Comments on: Mormons began plotting against gay marriage for decade, memo shows

By: Bob

Bob — Wed, 10 Dec 2008 21:27:56 +0000

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints inspired its members to support the sanctity of marriage between a man and a woman as God has ordained it starting with Adam and Eve. It was not to gain favor from any other groups, however, politically speaking, the more united those in favor of traditional marriage are, the more likely marriage will be protected. Gays are welcome to invent a new term for the unions they wish to enter into with eachother. Religiously speaking, it is clear that homosexuality is no better than pedophilia or bestiality – shall we legalize those too?

By: Bergen

Bergen — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 07:06:35 +0000

I think that memo is not as others claim it to be. I a searched the internet and can not find it and I have read many articles on this so called memo and none quote more that 2 words which are “go ahead” and even that “quoted” words are inconsistent. I would not be surprised if the whole this is made up and people wrote their articles based on one false claim article. Where is your proof.

By: Marco Luxe

Marco Luxe — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 06:44:27 +0000

This is nothing new for the LDS. They were nearly completely responsible for the 1998 plebiscite that overrode the Hawaii Supreme Court decision allowing SSM. [May 1993] Hawaii was once a bright spot for equality. Hell, it once was a beautiful place with a Polynesian culture of tolerance and acceptance of human sexuality, then the missionaries arrived, primarily the Mormons. They’ve been at this for 15 years starting when they just overwhelmed Hawaii with Mormon millions.

By: William Sawyer

William Sawyer — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 02:36:14 +0000

I graduated from BYU with a Masters Degree in Social Work in 1998. While I was there I was taught the Church needed to do all it could to prevent gay marriage from becoming legal in order to keep married gays and lesbians from attending BYU. You see the LDS church requires that it students abstain from sex unless they are legally and lawfully married. This applies to everyone equally and thus they are not discriminating if a gay or lesbian is kicked out for having pre-marrital sex because they kick straight people out also. If gay marriage becomes the law of the land they will have to allow the GLBT community to attend BYU or risk losing the hundreds of millions of dollars a year that flows through 5 LDS church schools in the form of Pell Grants, Student Loans, research grants, scholarships, and other government funding. Plus the school receives acreditdation from numerous professional organizations that will pull those acreditdations. So the Mormon run universities have a lot to loose. This was taught to me in the classes I took to become a Masters Level social work. It all boils down to money. They are happy discriminating against us as long as they can keep their school funded by public tax dollars.

By: A BeachBum On STX

A BeachBum On STX — Thu, 13 Nov 2008 11:24:42 +0000

I’ll ask of all you posters and all who read this. Did you donate anything ? $5.00, 50.00, 100.00, 250.00, 500.00 ??

I live 4000 + miles From California in the Caribbean, and on my fixed income gave as much as I could afford. (not meager life savings) but way over 100.00 ! Just think, what if each of us had been able to give a little more… We may have one by 2 or 4 percent rather than losing by 3 or 4.

A friend told me of his cousin a young black woman, that after she walked out of the voting precinct was thinking about the wording. She had voted for the proposition, thinking she was voting for our rights. And when she heard the news the next day realized her mistake. — OH if we had just donated a bit more. Maybe she would have understood it better and voted as she truly wanted. *sigh* Give a little everyone! Give a LOT, those who can. Just Give to help!

By: John S

John S — Thu, 13 Nov 2008 10:32:05 +0000

I have read post in this blog of church burnings.

I can certainly understand the disappointment of prop 8 passing but church burnings is sure not the way to go.

First you will be battling every possible denomination possible and if you think the catholic and Mormon church
did some damage think of what it would be like if all 200 other denominations were fighting us also.

If even a few of do something so stupid that will convince the un commited to vote against us next time around.

True the black folks did things like that and things did change but at a terrible cost, and what they did, did not raise their standing in the public eye.

I am a Calif. native now living in Florida we had the same thing here only worse. Our prop 2 passed banning marriage but also banning civil unions too.

Be careful because there is a movement in the works to unwind the marriages (in Calif) that were left intact in Calif. That is their next move.

My Gay brothers and sisters in Calif. You have no time to waste. Do not sit idol. Start to organize with constant demonstrations every week with out letting up.

The opposition thinks this will simmer down and you will finally go away.

If you don’t keep up the demonstrations and make your cause in the headlines you will lose big time and they win.

Remember the sweekest wheel gets the grease.

Make sure the next campaign is not run by anyone from the Log Cabin Republican Party.

How anyone can be a republican and gay is beyond me, and I have heard every argument they have put up, but I have never trusted them.

By: DJ Lee

DJ Lee — Thu, 13 Nov 2008 01:49:14 +0000

LDS Church MEMBERS donated the money to pass Prop 8- not the church itself. Also, the buildings damaged were CHAPELS, not temples. (I am for Gay Marriage but am an expert on and just wanted to set the story straight-No pun intended!)

By: Canada

Canada — Thu, 13 Nov 2008 01:37:58 +0000

Why do you Americans allow organized religions to make political donations? Isn’t that a violation of your constitution? Shouldn’t these churches lose their charitable status and be listed as lobbyists? In Canada, the Knights of Columbus (Catholic)from the USA were actively involved with trying to stop same-sex marriage in Canada.

By: Will

Will — Thu, 13 Nov 2008 00:41:17 +0000

As Mormon i very sad of my church for what they did. and not very happy. that why i will resign from my church and there nothing else to say about this mormon church is not true on their issues have never been. it time for gays to stand together and fight what is a right equal for all. let do what we need to do

By: Taka

Taka — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 23:55:33 +0000

Some people, huh? These people need to sing some songs with us and cherish the time that we have on Earth instead of condemning us all.