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		<title>By: Gerry Fisher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gerry Fisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 19:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;and end DADT (check!).

I got carried away with my checks. It should have been &quot;...and end DADT (not yet).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;and end DADT (check!).</p>
<p>I got carried away with my checks. It should have been &#8220;&#8230;and end DADT (not yet).</p>
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		<title>By: Gerry Fisher</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/news/obama-pledges-to-end-military-ban-at-hrc/comment-page-1/#comment-74473</link>
		<dc:creator>Gerry Fisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 19:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;He will never make good on the promise...

He&#039;s already beginning to. He&#039;s offered as many benefits to LGBT federal employees as he could with a stroke of a pen. He&#039;s chosen openly gay people for highly regarded appointed positions. ENDA and the hate crimes bill are moving through congress (the hate crimes bill passed the house, right?). So, by year&#039;s end, he should have two out of the big 4 accomplished: ENDA (check!), hate crimes (check!), end DOMA (not yet), and end DADT (check!).

I predict that ending DADT will happen sometime next year before the mid-term elections. That will give him three of four major pieces of legislation in his first two years.

Please stop pretending as if he&#039;s only used words and has never done anything. That&#039;s disingenuous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;He will never make good on the promise&#8230;</p>
<p>He&#8217;s already beginning to. He&#8217;s offered as many benefits to LGBT federal employees as he could with a stroke of a pen. He&#8217;s chosen openly gay people for highly regarded appointed positions. ENDA and the hate crimes bill are moving through congress (the hate crimes bill passed the house, right?). So, by year&#8217;s end, he should have two out of the big 4 accomplished: ENDA (check!), hate crimes (check!), end DOMA (not yet), and end DADT (check!).</p>
<p>I predict that ending DADT will happen sometime next year before the mid-term elections. That will give him three of four major pieces of legislation in his first two years.</p>
<p>Please stop pretending as if he&#8217;s only used words and has never done anything. That&#8217;s disingenuous.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerry Fisher</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/news/obama-pledges-to-end-military-ban-at-hrc/comment-page-1/#comment-74472</link>
		<dc:creator>Gerry Fisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 19:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;I liked what President Obama had to say even if I HAVE heard it from him before. What incensed me was something I heard the next day on CNN.

I think that KaninZ is onto something *really* *important* here. If you follow the model that worked so well in MA during the gay marriage fights, then LBGT people in the districts of these two elected officials would ask that they reverse their statements or face opposition from a candidate who would back a DOMA repeal. If they said no, then the LGBT people would find a worthy candidate, help that candidate to raise money, and work to get the alternative candidate elected.

This method *works*. There are so few people who are very active in politics that, if a small band of very committed people work hard, you can over take entrenched candidates. That&#039;s how we got Deval Patrick into the governorship here, and it&#039;s how we booted out a number of anti-marriage-equality legislators.

But it&#039;s not sexy. It&#039;s not a march. It won&#039;t get on TV any time soon. And there&#039;s no street theater. It&#039;s a lot of planning over coffee, making phone calls, getting people to the meetings at the right time, educating about the electoral process, holding signs, and so on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;I liked what President Obama had to say even if I HAVE heard it from him before. What incensed me was something I heard the next day on CNN.</p>
<p>I think that KaninZ is onto something *really* *important* here. If you follow the model that worked so well in MA during the gay marriage fights, then LBGT people in the districts of these two elected officials would ask that they reverse their statements or face opposition from a candidate who would back a DOMA repeal. If they said no, then the LGBT people would find a worthy candidate, help that candidate to raise money, and work to get the alternative candidate elected.</p>
<p>This method *works*. There are so few people who are very active in politics that, if a small band of very committed people work hard, you can over take entrenched candidates. That&#8217;s how we got Deval Patrick into the governorship here, and it&#8217;s how we booted out a number of anti-marriage-equality legislators.</p>
<p>But it&#8217;s not sexy. It&#8217;s not a march. It won&#8217;t get on TV any time soon. And there&#8217;s no street theater. It&#8217;s a lot of planning over coffee, making phone calls, getting people to the meetings at the right time, educating about the electoral process, holding signs, and so on.</p>
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		<title>By: canam</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/news/obama-pledges-to-end-military-ban-at-hrc/comment-page-1/#comment-74362</link>
		<dc:creator>canam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 03:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;At any rate, when President Obama does away with DADT with a stroke of the pen — which he is apparently empowered to do no matter how much homophobes rant and rave — , then and only then will I believe that the message of hope was for me, too.&#039;

correct me if i&#039;m wrong, i&#039;m not american, but doesn&#039;t a bill have to go through congress to become a law? because if not someone could &quot;by a stroke of a pen&#039; reverse said law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;At any rate, when President Obama does away with DADT with a stroke of the pen — which he is apparently empowered to do no matter how much homophobes rant and rave — , then and only then will I believe that the message of hope was for me, too.&#8217;</p>
<p>correct me if i&#8217;m wrong, i&#8217;m not american, but doesn&#8217;t a bill have to go through congress to become a law? because if not someone could &#8220;by a stroke of a pen&#8217; reverse said law.</p>
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		<title>By: mscottdodd</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/news/obama-pledges-to-end-military-ban-at-hrc/comment-page-1/#comment-74323</link>
		<dc:creator>mscottdodd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;... left many in his audience of gay activists wondering when he would make good on the promise.&quot; I was not in the audience, nor do I wonder when he will make good on the promise. 

He will never make good on the promise until he and his administration realize that we are full citizens who are suffering daily because of discriminatory policies in the military and in the civilian world. We are not abstractions, we are living, breathing, dying and VOTING citizens and members of families as much as anyone else out there. 

I have seen no evidence that this administration has chosen to treat us as human beings rather than a voting bloc. 

At any rate, when President Obama does away with DADT with a stroke of the pen -- which he is apparently empowered to do no matter how much homophobes rant and rave -- , then and only then will I believe that the message of hope was for me, too. 

Let him take one real risk for us, just one. I do not consider it a risk to do gay-friendly things when no one is going to raise a ruckus. It&#039;s nice, but nice isn&#039;t getting anything done. Neither does nasty, but courage just might make a change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230; left many in his audience of gay activists wondering when he would make good on the promise.&#8221; I was not in the audience, nor do I wonder when he will make good on the promise. </p>
<p>He will never make good on the promise until he and his administration realize that we are full citizens who are suffering daily because of discriminatory policies in the military and in the civilian world. We are not abstractions, we are living, breathing, dying and VOTING citizens and members of families as much as anyone else out there. </p>
<p>I have seen no evidence that this administration has chosen to treat us as human beings rather than a voting bloc. </p>
<p>At any rate, when President Obama does away with DADT with a stroke of the pen &#8212; which he is apparently empowered to do no matter how much homophobes rant and rave &#8212; , then and only then will I believe that the message of hope was for me, too. </p>
<p>Let him take one real risk for us, just one. I do not consider it a risk to do gay-friendly things when no one is going to raise a ruckus. It&#8217;s nice, but nice isn&#8217;t getting anything done. Neither does nasty, but courage just might make a change.</p>
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		<title>By: Kari</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/news/obama-pledges-to-end-military-ban-at-hrc/comment-page-1/#comment-74307</link>
		<dc:creator>Kari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 03:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trace: If the current approval ratings for Obama and every likely Republican contender continue as they are for the rest of Obama&#039;s term, he won&#039;t have any trouble getting re-elected.

Obama&#039;s around 55% approval and 35% disapproval; Palin, Huckabee, Pawlenty, etc. all have those numbers reversed.

The only Republican anyone&#039;s looking at right now who has a snowball&#039;s chance in hell of getting elected in 2012 is Mitt Romney, and it would be difficult for him to clinch the nomination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trace: If the current approval ratings for Obama and every likely Republican contender continue as they are for the rest of Obama&#8217;s term, he won&#8217;t have any trouble getting re-elected.</p>
<p>Obama&#8217;s around 55% approval and 35% disapproval; Palin, Huckabee, Pawlenty, etc. all have those numbers reversed.</p>
<p>The only Republican anyone&#8217;s looking at right now who has a snowball&#8217;s chance in hell of getting elected in 2012 is Mitt Romney, and it would be difficult for him to clinch the nomination.</p>
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		<title>By: KaninZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>KaninZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 00:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take action folks. Both Senators have contact pages on the web. 

  Here&#039;s what I sent:

&quot;Senator Casey,
  I watched your interview with John King of CNN this morning and heard both you and your fellow Senator Deb Stabenow say you wouldn&#039;t vote to overturn DOMA even though you both seem to realize that the Civil Rights of your fellow Americans are being trampled upon.

  In one statement you both managed to exhibit political, ethical and moral cowardice. Quite a coup even for career politicians.
  I hope this sorry display costs both of you your seats to make room for someone who WILL support and defend the Constitutional rights of ALL their constituents!&quot;

  Let&#039;s raise a voice against gradualism. NO MORE EXCUSES!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take action folks. Both Senators have contact pages on the web. </p>
<p>  Here&#8217;s what I sent:</p>
<p>&#8220;Senator Casey,<br />
  I watched your interview with John King of CNN this morning and heard both you and your fellow Senator Deb Stabenow say you wouldn&#8217;t vote to overturn DOMA even though you both seem to realize that the Civil Rights of your fellow Americans are being trampled upon.</p>
<p>  In one statement you both managed to exhibit political, ethical and moral cowardice. Quite a coup even for career politicians.<br />
  I hope this sorry display costs both of you your seats to make room for someone who WILL support and defend the Constitutional rights of ALL their constituents!&#8221;</p>
<p>  Let&#8217;s raise a voice against gradualism. NO MORE EXCUSES!</p>
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		<title>By: Brian O'Reilly</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/news/obama-pledges-to-end-military-ban-at-hrc/comment-page-1/#comment-74301</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian O'Reilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 23:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The gay activists strategy during Obama&#039;s first year has failed because by throwing parties, giving standing ovations, writing thank-you notes and making toasts, gays have become the nice guy that finishes last.  Pathetic cheerleaders and banquet servers.  Joe Solmonese has become Cinderella, doing all the work, then kept away from the ball by the evil stepsisters, Rahm Emanuel and David Axelrod

The HRC &quot;we&#039;ve got your back, always&quot; strategy is a failure because no one has told the people in power &quot;if you don&#039;t enact these two fucking easy repeals before the midterms, we may not be there for you at the time of the midterms.&quot;  The gay elites have been partying so long with their democratic pol friends, bonding with complaints about the &quot;enemy,&quot; the HRC and all the others forgot one simple fact:  When the democrats control the government, and they keep protecting DADT and DOMA, they HAVE BECOME the enemy.  They are protecting those laws because they are afraid of losing power.  They forgot that we helped put them there, and they do not have OUR back.  Without the fear of elections, the democrats care about gay issues, but don&#039;t have the fear they need to act.  Gay vets dumped, etc. 

But I say the HRC and everyone else needs to hold commander fucktard and the rest of the U.S. Government accountable, and make sure the democrats do not squander their best political asset, US.  

And if they bring up my patience one more time I am going to puke.  My patience is no longer the issue.  Discrimination of me and fellow Americans is the issue, the only issue now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The gay activists strategy during Obama&#8217;s first year has failed because by throwing parties, giving standing ovations, writing thank-you notes and making toasts, gays have become the nice guy that finishes last.  Pathetic cheerleaders and banquet servers.  Joe Solmonese has become Cinderella, doing all the work, then kept away from the ball by the evil stepsisters, Rahm Emanuel and David Axelrod</p>
<p>The HRC &#8220;we&#8217;ve got your back, always&#8221; strategy is a failure because no one has told the people in power &#8220;if you don&#8217;t enact these two fucking easy repeals before the midterms, we may not be there for you at the time of the midterms.&#8221;  The gay elites have been partying so long with their democratic pol friends, bonding with complaints about the &#8220;enemy,&#8221; the HRC and all the others forgot one simple fact:  When the democrats control the government, and they keep protecting DADT and DOMA, they HAVE BECOME the enemy.  They are protecting those laws because they are afraid of losing power.  They forgot that we helped put them there, and they do not have OUR back.  Without the fear of elections, the democrats care about gay issues, but don&#8217;t have the fear they need to act.  Gay vets dumped, etc. </p>
<p>But I say the HRC and everyone else needs to hold commander fucktard and the rest of the U.S. Government accountable, and make sure the democrats do not squander their best political asset, US.  </p>
<p>And if they bring up my patience one more time I am going to puke.  My patience is no longer the issue.  Discrimination of me and fellow Americans is the issue, the only issue now.</p>
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		<title>By: KaninZ</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/news/obama-pledges-to-end-military-ban-at-hrc/comment-page-1/#comment-74300</link>
		<dc:creator>KaninZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 23:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, forgot to name the gimboids...Senators Bob Casey and Deb Stabenow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, forgot to name the gimboids&#8230;Senators Bob Casey and Deb Stabenow.</p>
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		<title>By: KaninZ</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/news/obama-pledges-to-end-military-ban-at-hrc/comment-page-1/#comment-74299</link>
		<dc:creator>KaninZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 23:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked what President Obama had to say even if I HAVE heard it from him before. What incensed me was something I heard the next day on CNN.
  The reporter was asking two Democrats if they would vote to repeal DOMA if the legislation to do so was brought before them...both said in effect that &quot;we know our fellow Americans Constitutional rights and Civil Rights are being trampled on, but if we voted to overturn DOMA we&#039;d be voted out of office. We need this resolved at the Federal level so we can keep our seats.&quot;

  Political, moral and ethical cowardice all in one statement. Pretty impressive even for career politicians. Both of these unAmerican gimboids need to lose their seats!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked what President Obama had to say even if I HAVE heard it from him before. What incensed me was something I heard the next day on CNN.<br />
  The reporter was asking two Democrats if they would vote to repeal DOMA if the legislation to do so was brought before them&#8230;both said in effect that &#8220;we know our fellow Americans Constitutional rights and Civil Rights are being trampled on, but if we voted to overturn DOMA we&#8217;d be voted out of office. We need this resolved at the Federal level so we can keep our seats.&#8221;</p>
<p>  Political, moral and ethical cowardice all in one statement. Pretty impressive even for career politicians. Both of these unAmerican gimboids need to lose their seats!</p>
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