February 9th, 2010
 

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New Lutheran body to form after gay pastor vote


(New Brighton, Minn.) The split over gay clergy within the country’s largest Lutheran denomination has prompted a conservative faction to begin forming a new Lutheran church body separate from the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America.

Leaders of Lutheran CORE said Wednesday that a working group would immediately begin drafting a constitution and taking other steps to form the denomination, with hopes to have it off the ground by next August.

“There are many people within the ELCA who are very unhappy with what has happened,” said the Rev. Paull Spring, chairman of Lutheran CORE and a retired ELCA bishop from State College, Pa.

At its annual convention in Minneapolis in August, ELCA delegates voted to lift a ban that had prohibited sexually active gay and lesbian pastors from serving as clergy. The new policy, expected to take effect in April, will allow such individuals to lead ELCA churches as long as they can show that they are in committed, lifelong relationships.

Opponents, led by Lutheran CORE, said that decision is in direct contradiction to Scripture.

At a September convention, Lutheran CORE members voted to spend a year considering whether to form a new Lutheran denomination. However, its leaders said Wednesday that a heavy volume of requests for an alternative from disenfranchised congregations and churchgoers prompted them to hasten the process.

John Brooks, spokesman at the ELCA’s Chicago-based headquarters, said Lutheran CORE’s move was not unexpected. He expressed hope that church members would ultimately opt to stay in the denomination as it strives to be “a place for all people despite any differences we might have on any issues.”

Neither Brooks nor Lutheran CORE leaders would guess what kind of numbers a new denomination might attract. Lutheran CORE leaders believe there is deep opposition to the new policy among rank-and-file churchgoers, but said some may not be willing to actually depart the ELCA over it.

Brooks said the ELCA has not seen significant departures yet, but he cautioned it’s too soon after the August decision to read much into that.

So far, he said, five congregations nationwide have voted to leave the ELCA. More have started the process, with 87 taking a first vote to leave the denomination. Of those, 28 did not achieve the two-thirds vote necessary to leave the ELCA. In all, there are 10,300 ELCA churches in the country with about 4.7 million members.

If a congregation passes the two-thirds bar on its first vote, it must then wait 90 days before taking a second, final vote that also requires a two-thirds majority.

Other Christian denominations have seen factions split off over the gay clergy debate. In 2003, the 2 million-member Episcopal Church consecrated its first openly gay bishop, a move that alienated American Episcopalians from its worldwide parent, the Anglican Communion. The divide has led to the formation of the more conservative Anglican Church in North America, which claims 100,000 members.

In addition to helping birth a new Lutheran church body, Lutheran CORE leaders said their organization would continue its recent move toward creating a free-floating synod within the ELCA for congregations opposed to the liberalized policy but who don’t want to leave the denomination.

Lutheran CORE has also urged supportive congregations to stop paying so-called mission support funds that help supplement the ELCA’s operating budget. Last weekend, ELCA leaders reduced their 2010 operating budget by $7.7 million, a move Brooks said was motivated mainly by the U.S. economy but also in part by an expected drop in the mission funds.

Ryan Schwarz, a Lutheran CORE member from Washington, D.C., is charged with leading the organizing effort for the new denomination. He said a committee would begin work immediately on drafting a constitution, building a budget and other steps needed to form the yet-unnamed denomination. They hope to have it ready to go by next August, he said.

“Many of us have spent years now struggling to call the ELCA to remain faithful to the Orthodox Christianity of the last 2,000 years,” Schwarz said. “While this is of course a wrenching decision, there is also a sense of hope in refocusing on our true mission, which is evangelizing the Lutheran faith.”


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  • Terryinindy Said: November 19th, 2009 at 9:51 am
    • So what are they going to call their new Cult? The “Haterans”? The “Holier-than-Thouerans”? Bigotry is bigotry regardless whether it holds a “constitution” or not.

  • Morgan Said: November 19th, 2009 at 10:12 am
    • I could care less what these conservative believers be they Lutherans or Episcopalians do. I am sticking to my liberal Episcopal cult. I love my liberal cult.

      Everyone is entitled to their own cult, be it atheism, or belief or whatever.

  • Jacquemar Said: November 19th, 2009 at 10:15 am
    • I personally feel that if a religion is going to start excluding people, or has enough to fund something like Prop. 8, then they should start paying taxes!

  • Dr. Ian Said: November 19th, 2009 at 11:00 am
    • This is really sad. I have been personally affected by this. A best friend of 22 years left the Lutheran Church over the issue of gay leadership. His children, other family members, and I have confronted him about this bigotry towards gay people. He still claims to have the love of God in him–tragic, isn’t it.

      His children, all of whom are straight, really see the hypocrisy. So when religious people say we gays are “pushing our agenda on their children” to convert them to our cause, they are doing more to change the minds of heterosexual youth than we are. God is love, not hate.

  • RobertinWestbury Said: November 19th, 2009 at 11:16 am
    • Doesn’t sound much like a ‘best friend’ to me Dr. Ian, but I have to say I admire his children. I feel bad for you. His rejection has to hurt..

  • Dr. Ian Said: November 19th, 2009 at 11:48 am
    • Hi Robert–former best friend is a more accurate way of putting it. My other best friend, also a straight guy, can’t believe all of this. He has shown himself to be the true best friend and I love him even more for it.

      Three years ago, my former best friend’s daughter found out I was gay via my Facebook page. She has been friends with a kid who has two mommies. In fact, she has spent entire days over at the gay women’s house. However, my former best friend REFUSED to tell his two sons I am gay. This went on for nearly three years. I threatened to not speak to him until he did so (and I followed-up on that threat.) This broke my heart since I not only loved my former best friend, but love the kids as well.

      Apparently climate change is occurring in Hell, because this summer, he told the boys I’m gay. I went on a visit a few months ago to see them all and nothing has changed between the kids and me. However, EVERYTHING has changed between my former best friend and me. We barely spoke to each other the entire time. His sister told me about him leaving the Lutheran church over gay leadership.

      I have gone through all the stages of grief over all of this. I feel happiness I have the love and support of the kids. As for my former best friend, I really don’t feel much of anything at all.

      He is bigoted towards gay people and sexist towards women. (Why is it ok for his daughter to know I’m gay and for her to hang out at a lesbian’s house, but the world would come to an end if his sons knew?) I told him that he obviously doesn’t value his daughter as much as his sons.

  • KaninZ Said: November 19th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
    • Cool, get all the haters together in one political Party and one Church per denomination, then we’ll know who to boycott :)
      Gotta love it when the enemy does your intel work for ya!

  • secrity Said: November 19th, 2009 at 12:53 pm
    • “God is love, not hate.”

      Really? In my experience, most Christians and Muslins are full of hate toward gays and the same sex people we love. It is Christian hate that makes me have to say “same sex people we love” rather than “our husbands and wives”.

  • Dr. Ian Said: November 19th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
    • secrity: Unfortunately, Christians are RUINING Christ’s reputation!

  • RobertinWestbury Said: November 19th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
    • Dr. Ian,

      No expert here, but I suspect your former best friend may be a closet case (even if just a closet case bisexual), and his private thoughts are so out of whack with his religious views he can’t reconcile it. And when this issue came up, taking a stand by leaving was one way to deflect any suspicion others may have of him not being so totally straight.

      And he may fear this is hereditary and so his sons may also feel this way. In that event, he wouldn’t want them to accept it as okay in God’s eyes, so he didn’t want to expose them to the truth so that they wouldn’t see a positive example of what he fears..

      Just a possibility.

      Thank God you have another best friend..

  • Liam Sauer-Wooden Said: November 19th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
    • “God is love, not hate.”

      If by “God” you mean “YHWH”, then only hypothetically. Followers of Abrahamic faiths seem to need person to hate.

      As for the ELCA, we’re back to the pre-80’s: LCA (liberal) versus LC Missouri Synod (conservative).

  • RobertinWestbury Said: November 19th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
    • In my mind, when conservatives of any religion that seeks to open up to us threaten to leave, there are only two proper words to respond to them with:

      Good riddance.

  • Dr. Ian Said: November 19th, 2009 at 8:48 pm
    • Robert,

      Thanks for the comments. You know, this guy is someone I would say is about as straight as they come. However, I have come to realize that NOBODY is as straight as they claim.

      He has a VERY controlling wife. I know she has figured prominently in his actions (sad since a grown man should be in control of his own life). His mother was also very controlling. Is there a pattern here? I’m no expert either, Robert. I have very good reason to believe one of his sisters is lesbian.

  • Gene Tauber Said: November 20th, 2009 at 2:29 am
    • The idea that these clans would sit around and vote on who is worthy of God’s love and who isn’t is totally repugnant. When I fled the RC church, friends advised me to find a denomination that was accepting. The more I looked at the alternatives, the more bizarre the entire idea of church became to me. I’m glad to be rid of the entire mess.

      Let’s meditate for a moment on what Jesus said about homosexuality: nothing.

  • Domanik - Aust Said: November 20th, 2009 at 5:28 am
    • In a context, a split in a church is quite a significant thing to occur. I am reminded of a quote which I don’t know if we’re at war persay but the divide and conquer quote as well as the together we stand, divided we fall quote apply in my view.

      In a way I respect the bible in that it guides toward morality for the most – but some of it is just ludicrous. The bible DIRECTLY relates women wearing the clothing of men as an equal crime to man laying with another man as with a woman.

      “Abomination”

      Seriously – the bible was written by man, and mankind are flawed therefore the bible is flawed. The only thing wrong with religion is the church.

 
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