November 21st, 2009
 

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McCain, Obama clash over financial crisis


(Nashville, Tennessee) Barack Obama and John McCain clashed repeatedly over the causes and cures for the worst economic crisis in 80 years Tuesday night in a debate in which Republican McCain called for a sweeping $300 billion program to shield homeowners from mortgage foreclosure.

“It’s my proposal. It’s not Sen. Obama’s proposal,” McCain said at the outset of a debate he hoped could revive his fortunes in a presidential race trending toward his rival.

In one pointed confrontation on foreign policy, Obama bluntly challenged McCain’s steadiness. “This is a guy who sang bomb, bomb, bomb Iran, who called for the annihilation of North Korea – that I don’t think is an example of speaking softly.”

That came after McCain accused him of foolishly threatening to invade Pakistan and said, “I’m not going to telegraph my punches, which is what Sen. Obama did.”

The debate was the second of three between the two major party rivals, and the only one to feature a format in which voters seated a few feet away posed questions to the candidates.

They were polite, but the strain of the campaign showed. At one point, McCain referred to Obama as “that one,” rather than speaking his name.

“It’s good to be with you at a town hall meeting,” McCain also jabbed at his rival, who has spurned the Republican’s calls for numerous such joint appearances across the fall campaign.

They debated on a stage at Belmont University four weeks before Election Day in a race that has lately favored Obama, both in national polls and in surveys in pivotal battleground states.

Not surprisingly, many of the questions dealt with an economy in trouble.

Obama said the current crisis was the “final verdict on the failed economic policies of the last eight years” that President Bush pursued and were “supported by Sen. McCain.”

He contended that Bush, McCain and others had favored deregulation of the financial industry, predicting that would “let markets run wild and prosperity would rain down on all of us. It didn’t happen.”

McCain’s pledge to have the government help individual homeowners avoid foreclosure went considerably beyond the $700 billion bailout that recently cleared Congress. While he said bailout money should be used to help homeowners, the bailout legislation merely gave the Treasury Department authority to purchase mortgages directly.

“I would order the secretary of the Treasury to immediately buy up the bad home loan mortgages in America and renegotiate at the new value of those homes at the diminished value of those homes and let people be able to make those payments and stay in their homes,” he said.

“Is it expensive? Yes. But we all know, my friends, until we stabilize home values in America, we’re never going to start turning around and creating jobs and fixing our economy, and we’ve got to get some trust and confidence back to America.”

McCain also said it was important to reform the giant benefit programs such as Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security.

“My friends, we are not going to be able to provide the same benefit for present-day workers that present-day retirees have today,” he said, although he did not elaborate.

The two men also competed to demonstrate their qualifications as reformers at a time voters are clamoring for change.

McCain accused Obama of being the Senate’s second-highest recipient of donations from individuals at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the two now-disgraced mortgage industry giants.

“There were some of us who stood up against it,” McCain said of the lead-up to the financial crisis. “There were others who took a hike.”

Obama shot back that McCain’s campaign manager, Rick Davis, has a stake in a Washington lobbying firm that received thousands of dollars a month from Freddie Mac until recently.

Pivoting quickly to show his concern with members of the audience listening from a few feet away, he said, “You’re not interested in politicians pointing fingers. What you’re interested in is trying to figure out, how is this going to impact you.”

But that didn’t stop the two men from criticizing one another repeatedly as the topics turned to energy, spending, taxes and health care.

Obama said McCain was going to require taxes on the health benefits workers receive from their employers at the same time his plan would wipe out the ability of states to enforce their own regulations to require tests such as mammograms.

McCain countered that under his rival’s plan “Sen. Obama will fine you” if parents fail to obtain coverage for their children but had yet to say what the fine would be. “Perhaps we will find that out tonight,” he said.

Obama quickly followed up, saying that McCain “voted against the expansion” of the children’s health care program the government runs.

The two men prefer dramatically different approaches to easing the problem of millions of uninsured Americans. McCain favors a $5,000 tax credit that he says would allow families to find and afford health care on their own.

Obama wants to build on the current system, in which millions receive coverage through the workplace, with government funding to help uninsured families obtain coverage.

Obama also said that American International Group Inc., which was bailed out by the government, should give the Treasury $440,000 to cover the costs of a company retreat at a posh California resort less than a week after the federal intervention. “Those executives should be fired,” he said, referring to the participants in the retreat.

The debate also veered into foreign policy, and the disputes were as intense as on the economy and domestic matters.

McCain said his rival “was wrong about Iraq and the surge. He was wrong about Russia when they committed aggression against Georgia. And in his short career he does not understand our national security challenges. We don’t have time for on the job training.”

Obama countered with a trace of sarcasm that he didn’t understand some things – like how the United States could face the challenge in does in Afghanistan after spending years and hundreds of billions of dollars in Iraq.

The audience was selected by Gallup, the polling organization, and was split three ways among voters leaning toward McCain, those leaning toward Obama and those undecided.

Tom Brokaw of NBC, the moderator, screened their questions and also chose others that had been submitted online.


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  • Morgan Said: October 9th, 2008 at 12:22 am
    • Obama sounded and looked youthful, strong, confident, quick-witted and with a vision for the USA. There are many challenges in the world and at home for the USA and countries and leaders take joy in a less and less influential USA with big problems of its own back home and abroad.

      McCain’s big, saggy, baggy, droopy bassett-hound face and whiny voice do not inspire hope in me. Even if I were McCain’s age and I looked and sounded as he does like an old hound dog, (I know I will look like him one day, myself) I would still feel the same way. Obama’s performance inspires me and gives me hope. He may be right and helpful or he may be wrong and I will feel like a fool for voting for him, at least he gives me the impression that he and not McCain is ready to lead even though Obama’s short US Senatorial experience makes me somewhat nervous. At least Obama acts like he is ready to lead, and he has in Biden a seasoned and experienced US senator for VP. McCain looks like it won’t be long until he will need to let Palin finish his term as president for him.

  • Kari Said: October 8th, 2008 at 4:48 am
    • I didn’t watch the debate itself, and while I don’t think it is logically possible for a person to ‘win’ a debate, it certainly seems Sen. Obama offered a better performance than Sen. McCain.

      That said, I don’t think, from the article and other reading, that it was so much Sen. Obama doing well per se, so much as Sen. McCain doing really poorly. Sen. Obama had his fair share of idiotic comments, such as blaming the financial crisis on McCain, but they still don’t outweigh the idiocy of McCain’s brilliant forclosure-protection contribution.

      Nonetheless, if the 365gay poll from a few days ago accurately represents the US population, most Americans don’t watch the debates with an open mind anyway.

      Unrelated, on a housekeeping note, I wish the moderators were not all elderly white men. For a race that has been characterized by some as one of the most diverse in US history, the media has let me down by not injecting a dose of color or *gasp* a woman into the mix.

  • JohnM Said: October 8th, 2008 at 1:19 am
    • I totally agree with Chris Sullivan. Obama answered every question in a relaxed and confident manner, and explained why his policies would help get the country out of the Bush created financial crisis and Iraq mess, while nd improving our national security in the process. Obama also explained why McCains’s past votes on critical domestic and foreign policy issues led this country into our current huge mess, and McCain did not even refute these assertions. To be candid, McCain seemed like a defensive, egotistical old man. Hands down an Obama win in my book.

  • Chris Sullivan Said: October 8th, 2008 at 12:39 am
    • Obama won this debate without question. No truly objective person can honestly assert a McCain win here. It appears that when confronted with serious issues, McCain/Palin offer no useful alternatives but instead resort to increasingly desperate rhetoric and innuendo to build their fragile case. McCain is no maverick – far from it. He is a gambler… and that is the one kind of personality we definitely cannot afford to have in the White House at this point in our history. I wasn’t sure how well Obama would do in this Town Hall style debate – but it appears, from virtually all the mainstream media polls, that Obama won handily.

 
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