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		<title>By: Jason21TX</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/news/political-pulpit-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-19911</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason21TX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 06:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the next great battle - to end the right of churches to run defacto political campaigns to put their religious points of view as part of our laws.

And besides fixing this problem, we need a legal mechanism to hold churches responsible for using their parishioners and the general public as proxies who commit crimes, up to and including murder.  

Preaching the &quot;word of God&quot; does not give one the right, no matter how carefully they twist their words, to provide the fodder that encourages serious crimes, eg murder, beatings, and discrimination and denigration of gay people, who are entitled to equality under the law.

I can just hear the Catholic and right wing protestant churches (of the likes Palin belongs to) screaming.

But they would be screaming a different tune if the Mosque down the street was telling their parishoniers that Christians were Infidels, that the Koran demanded their death, etc.  Amazing how our right wing would change. 

It proves that they are nothing but hypocrites, liars, and haters.  A pox upon the human race.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the next great battle &#8211; to end the right of churches to run defacto political campaigns to put their religious points of view as part of our laws.</p>
<p>And besides fixing this problem, we need a legal mechanism to hold churches responsible for using their parishioners and the general public as proxies who commit crimes, up to and including murder.  </p>
<p>Preaching the &#8220;word of God&#8221; does not give one the right, no matter how carefully they twist their words, to provide the fodder that encourages serious crimes, eg murder, beatings, and discrimination and denigration of gay people, who are entitled to equality under the law.</p>
<p>I can just hear the Catholic and right wing protestant churches (of the likes Palin belongs to) screaming.</p>
<p>But they would be screaming a different tune if the Mosque down the street was telling their parishoniers that Christians were Infidels, that the Koran demanded their death, etc.  Amazing how our right wing would change. </p>
<p>It proves that they are nothing but hypocrites, liars, and haters.  A pox upon the human race.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/news/political-pulpit-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-19020</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 21:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about the injunction against women speaking out in church? or the part about women being subservient to men? How do you reconcile a woman being in a position of authority over men when the bible says it wrong?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about the injunction against women speaking out in church? or the part about women being subservient to men? How do you reconcile a woman being in a position of authority over men when the bible says it wrong?</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/news/political-pulpit-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-18962</link>
		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 18:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Pastors have a right to speak about biblical truths from the pulpit without any fear of punishment,” 

Yeak, like you should put the victims of incest to death, and like you should deny communion to thedisabled, you should stone disobedient children, and don&#039;t at lobster or shrimp &#039;cuz it&#039;s an abomination!!! (Well, at least according to the Bibl, anyway.)

How come I get the distinct feeling every time this issue rears its ugly head that it really only means the &#039;right&#039; to proclaim queers are goin&#039; to hell?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Pastors have a right to speak about biblical truths from the pulpit without any fear of punishment,” </p>
<p>Yeak, like you should put the victims of incest to death, and like you should deny communion to thedisabled, you should stone disobedient children, and don&#8217;t at lobster or shrimp &#8216;cuz it&#8217;s an abomination!!! (Well, at least according to the Bibl, anyway.)</p>
<p>How come I get the distinct feeling every time this issue rears its ugly head that it really only means the &#8216;right&#8217; to proclaim queers are goin&#8217; to hell?</p>
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		<title>By: Guy in SF</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/news/political-pulpit-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-18936</link>
		<dc:creator>Guy in SF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 17:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Pastors have a right to speak about biblical truths from the pulpit … “  Where in the bible does it state which political candidates to endorse or oppose?

It’s one thing for churches to encourage it’s members to be active in the community and vote.  But, they cross the line from religious freedom into politics when they tell parishioners which candidates and ballot measures to vote for and against.

This pure political action by religion and it&#039;s actions and monetary activity should be reported as any other PAC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Pastors have a right to speak about biblical truths from the pulpit … “  Where in the bible does it state which political candidates to endorse or oppose?</p>
<p>It’s one thing for churches to encourage it’s members to be active in the community and vote.  But, they cross the line from religious freedom into politics when they tell parishioners which candidates and ballot measures to vote for and against.</p>
<p>This pure political action by religion and it&#8217;s actions and monetary activity should be reported as any other PAC.</p>
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		<title>By: TigerTzu</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/news/political-pulpit-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-18935</link>
		<dc:creator>TigerTzu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 17:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even a blind man can see that conservative churches function like a PAC, both in theory and practice.  The question is not if they should be taxed and held accountable, but rather why they have not lost their tax-exempt status long before now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even a blind man can see that conservative churches function like a PAC, both in theory and practice.  The question is not if they should be taxed and held accountable, but rather why they have not lost their tax-exempt status long before now.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/news/political-pulpit-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-18826</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 13:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The separation of church and state runs both ways. The state keeps out of the churches and the churches keep out of the state affairs. Break down the wall and the interference runs both ways. Church finances then become public information and they become accountable to all laws like the rest of us. If I were a minister, I would think long and hard about whether or not I want that wall torn down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The separation of church and state runs both ways. The state keeps out of the churches and the churches keep out of the state affairs. Break down the wall and the interference runs both ways. Church finances then become public information and they become accountable to all laws like the rest of us. If I were a minister, I would think long and hard about whether or not I want that wall torn down.</p>
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		<title>By: Quasi</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/news/political-pulpit-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-18805</link>
		<dc:creator>Quasi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 12:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If religion is about the soul and getting into heaven in the after life, I think it should stay on a pure topic. They shoudl just preach to their choirs, and not mine. 

Anyone or any organization which purports to be religious and does political maneuvering of any sort, is a POLITICAL organization, and NOT a religious one. If it demonstrates as a politically-minded group, then it should be regulated and taxed as such. They are trying to serve two masters, and that is just plainly wrong.

Of course, I think all organizations about &quot;this religious mythology&quot; of theirs should be regulated and perhaps muzzled unless they are in the temples of their gods. I sure do not want to hear them rattling on in public. They all are the same as that Phelps Klan in Westboro.

And lastly, properly-done science should trump religion in all cases.

I applaud anyone who is working to these same goals. Perhaps some of these organizations see their immediate demise if the religious nuts have it their way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If religion is about the soul and getting into heaven in the after life, I think it should stay on a pure topic. They shoudl just preach to their choirs, and not mine. </p>
<p>Anyone or any organization which purports to be religious and does political maneuvering of any sort, is a POLITICAL organization, and NOT a religious one. If it demonstrates as a politically-minded group, then it should be regulated and taxed as such. They are trying to serve two masters, and that is just plainly wrong.</p>
<p>Of course, I think all organizations about &#8220;this religious mythology&#8221; of theirs should be regulated and perhaps muzzled unless they are in the temples of their gods. I sure do not want to hear them rattling on in public. They all are the same as that Phelps Klan in Westboro.</p>
<p>And lastly, properly-done science should trump religion in all cases.</p>
<p>I applaud anyone who is working to these same goals. Perhaps some of these organizations see their immediate demise if the religious nuts have it their way.</p>
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