Comments on: Measure submitted to dump Calif. gay marriage ban

By: randy

randy — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 00:02:15 +0000

Look at the actual language. This is not simply a Prop 8 repeal.

It also limits marriage to two people, and lists who can’t be discriminated against. That list doesn’t include physical disability or elderliness.

It boggles the mind why they didn’t simply strike out the Prop 8 language.

By: Jay

Jay — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 23:40:10 +0000

I think we need to go for it in 2010. It may be that more “conservatives” vote in off-year elections than in Presidential elections. But in 2010, the Democratic candidate for Governor will be a strong supporter of same-sex marriage. In 2012, both the Democratic and Republican candidates for President will be against same-sex marriage. Moreover, Obama will attract enormous numbers of religious minorities. They are not going to vote for same-sex marriage. The demographic that can be moved are Republican libertarians. With Republicans like Steven Schmidt, Theodor Olson, and Megan McCain, we can cut into the 90% of Republicans who voted for Proposition 8. If we can get just 25 to 30 per cent of them, that would make the difference.

By: DaveW

DaveW — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 23:28:40 +0000

I don’t know the right answer but good for them for trying. Too bad comments like the envious Mark Daniel Snyder pop up. what is the point about their wealth except you’re jealous?

By: Mark Daniel Snyder

Mark Daniel Snyder — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 22:26:42 +0000

Love Honor Cherish is headed by 7 very wealthy men, all white but one. They have no experience in collaboration building, and true grassroots organizing. The 40 groups who supposedly support this ballot initiative consist mostly of people who set up simple websites posing as real organizations. Most experts and organizations – both established and grassroots- support a 2012 measure.

By: MoJo

MoJo — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 20:58:01 +0000

Putting language in the ballot proposal, exempting churches, makes no difference because it’s Never been the issue. The people who oppose our rights, do so for one reason only-Bigotry. Surprise!

By: bobweekend

bobweekend — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 19:08:25 +0000

I say go for it. Worst case is you spend a ton of money and have to do it again in 2012.

By: Kelson

Kelson — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 19:07:54 +0000

If this appears on the ballot the organizations supporting this move must be prepared to confront in the media the belligenent intolerance that is the bulwark of the Christian Taliban. The tools of their trade are fear, intimidation, and distortions. Each lie must be clearly contradicted. You cannot play “nice” with these people. If we do, we will lose again.