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	<title>Comments on: New star-studded video protests Prop 8</title>
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		<title>By: TheRadicalRealist</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/news/new-star-studded-video-protests-prop-8/comment-page-1/#comment-34330</link>
		<dc:creator>TheRadicalRealist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 02:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Advizor said: &quot;Maybe Shaiman didn’t call for his resignation, but he helped create a toxic, hostile, and dangerous environment that forced him out.&quot;

Maybe Eckern should have thought about that before he decided to donate $1,000 to Yes on 8 which helps to create a toxic, hostile, and dangerous environment for LGBT people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Advizor said: &#8220;Maybe Shaiman didn’t call for his resignation, but he helped create a toxic, hostile, and dangerous environment that forced him out.&#8221;</p>
<p>Maybe Eckern should have thought about that before he decided to donate $1,000 to Yes on 8 which helps to create a toxic, hostile, and dangerous environment for LGBT people.</p>
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		<title>By: Advizor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Advizor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 02:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quoted from above.  

Shaiman’s “Hairspray” had played at the theater and he said he would never allow anything he wrote to play there because of Eckern’s donation. Others protested and Eckern resigned in November.

In an interview Wednesday, Shaiman regretted that it came to Eckern losing his job and said: “It’s a tragedy for everyone involved. You’ll certainly see that no one called for him to resign.”
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The hypocrisy of this statement is so abhorrent that it goes beyond belief.  Shaiman “refuses” to let any of his pieces play there, others call for a boycott of the theater, threats of violence are mailed and called in to the theatre, and protests are threatened.  

These acts of violence were all from the gay community who preaches tolerance of different view points.  But, as soon as they decide you aren&#039;t following the party line, they pull out all the stops and ruin the career of a man who has been very supportive of gay playwrights, actors, stage hands and crew.

What, do you think he staffed all of his shows with straights?  

Maybe Shaiman didn’t call for his resignation, but he helped create a toxic, hostile, and dangerous environment that forced him out.  

Disgusting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quoted from above.  </p>
<p>Shaiman’s “Hairspray” had played at the theater and he said he would never allow anything he wrote to play there because of Eckern’s donation. Others protested and Eckern resigned in November.</p>
<p>In an interview Wednesday, Shaiman regretted that it came to Eckern losing his job and said: “It’s a tragedy for everyone involved. You’ll certainly see that no one called for him to resign.”<br />
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The hypocrisy of this statement is so abhorrent that it goes beyond belief.  Shaiman “refuses” to let any of his pieces play there, others call for a boycott of the theater, threats of violence are mailed and called in to the theatre, and protests are threatened.  </p>
<p>These acts of violence were all from the gay community who preaches tolerance of different view points.  But, as soon as they decide you aren&#8217;t following the party line, they pull out all the stops and ruin the career of a man who has been very supportive of gay playwrights, actors, stage hands and crew.</p>
<p>What, do you think he staffed all of his shows with straights?  </p>
<p>Maybe Shaiman didn’t call for his resignation, but he helped create a toxic, hostile, and dangerous environment that forced him out.  </p>
<p>Disgusting.</p>
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		<title>By: charley</title>
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		<dc:creator>charley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True Ross. Maybe a lesson learned?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True Ross. Maybe a lesson learned?</p>
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		<title>By: Gerry Fisher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gerry Fisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the other posts.

The movement could use more political pragmatism and less day-late-dollar-short attempts to preach to the choir to show how cool they are with our struggle. I can&#039;t think of a purpose that video serves other than to revel in how much we all already agree with each other. It&#039;s not going to &quot;create movement&quot; on the issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the other posts.</p>
<p>The movement could use more political pragmatism and less day-late-dollar-short attempts to preach to the choir to show how cool they are with our struggle. I can&#8217;t think of a purpose that video serves other than to revel in how much we all already agree with each other. It&#8217;s not going to &#8220;create movement&#8221; on the issue.</p>
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		<title>By: LOrion</title>
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		<dc:creator>LOrion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Want some good discussion on this? See PHB today ... where
the writer reminds us that in this country EQUAL CIVIL RIGHTS for minorities need to be LOUDLY spoken up for and DEFENDED.  e.g. Rosa Parks was fed up with being treated as a 2nd class citizen and SAID SO!...look what it started? 

so remember ....  &quot;It’s not group popularity that wins struggles like ours. It’s perseverance! If you really believe your cause is just, then you won’t let legal or political setbacks stifle your activism. &quot;
(pamshouseblend.com/showDiary.do;jsessionid=C790DB004CB407A8B4BE3D8B628C093F?diaryId=8485)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Want some good discussion on this? See PHB today &#8230; where<br />
the writer reminds us that in this country EQUAL CIVIL RIGHTS for minorities need to be LOUDLY spoken up for and DEFENDED.  e.g. Rosa Parks was fed up with being treated as a 2nd class citizen and SAID SO!&#8230;look what it started? </p>
<p>so remember &#8230;.  &#8220;It’s not group popularity that wins struggles like ours. It’s perseverance! If you really believe your cause is just, then you won’t let legal or political setbacks stifle your activism. &#8221;<br />
(pamshouseblend.com/showDiary.do;jsessionid=C790DB004CB407A8B4BE3D8B628C093F?diaryId=8485)</p>
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		<title>By: LOrion</title>
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		<dc:creator>LOrion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Ross ...it does feel that way... I blame part of it on EQ CA who said that they had everything well in hand...just send them money and they would produce ads. 
Well, we did and they did, but they were &#039;horrible&#039;, not one addressing ....the problem of GLBT relationships being considered, immoral, sinful and second classs.
So we lost...and so many were counting on California marriage to swing others to our view of wanting everyone to be able to LOVE, and have families and security in homes, and jobs and health... the 1000+ ways HET couples are different.
So NOW we must continue the fight... but we all must stay loud if it is not being done correctly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Ross &#8230;it does feel that way&#8230; I blame part of it on EQ CA who said that they had everything well in hand&#8230;just send them money and they would produce ads.<br />
Well, we did and they did, but they were &#8216;horrible&#8217;, not one addressing &#8230;.the problem of GLBT relationships being considered, immoral, sinful and second classs.<br />
So we lost&#8230;and so many were counting on California marriage to swing others to our view of wanting everyone to be able to LOVE, and have families and security in homes, and jobs and health&#8230; the 1000+ ways HET couples are different.<br />
So NOW we must continue the fight&#8230; but we all must stay loud if it is not being done correctly.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What good does this do?

It&#039;s a musical.  Are there really that many people who watch musicals that aren&#039;t already in favor of equal marriage rights?  

I mean, come ON!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What good does this do?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a musical.  Are there really that many people who watch musicals that aren&#8217;t already in favor of equal marriage rights?  </p>
<p>I mean, come ON!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Ross</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 19:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, I know this is going to come off as kinda nit-picky so I just wanna preface my statement with an appreciation of any support as it will be necessary for the future of our struggle....

That being said...

Does anyone else feel that all this support we&#039;ve gotten since Prop 8 passed feel like its a day late and a dollar short?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, I know this is going to come off as kinda nit-picky so I just wanna preface my statement with an appreciation of any support as it will be necessary for the future of our struggle&#8230;.</p>
<p>That being said&#8230;</p>
<p>Does anyone else feel that all this support we&#8217;ve gotten since Prop 8 passed feel like its a day late and a dollar short?</p>
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