be defining, shaping and running the economy for the next decade. </p>
<p>With that said, I&#8217;m a former Clinton supporter who cannot get behind Obama no matter how hard I try. If I were to vote purely on economic issues I might be able to, but his whole tepid support for gay people followed by his assumption that we&#8217;ll vote for him no matter what, has really left me at an impasse. </p>
<p>Hopefully I&#8217;ll get over it on election day and vote for him, since deep down I know it is the right thing to do. But he&#8217;s really made some mis-steps with us. With little or no effort to ameliorate the situation. This crazy &#8216;families and values tour&#8217; is the best example. He&#8217;s pandering for social conservative votes while throwing gays and lesbians under his non-inclusive bus. How else do you explain his inclusion of a pro-prop 8 speaker on his tour (Douglas Kmiec). That to me speaks volumes about where Obama places us on his list of priorities and that is why it is so hard to cast my vote for him or put my support behind him.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I COMPLETELY disagree with you.  I am a highly educated, Black male--someone who is supposed to be a perfect fit for the Obama demographic.  Yet I did not support him in the primaries and I don&#039;t support him now.  It is not fair to say that just because someone does not want to support Obama means they are racist.  Yes there are alot of racist people out there--enough to swing the election to McCain.  But to generalize Clinton supporters as racist is totally unfair.

Obama is simply not qualified to be President.  In fact, he is no more qualified than Sarah Palin is to be President.  Obama is arrogant--if he wanted true party unity, he would have picked Senator Clinton as his running mate.  Now, he is on the verge of losing the election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I COMPLETELY disagree with you.  I am a highly educated, Black male&#8211;someone who is supposed to be a perfect fit for the Obama demographic.  Yet I did not support him in the primaries and I don&#8217;t support him now.  It is not fair to say that just because someone does not want to support Obama means they are racist.  Yes there are alot of racist people out there&#8211;enough to swing the election to McCain.  But to generalize Clinton supporters as racist is totally unfair.</p>
<p>Obama is simply not qualified to be President.  In fact, he is no more qualified than Sarah Palin is to be President.  Obama is arrogant&#8211;if he wanted true party unity, he would have picked Senator Clinton as his running mate.  Now, he is on the verge of losing the election.</p>
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		<title>By: TigerTzu</title>
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		<dc:creator>TigerTzu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m no fan of Obama or Clinton, but the simple fact is Obama shot himself in the foot by not choosing Clinton as his running mate.  Maybe it is petty of former Clinton supporters to not endorse Obama for whatever reasons they may have, but if you want to assign blame, start at the top.  It was a stupid move on his part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m no fan of Obama or Clinton, but the simple fact is Obama shot himself in the foot by not choosing Clinton as his running mate.  Maybe it is petty of former Clinton supporters to not endorse Obama for whatever reasons they may have, but if you want to assign blame, start at the top.  It was a stupid move on his part.</p>
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		<title>By: queer libertarian</title>
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		<dc:creator>queer libertarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i can&#039;t believe some of these clinton supporters! this is all sour grapes. get over your loss &amp; get out there &amp; support YOUR ticket.1 reason obama chose the &quot;pro women&#039;s rights&quot; biden was to appeal to these voters. hillary was quoting rove in the primaries &amp; with the whole assassination comment she made,who can blame him for picking someone warmer &amp; more real? the clintons are too self-absorbed to put up with another 8-16 years. the clintons didn&#039;t produce any coattails while they were in office. they gave us the repub congress in &#039;94. clinton values helped sink gore in 2000. if it wasn&#039;t for bill &amp; monica, he would have had a more decisive victory over bush/cheney. so now the clintons whining about the primaries are now screwing up another democrat trying to get into the oval office. if obama loses,i won&#039;t ever vote for hillary in any election. it&#039;s exactly like Xman said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i can&#8217;t believe some of these clinton supporters! this is all sour grapes. get over your loss &amp; get out there &amp; support YOUR ticket.1 reason obama chose the &#8220;pro women&#8217;s rights&#8221; biden was to appeal to these voters. hillary was quoting rove in the primaries &amp; with the whole assassination comment she made,who can blame him for picking someone warmer &amp; more real? the clintons are too self-absorbed to put up with another 8-16 years. the clintons didn&#8217;t produce any coattails while they were in office. they gave us the repub congress in &#8217;94. clinton values helped sink gore in 2000. if it wasn&#8217;t for bill &amp; monica, he would have had a more decisive victory over bush/cheney. so now the clintons whining about the primaries are now screwing up another democrat trying to get into the oval office. if obama loses,i won&#8217;t ever vote for hillary in any election. it&#8217;s exactly like Xman said.</p>
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		<title>By: sandy</title>
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		<dc:creator>sandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OBAMA DOES NOT HAVE THE SAME VALUES AS CLONTON.  I supported Clinton.  I don&#039;t think I can vote for Obama, and I WON&#039;T vote for McCain.  Clinton matched my values - universal health care, gay rights, abortion rights, separation of church and state.  Obama does not.  He does not support UHC, he won&#039;t say NO to DOMA and DADT, he has gone religious on abortion, and he is an evangelical kissing up to the right wing evangelistas.  I will NEVER vote for an evangelical, or a homophobe, or a misogynist. I&#039;m either writing in, or going with a third party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OBAMA DOES NOT HAVE THE SAME VALUES AS CLONTON.  I supported Clinton.  I don&#8217;t think I can vote for Obama, and I WON&#8217;T vote for McCain.  Clinton matched my values &#8211; universal health care, gay rights, abortion rights, separation of church and state.  Obama does not.  He does not support UHC, he won&#8217;t say NO to DOMA and DADT, he has gone religious on abortion, and he is an evangelical kissing up to the right wing evangelistas.  I will NEVER vote for an evangelical, or a homophobe, or a misogynist. I&#8217;m either writing in, or going with a third party.</p>
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		<title>By: Xman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If so called Clinton Supporters are going to be so needless and not give a rat&#039;s A* about the state of the economy and what’s going on because they have a gut feeling and vote for someone who is totally opposite than Clinton was and Obama has the same ideal&#039;s as Clinton did but there going with McShame, thats racist at its finest. Explain to me how you would vote for Clinton but than switch because she was elected; to someone who was a total opposite? if OBAMA loses because of the crap; you don’t think we wont remember in 4 years…you wont get it…and I guarantee and so will all Obama supports that they will throw another republican in office after McShame…</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If so called Clinton Supporters are going to be so needless and not give a rat&#8217;s A* about the state of the economy and what’s going on because they have a gut feeling and vote for someone who is totally opposite than Clinton was and Obama has the same ideal&#8217;s as Clinton did but there going with McShame, thats racist at its finest. Explain to me how you would vote for Clinton but than switch because she was elected; to someone who was a total opposite? if OBAMA loses because of the crap; you don’t think we wont remember in 4 years…you wont get it…and I guarantee and so will all Obama supports that they will throw another republican in office after McShame…</p>
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