Comments on: Navy investigates gay sailor’s death in Calif.

By: R & R

R & R — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 16:54:58 +0000

There will be pork in the tree tops when any of the armed services consider an act of violence as a “hate crime” if it is associated with a military person thought to be gay. And that is not so much different than what we see in civilian life.

By: QStorm7

QStorm7 — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 16:38:53 +0000

What happened to this young man is a tragedy, and it could have happened to any of us. Considering its in California where I was born,raised and live, it does not surprise me as a African-American women. Not just because he was African-American and gay serving his country in which we all know there is a huge problem if you know your (statics) with race and sexual orientation issues here in California, but because he was a human being and deserved to live and enjoy his life. My heart goes out to those who cherished and loved him.

By: Gerry Fisher

Gerry Fisher — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 20:28:32 +0000

>This is certainly a hate crime.

Wow! All this certainty coming from nine paragraphs on a web site.

We don’t need a court system…we’ll just hand it over to you guys, and you can use your crystal balls.

Patience, please! Let’s get more details.

By: Dave W

Dave W — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 17:26:20 +0000

uh, Steve from Vt, you left out christians….muslims and blacks are hardly the “two groups that hate us the most”. It is Christians and white closeted men.

And, by the way, I think MA is the marriage equality state. Beat you by about 5 years!!!!

By: drewski

drewski — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 18:29:42 +0000

Steve from VT–Tell me that was sarcasm. Otherwise, what the hell’s wrong with you?

By: Yhitzak

Yhitzak — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 11:50:55 +0000

Woah. Slow down, folks. This story highlights EXACTLY why we have a criminal justice system that includes investigation: so that we prosecute the ACTUAL criminal under the PROPER circumstances and not just throw blame around to the most convenient source. At this juncture, a “person of interest” is just that: a person of interest. And claiming a hate-crime before all the evidence has been released is to totally jump the gun. Not every gay person who dies of unnatural causes is the victim of hatred or bias, and it is entirely possible that the perpetrator of this crime didn’t know he was gay. Does that make it any better? Certainly freaking NOT! It’s time to sit back and watch and wait for the truth to come out; making accusations or speculating about this doesn’t do any of us any good.

And yeah, I’m with the other commentator who pointed out that this guy was killed on an armed-forces base and wasn’t found until hours later. Sounds like there’s more to this story than a mere element of homosexuality.

By: Steve from Vermont "the Marriage Equality state"!

Steve from Vermont "the Marriage Equality state"! — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 07:48:23 +0000

Sorry I do not get this quote:

“doesn’t appear to be a hate crime, officials said”

This is bullshit, IT WAS A HATE CRIME!!!

Well I must who are the officials? – you really have to questions their intergrity and intelligence!!!!!

Officials did not have their eyes open I must say when they did not “appear” to be smart. I must say then you have to quetion the whole US military on how dumb people in the US military really are!!!!

Obama 09 means = he hates the fuck out of us = KEEPS DADT and DOMA policy = more victims of hate crimes in the US military and on US soil.

Obama is both a Muslim and black – the two groups of people that HATE gays [I voted for Hillary]. With a middle name of “Hussain”, surly he would have to be a Muslim!!!

By: Southernhemisphere

Southernhemisphere — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 20:52:48 +0000

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By: Mark from Maine (vote YES for Marriage Equality in November!)

Mark from Maine (vote YES for Marriage Equality in November!) — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 16:32:20 +0000

I blame Obama, and I HATE Obama for not repealing or making DADT “null and void”!!!! He should have signed an ORDER putting a stop to the policy, but what did he do – he continued with this 1993 policy!!!!

What ANGERS me is that criminals and the worst of the worst can serve but a gay man can not????????!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh yes it is a great policy indeed [NOT]!!!!

[But then again Obama is black and black people are homophobic and recently voted FOR Prop 8 in "redneck and going-backward" California!!!!]

DADT policy has killed and bashed many gay people, who are excellent marines and soildiers who fight for OUR FREEDOM, the policy has caused 9/11 because the interpetars were fired a week prior of that happening. Marines are great –
I know I sleeped with one!!!!

Remember these names Obama (the people you let down)
* Allen R. Schindler, Jr.
* Barry Winchell (not gay, but was “thought” to be gay)
* Timothy R. McVeigh

Sources:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don‘t_ask,_don’t_tell

http://www.sldn.org/pages/sldn-report-7

By: Tim

Tim — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 16:29:50 +0000

This is certainly a hate crime. Where were the other guards at the gate? There are always multiple guards at these checkpoints, did they committ the crime themselves?