Comments on: Obama picks Biden

By: Ross

Ross — Sat, 23 Aug 2008 21:01:26 +0000

Well If we look at support for our rights, then why the hell should Obama have picked Hillary?

Her husband SIGNED the Defense of Marriage Act! He could have vetoed it and stood up for equality, but he SIGNED it. It wasn’t something that got sneaked in by a Republican, it was “Good ole’ Bubba.”

I don’t see what the Clintons ever did to help us out. DADT? That might have been OK at the time, but even then it was a cowardly move. He should have allowed open service, but he didn’t. It was a wishy-washy concession to conservatives then, and its a gigantic impediment to us now.

All I know is that this election is too important to let sour grapes decide. If Hillary’s voters are stupid enough to boycott Obama, then I swear right here and now I will NEVER support a Clinton EVER AGAIN!

By: Trace

Trace — Sat, 23 Aug 2008 20:26:30 +0000

As I’ve said Sarrellec, if you find so many faults in the Greatest Country on Earth, by all means either do not come to the US or else leave upon your first availability.

There certainly is no lack in people wanting to come to the country both legally and even illegally.

If you’re going to trumpet how wonderful some “socialist” systems of government are, that is fine. But you’ll note that more and more of those “wonderful” socialist systems are moving more and more towards US style systems.

By: chicagovioletboi

chicagovioletboi — Sat, 23 Aug 2008 20:12:05 +0000

I am glad tat Obama pick Biden for is running mate for the democrats. That just made it more better for Mccain to take it. Thanks you democrats for scwewing that up . anothing thing Start packing Sgvmikela for Canada becouse the Republicans are going to take it or are you just full of talk and can’t walk the walk

By: Sarrellec

Sarrellec — Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:35:50 +0000

I’m always tickled when people blithely rattle off that the the USA is the greatest country on earth, because I wonder by what criteria they make this declarative and obviously unsubstantiated statement.
The USA comes in at 37 for healthcare. Americans work longer hours and more days a year than any other citizen of any other first world country.
Americans retirement benefits are pitiful and laughable when compared to the retirement benefits of other citizens of any other first world country.
Americans must go into crushing and crippling debt–unless they’re independently wealthy, of course–to obtain a secondary education whereas virtually every other first world country provides secondary education. They see this as an overall benefit to both the citizenry and society as a whole to educate not just the rich, but those that can actually DO SOMETHING with that education besides becoming the first certifiably idiot president in history.
The USA is the ONLY form of…ahem…democratic government of its kind on the face of the planet. Every other democracy is a parliamentary democracy which does NOT have an electoral college through which to bastardize the will of their citizens and if the politicians screw up, they face a forced election. So, they aren’t stuck with an idiot president for four years, like it or not. AND, the President or Prime Minister either wins or not, regardless of the state or a Supreme court or whatever. The votes are counted and they count. Not so in the USA.
Civil rights in the USA have suffered major losses in the last 10 years and, again, are laughable when compared to the civil rights of over half of the rest of the countries in the free world.
So…just what is it that MAKES this country the “Greatest on Earth”?
Apparently…self-delusion.

By: Trace

Trace — Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:11:34 +0000

Always tickled when I hear people say that they want to leave the Greatest Country on Earth. I say go ahead. If you’re not willing to stay and fight for the things that you believe in, I don’t see where this country needs you. There are certainly many others (from every nation on Earth) that certainly would like to take your place.

By: Tim&/orEarl

Tim&/orEarl — Sat, 23 Aug 2008 17:57:16 +0000

One of the posters is thinking of moving to Canada if Republicans win?

Hope if you move to Canada you’re under 45 years of age so they’ll let you become a permanent resident…older than that, they won’t let you. We were grateful to be married there five years ago (together 32 years this year) but we cannot emigrate there since we’re over 45…not enough points to qualify when age is factored in.

So we’ll stay in USA and continue fighting for equality of our marriage that is now recognized in California, Massachusetts, and New York, though not in Pennsyltucky where we live which will be the very last state to recognize our marriage we should live so long!

twohusbands@hotmail.com

By: Nate

Nate — Sat, 23 Aug 2008 17:52:31 +0000

First of all, everyone needs to stop whining about Hillary not being the VP choice. Perhaps if she had not been so venomous towards Obama during the primaries he may have considered her more thoroughly. Also keep in mind that her husband and lately become a liability as it appears he has lost his agility to think before he speaks. Secondly the Vice President is supposed to balance the ticket. Tell me how a second person exactly the same as the first is going to pick up the votes lost by any “weakness” the first may have. Its a practical and strategic choice. Lastly, politics ALWAYS has a gay angle, our government leaders affect ALL of our lives, besides this site had a better article then any of the others I read. So what if some if it was pasted from the AP, you’ll be hard pressed to find a news site that doesn’t.

By: Flip

Flip — Sat, 23 Aug 2008 17:42:43 +0000

Oh, just stop the whining already! So he picked Biden. What’s all the fuss?? That’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bath water. People don’t vote for candidates for their vice-presidents. They elect the candidate on what he can offer and accomplish.

As far as an electoral college advantage, Lieberman, Cheney, and Edwards offered very little to their bosses. CT, WY and NC were either solidly blue or red states no matter who was on the ticket.

We have to be realists. The fact remains that not one of the presidential candidates on either side support same-sex marriage. We have to stop faulting candidates because they are not 100% on our side. Each one has flaws.

I’m not saying we have to abandon our ideals. It’s just that this is not the time to be so ideologically rigid. In time, equality will be ours, but it will take time. By then we can probably be as rigid as we want.

I personally wanted Hillary to be the nominee, but I have learned to accept Obama and I will vote for him (albeit with strong reservations). There is just too much at stake besides gay rights, like jobs, gas prices, and our standing in the world, just to name a few.

One last point to ponder: Eisenhower, Kennedy, and LBJ were certainly not friends to us in the past, but they did appoint Supreme Court justices that laid the groundwork for future victories that helped us greatly today. Do you really want McCain charting our course for the future??

When you do go to the voting both (and I hope you will), take a deep breath, exhale, and vote for Obama. If we don’t, we are hanging ourselves by our own rope.

By: John

John — Sat, 23 Aug 2008 17:24:48 +0000

Biden isn’t exactly an exciting figure who will energize and electrify the voters. This is a very cautious and uninspired VP pick. Another sign the Democrats are blowing an election they should be winning in a landslide (again).

By: Brad Ryden

Brad Ryden — Sat, 23 Aug 2008 17:19:34 +0000

73 days until the election? It is tempting to say cancel it because nobody is going to show up. 2008 is going to be so boring; no, so embarrassingly boring. It is testimony that this nation survives and prospers on the strength of the people and not on our elected leaders.