November 21st, 2009
 

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NY Senate confusion sidelines gay marriage


(Albany) The paralyzing fight for control of the New York Senate has sidelined the movement for same-sex marriage indefinitely.

The measure’s prime Democratic sponsors, Sen. Thomas Duane and Assemblyman Daniel O’Donnell of New York City, say the issue is too important to push during the political turmoil in a Senate split 31-31. Paterson and senators question the validity of the sessions in which neither side will allow the other a 32-senator quorum needed to vote.

“I would be very resistant to the Senate voting on it until it was crystal clear the vote was legal and our action would ultimately and unquestionably make it law in New York state,” Duane said. “As I’ve said, I think it’s a terrible idea to gamble with our civil rights.”

“The Senate – as it’s currently operating – would prevent it from being enacted,” O’Donnell said. “How does that help anybody?”

Gov. David Paterson, who strongly supports a same-sex marriage law, removed same-sex marriage Thursday from his agenda items in the extraordinary session he called.

“We expect that marriage will be at the top of the agenda when the stalemate is over and the Senate resumes its business,” said Alan Van Capelle, executive director of same-sex rights group the Empire State Pride Agenda. “The bill must be handled respectfully and given its due debate so that senators can vote their conscience.”

Supportive politicians and activists remain confident the bill will gain final legislative approval in the Senate.

“I am disappointed, I’m sad. However, I still strongly believe that marriage equality in New York state is inevitable,” Duane said.

New York’s warring Senate factions have been paralyzed since a June 8 coup by a Republican-dominated coalition over the Democratic conference.

On Thursday, the Senate’s Democratic conference of 31 senators and the coalition each held sessions for a total of less than five minutes. It was a slap in the face for Paterson, who threatened to withhold their $160 daily expenses for every day they are in Albany and will try to dock their pay. They are paid a minimum of $79,500 a year before leadership stipends.

Both sides say they’re working on a deal to share power – if only temporarily – to extend critical laws and authorize local government taxes that face deadlines in six days. They had wanted to go home to negotiate over the weekend and return Monday in a single, working session, but Paterson said they could provide no proof they are close to a deal.

That “made me think they are more concerned about how they spend their weekend, than how the people of New York spend the period after July 1 when the legislation doesn’t pass and laws expire exposing counties and municipalities to grave risk,” Paterson said.

“I think we’re all hostages,” said Sen. Carl Kruger, a Brooklyn Democrat, who called Paterson incompetent.

Democratic conference leader John Sampson, of Brooklyn, and coalition leader Sen. Pedro Espada, of the Bronx, insisted a power-sharing agreement is in the works.

“Now we’ve adopted a new approach,” said Espada, the Senate president elected by the coalition. “There is a reliance now on mutual respect and on really looking beyond ourselves to saving this institution and the embarrassment that has been brought to all of us.”

“We’re working,” Sampson said in an interview. “The deadline is looming.”


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  • tjr Said: June 26th, 2009 at 12:18 am
    • As a NY’er these developments is not in the least bit surprising. This has nothing to do with stiffing gays and gay rights. This has to do with those who are power hungry particularly the democrat Pedro Espada.
      Those of you living outside of NY don’t seem to understand that there are a lot more critical bills that needs to be passed before same-sex marriage can even be voted on. The very financial survival of the state is what’s at stake here. Same-sex marriage is the last issue on many people’s minds right now.

  • TOM Said: June 26th, 2009 at 12:17 am
    • Just went through prop 8 in California and I’m still pissed. Please let us know which Senators are not supporting our equality, which are, and who to write a check too. Any LGBT’s candidates that want to run you have my full support and I have a very fat check book.

  • Morgan Said: June 25th, 2009 at 11:30 pm
    • This is sad for marriage equality. How can we expect to pass this or any other gay rights matter until the NY Senate is fully functioning and until the legislators decide to behave like mature adults instead of like 5 year-olds having a tantrum?

  • Jeff Said: June 25th, 2009 at 11:02 pm
    • Some Democrats ARE to blame.

      Ruben Diaz (a Bronx Democrat) needs to be weeded out next time around. I hope he is defeated in a primary. Even a Republican in the general election could not be worse than Diaz. Fat chance of that happening in the Bronx though.

  • Aaron from Long Beach Said: June 25th, 2009 at 10:43 pm
    • Man, still lived in NY I would be throwing a fit right now.

      What is up with the NY State Senate?! and politics in general lately for that matter…? Is it just me, or is it getting more ridiculously childish by the day?!

      Meanwhile the gays wait… again. The planet is dying and the economy circles the drain. It is sooooo beyond time to get rid of all these idiots and reboot the system.

      Time for a 3rd Party ya’ll!!! The democrats are the new republicans! …and the republicans are… well… crazy.

  • Thomas P. Said: June 25th, 2009 at 9:31 pm
    • Just to make it clear – the weakness of the democrats combined with the smugness of the republicans and fired up by the two traitors who allowed themselves to be bought off by billionaire Tom Golissano, mixed in with Mr. Diaz’ religious posturing (and threats to jump parties over marriage equality) have screwed over ALL new Yorkers, not just us. But once again, it is our issue that is brought up in network news broadcasts, our civil rights that are used in political bargaining, our issue that gets the most public debate, and I’m tired of that. When I recommended an angry mob, I was including all New Yorkers who are having their lives and livelihoods being treated with the greatest disrespect by our government officials. But the issue that most affects the readers of this site is most likely marriage equality (which won’t happen as long as several of the legislators continue to allign themselves with religious groups) Surprisingly, some key republicans are speaking out in support of us.

  • Steve, Albany, NY Said: June 25th, 2009 at 9:29 pm
    • This time I don’t agree with Kari, unfortunately.

      Malcolm Smith is squarely to blame for his contemptuous treatment of the gay community this entire session. And the Senate Democratic caucus did nothing to stop him.

      I don’t think anyone who declines to contribute to these sell-outs is being selfish in the least. That allegation is WAAAAAAY out of line.

  • Neil Said: June 25th, 2009 at 9:28 pm
    • “Duane said. “As I’ve said, I think it’s a terrible idea to gamble with our civil rights.”” SAY WHAT?

      As if refusing to throw the dice is any less of a gamble?

      Let’s see where we stand. Let’s stop seeing ourselves as some trodden under community that can only poke our head up if the coast is clear.

      We need to poke our heads up now! Win or lose. At the very least we will see what need’s to be changed as we go forward. Our ostrich needs to reveal the full height of who we are. And we can’t do that with our heads in the sand.

      Neil

  • Dieter Said: June 25th, 2009 at 9:10 pm
    • the gAyTM is now closed!

  • Kari Said: June 25th, 2009 at 9:00 pm
    • It’s not the democrats to blame in this case… The deadlock has pretty much stopped the consideration of *any* bills.

      The Senate is completely shut down right now for *every* bill on *every* topic. No business is being conducted because without quorum conducting business would be illegal.

      I can’t believe the sheer selfishness of the comments on this article. It’s not like gays are being singled out here; NOTHING is getting done in the NYS Senate because unless there’s quorum it would be illegal to do anything.

  • Thomas P. Said: June 25th, 2009 at 8:24 pm
    • As a New Yorker who got married in Massachusetts last year, I don’t think marriage equality is inevitable in New York. We have a bunch of schoolyard bullies trying to prove how big they are running the state government. We have elected democrats spouting off their religious views threatening to jump ship to prevent marriage equality. We have a governor who inherited a mess who’s being blamed for all the problems. And he’s our strongest ally! I can’t believe how much the democrats have screwed us over, and continue to use our civil rights as bargaining chips. I think many New Yorkers are fed up at this point. Maybe it’s time for an angry mob to had to Albany.

  • Ginelle Said: June 25th, 2009 at 8:11 pm
    • Once again, our equal rights are sidelined and postponed for another time! Could a holdback on political donations be the answer to our finally achieving our long deserved rights and protections?

  • Gay Man Said: June 25th, 2009 at 8:00 pm
    • They don’t want to do anything because they want gay people to donate money to their campaigns next time thinking that they will finally get it passed. NO money from me.

  • R & R Said: June 25th, 2009 at 7:43 pm
    • It has nothing to do with equality or liberty or rights. It has everything to do with the politics of power – screw the people!

  • Tim Said: June 25th, 2009 at 7:33 pm
    • Yet even MORE delays for gay rights. How can these Democrats expect to be given gay money when they won’t introduce gay positive legislation?

 
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