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		<title>By: Stuff Queer People Need To Know</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/news/nationwide-protests-put-human-face-on-gay-marriage-battle/comment-page-1/#comment-43552</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuff Queer People Need To Know</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 18:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really can&#039;t wait to see what unfolds in that Prop. 8 hearing. That could set precedence for the rest of the country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really can&#8217;t wait to see what unfolds in that Prop. 8 hearing. That could set precedence for the rest of the country.</p>
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		<title>By: Gene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 02:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In John Corvino’s blog, he made an important point: legal marriage for same-sex couples does not create anything that does not already exist.  Legal marriage simply recognizes and confers benefits upon a relationship that already exists. This is true whether it is a hetero or homo couple. 

The denial of the existence of our relationships cannot cause the relationships to cease to exist. If I and my partner (whom I’ve yet to meet) wish to declare ourselves husbands and live in a de facto common law marriage, we’ve had basically the same effect on society as if we had gone through a legal ritual. The only things we would be missing are the legal benefits and responsibilities that others have.

And yet, with thousands of these de facto same-sex marriages already out there, society carries on. What harm can legal recognition do to “traditional” families that Chris Brown and Nadya Suleman have not already wreaked?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In John Corvino’s blog, he made an important point: legal marriage for same-sex couples does not create anything that does not already exist.  Legal marriage simply recognizes and confers benefits upon a relationship that already exists. This is true whether it is a hetero or homo couple. </p>
<p>The denial of the existence of our relationships cannot cause the relationships to cease to exist. If I and my partner (whom I’ve yet to meet) wish to declare ourselves husbands and live in a de facto common law marriage, we’ve had basically the same effect on society as if we had gone through a legal ritual. The only things we would be missing are the legal benefits and responsibilities that others have.</p>
<p>And yet, with thousands of these de facto same-sex marriages already out there, society carries on. What harm can legal recognition do to “traditional” families that Chris Brown and Nadya Suleman have not already wreaked?</p>
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		<title>By: SOLDIERinIRAQ</title>
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		<dc:creator>SOLDIERinIRAQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 18:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some things to put on a ballot next year:
*  Elderly people who cannot bear children should not be permitted to get married.
*  Barren females should be banned from getting married.
*  Traditional marriage has no place for the mixing of the races as the Bible shows and history shows.  So lets get that into the constitution too.
*  Lets have a time limit on marriages without children.  6 months? a year?  if you don&#039;t reproduce your marriage is void!
-If this is an institution which is protected only because of its effect on children.  Then lets make sure no one takes advantage that cannot and/or will not live up to this task.

Fortunately people marry these days not only because of children (although some do), or an arrangement (still in many cultures), or for money and to be &quot;taken care of&quot; (kinda the traditional role), but now they get married for love.  Women have mobilized and work outside of the home.  they can take care of themselves.  They don&#039;t NEED men for anything other than &#039;sperm&#039;.  It&#039;s love that brings us together and keeps us together.  Men and Women DO love members of the same sex.  If we as a society find it worthwhile to reward two people who have promised to take care of eachother.  Then gays should get married too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some things to put on a ballot next year:<br />
*  Elderly people who cannot bear children should not be permitted to get married.<br />
*  Barren females should be banned from getting married.<br />
*  Traditional marriage has no place for the mixing of the races as the Bible shows and history shows.  So lets get that into the constitution too.<br />
*  Lets have a time limit on marriages without children.  6 months? a year?  if you don&#8217;t reproduce your marriage is void!<br />
-If this is an institution which is protected only because of its effect on children.  Then lets make sure no one takes advantage that cannot and/or will not live up to this task.</p>
<p>Fortunately people marry these days not only because of children (although some do), or an arrangement (still in many cultures), or for money and to be &#8220;taken care of&#8221; (kinda the traditional role), but now they get married for love.  Women have mobilized and work outside of the home.  they can take care of themselves.  They don&#8217;t NEED men for anything other than &#8217;sperm&#8217;.  It&#8217;s love that brings us together and keeps us together.  Men and Women DO love members of the same sex.  If we as a society find it worthwhile to reward two people who have promised to take care of eachother.  Then gays should get married too!</p>
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		<title>By: RICK  N  NICK</title>
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		<dc:creator>RICK  N  NICK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 13:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MORGAN-THANKS FOR THE SUPPORT--IT ALL BOILS DOWN TO RELIGION AND ITS STRANGLE HOLD ON OUR STATE. ADAMS HAS TO GO- AND NONE TO  SOON -THERE IS A SAYING HERE THAT SUSSEX COUNTY-(OUR COUNTY) IS THE MOST NORTHERN COUNTY IN MISSISSIPPI- ITS AMAZING HOW MANY GAYS LIVE HERE -3 LARGE GAY TOWNS HERE BUT NOBODY WANTS TO GET INVOLVED-BUT NICK AND I AND A HANDFULL  ARE OUT TO CHANGE THINGS -HOPEFULLY THE GAYS HERE WILL WAKE UP -HOPEFULLY !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MORGAN-THANKS FOR THE SUPPORT&#8211;IT ALL BOILS DOWN TO RELIGION AND ITS STRANGLE HOLD ON OUR STATE. ADAMS HAS TO GO- AND NONE TO  SOON -THERE IS A SAYING HERE THAT SUSSEX COUNTY-(OUR COUNTY) IS THE MOST NORTHERN COUNTY IN MISSISSIPPI- ITS AMAZING HOW MANY GAYS LIVE HERE -3 LARGE GAY TOWNS HERE BUT NOBODY WANTS TO GET INVOLVED-BUT NICK AND I AND A HANDFULL  ARE OUT TO CHANGE THINGS -HOPEFULLY THE GAYS HERE WILL WAKE UP -HOPEFULLY !!</p>
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		<title>By: Morgan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 04:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RICK N&#039; NICK, I have a home in DE also as well as in MD. I am an MD resident but no partner yet, so I am pleased that you guys tried to challenge an archaic law. It means much to me as a hopefully future partnered man as well as to actually partnered men like yourselves. I have driven around that traffic circle in Georgetown, DE by that same courthouse. So I know the area.

Best of luck. There could be one day a Delaware civil unions bill, while MD gay residents are pushing for MD marriage equality. But that depends in part on the departure of some of the homophobes like Thurman Adams one of the very worst from the DE state legislature. DE and MD are different. MD gays are gaining rights while DE gays in say liberal and very urban Rehoboth is surrounded some miles out by largely conservative rural areas.. Things in DE are slower and one DE gay guy I know of who stays on top of the legislative scene in DE says word has it that Adams who has a speaker position in the statehouse and at 79 likely retiring after his current term expires. And word has it that there could be a DE civil unions bill before. My contact also says that DE legislators have a tough &quot;noone will tell us what to do in DE&quot;.

They are very indifferent to the world outside of DE. indifferent to NJ civil unions and to the likelihood of NJ marriage equality on DE&#039;s northern border and to the possibility of marriage equality or to that of civil unions in MD on DE&#039;s western and southern borders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RICK N&#8217; NICK, I have a home in DE also as well as in MD. I am an MD resident but no partner yet, so I am pleased that you guys tried to challenge an archaic law. It means much to me as a hopefully future partnered man as well as to actually partnered men like yourselves. I have driven around that traffic circle in Georgetown, DE by that same courthouse. So I know the area.</p>
<p>Best of luck. There could be one day a Delaware civil unions bill, while MD gay residents are pushing for MD marriage equality. But that depends in part on the departure of some of the homophobes like Thurman Adams one of the very worst from the DE state legislature. DE and MD are different. MD gays are gaining rights while DE gays in say liberal and very urban Rehoboth is surrounded some miles out by largely conservative rural areas.. Things in DE are slower and one DE gay guy I know of who stays on top of the legislative scene in DE says word has it that Adams who has a speaker position in the statehouse and at 79 likely retiring after his current term expires. And word has it that there could be a DE civil unions bill before. My contact also says that DE legislators have a tough &#8220;noone will tell us what to do in DE&#8221;.</p>
<p>They are very indifferent to the world outside of DE. indifferent to NJ civil unions and to the likelihood of NJ marriage equality on DE&#8217;s northern border and to the possibility of marriage equality or to that of civil unions in MD on DE&#8217;s western and southern borders.</p>
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		<title>By: RICK  N  NICK</title>
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		<dc:creator>RICK  N  NICK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 03:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MY PARTNER AND I WENT TO THE COURTHOUSE IN GEORGETOWN DELAWARE AND ASKED FOR A LICENSE-WE WERE TOLD THEY COULD NOT MARRY US BECAUSE OF A LAW THAT HAS BEEN ON THE BOOKS FOR EVER AND EVER !!??  THEY WERE VERY NICE TO US BUT DID NOT HAVE A CLUE AS TO WHAT THE LAW WAS ABOUT HERE.THE RECEPTIONIST WAS VERY  KIND TO US AND WE LEFT WITHOUT CONFRONTATION. WE THEN LEFT  TO PROTEST IN OUR STATE CAPITAL OF DOVER, DE. WE GOT 60 SIGNATURES IN OUR FAVOR-NOT BAD !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MY PARTNER AND I WENT TO THE COURTHOUSE IN GEORGETOWN DELAWARE AND ASKED FOR A LICENSE-WE WERE TOLD THEY COULD NOT MARRY US BECAUSE OF A LAW THAT HAS BEEN ON THE BOOKS FOR EVER AND EVER !!??  THEY WERE VERY NICE TO US BUT DID NOT HAVE A CLUE AS TO WHAT THE LAW WAS ABOUT HERE.THE RECEPTIONIST WAS VERY  KIND TO US AND WE LEFT WITHOUT CONFRONTATION. WE THEN LEFT  TO PROTEST IN OUR STATE CAPITAL OF DOVER, DE. WE GOT 60 SIGNATURES IN OUR FAVOR-NOT BAD !!</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 00:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of the male protesters in New York City were wearing wedding vales.  Unfortunately the image of guys in lace is not going to gain support for equal marriage among the public that we need to win over to our side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of the male protesters in New York City were wearing wedding vales.  Unfortunately the image of guys in lace is not going to gain support for equal marriage among the public that we need to win over to our side.</p>
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		<title>By: Morgan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 22:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d be there if it weren&#039;t for my couny juror duty obligation in Maryland on the east coast the next morning of the 18th.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d be there if it weren&#8217;t for my couny juror duty obligation in Maryland on the east coast the next morning of the 18th.</p>
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		<title>By: LOrion</title>
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		<dc:creator>LOrion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 16:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In California we are also protesting on Monday, LOVE AND MARRIAGE DAY and Tuesday LOBBY DAY in Sacramento.  
Course I think it&#039;ll be raining...but that won&#039;t dampen spirits!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In California we are also protesting on Monday, LOVE AND MARRIAGE DAY and Tuesday LOBBY DAY in Sacramento.<br />
Course I think it&#8217;ll be raining&#8230;but that won&#8217;t dampen spirits!</p>
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