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	<title>Comments on: Marriage in Maine is down to the wire</title>
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		<title>By: Scott T. Littlefield</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/news/marriage-in-maine-is-down-to-the-wire/comment-page-2/#comment-75018</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott T. Littlefield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 15:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a great clip Equality Maine has been promoting.  Very touching!  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrEbJBFWIPk</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a great clip Equality Maine has been promoting.  Very touching!  <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrEbJBFWIPk" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrEbJBFWIPk</a></p>
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		<title>By: Scott T. Littlefield</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/news/marriage-in-maine-is-down-to-the-wire/comment-page-1/#comment-74952</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott T. Littlefield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 14:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the votes could be there for a win, but turn out will be everything.  The liberals do not always turn out for off-year elections and that is what may sink us in the end.  The anti-equality churches will have busses to get people to the polls so it is CRITICAL that we ask/beg/prod/cajole all persons liberal on this issue to get to the voting booths on election day.  We should be identifying and assisting supporters who may need a ride to their polling locations as well!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the votes could be there for a win, but turn out will be everything.  The liberals do not always turn out for off-year elections and that is what may sink us in the end.  The anti-equality churches will have busses to get people to the polls so it is CRITICAL that we ask/beg/prod/cajole all persons liberal on this issue to get to the voting booths on election day.  We should be identifying and assisting supporters who may need a ride to their polling locations as well!</p>
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		<title>By: Gerry Fisher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gerry Fisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 14:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IMO, if we lose Maine, it won&#039;t be due to poor organization from pro-marriage-equality forces. From what I&#039;ve seen, they&#039;ve run an excellent campaign.

It&#039;s *really* *hard* to campaign against fears of what &quot;might&quot; happen should a state get marriage equality. People really need a year or two of experiencing it before they can let go of irrational fears. For example, there&#039;s no way they&#039;ll be able to reverse Iowa, because they can&#039;t attempt to take it away for a year or two...by then, the truth will win out, because they will have had the experience of marriage equality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMO, if we lose Maine, it won&#8217;t be due to poor organization from pro-marriage-equality forces. From what I&#8217;ve seen, they&#8217;ve run an excellent campaign.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s *really* *hard* to campaign against fears of what &#8220;might&#8221; happen should a state get marriage equality. People really need a year or two of experiencing it before they can let go of irrational fears. For example, there&#8217;s no way they&#8217;ll be able to reverse Iowa, because they can&#8217;t attempt to take it away for a year or two&#8230;by then, the truth will win out, because they will have had the experience of marriage equality.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerry Fisher</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/news/marriage-in-maine-is-down-to-the-wire/comment-page-1/#comment-74949</link>
		<dc:creator>Gerry Fisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 13:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dunno. People tend to poll &quot;I&#039;m cool&quot; and then vote more conservatively. It doesn&#039;t *always* happen that way--we didn&#039;t see that when Deval Patrick was elected as governor here in MA. But it&#039;s often the case.

Every time it&#039;s been close in the polls, we&#039;ve lost. 

I *hate* that our rights are up for a vote....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dunno. People tend to poll &#8220;I&#8217;m cool&#8221; and then vote more conservatively. It doesn&#8217;t *always* happen that way&#8211;we didn&#8217;t see that when Deval Patrick was elected as governor here in MA. But it&#8217;s often the case.</p>
<p>Every time it&#8217;s been close in the polls, we&#8217;ve lost. </p>
<p>I *hate* that our rights are up for a vote&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: randy</title>
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		<dc:creator>randy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 23:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;when the No votes –against a ballot measure— fall below 50 percent, the proposal loses –at least seven times out of 10.&quot;

With math like this, it&#039;s no wonder Bush got elected in 2000.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;when the No votes –against a ballot measure— fall below 50 percent, the proposal loses –at least seven times out of 10.&#8221;</p>
<p>With math like this, it&#8217;s no wonder Bush got elected in 2000.</p>
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		<title>By: Yukkuri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yukkuri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 22:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been following this from the start, and I cannot stress how good of a job the No on 1 campaign is doing. Jesse Connolly is doing a GREAT job of managing the campaign. This is not Prop 8, everyone has learned their mistakes from that dilemma.

Honestly, the best way you can keep up with our movement is to visit blogs. Personally, I frequent Pam&#039;s House Blend (pamshouseblend.com) and they have Mainers covering it on an almost daily basis. 

If you want specifics on how we&#039;re doing this? People are flying in from across the country on &#039;volunteer vacations&#039; to help canvass, phone bank, etc. Several Blenders are doing that, themselves. The ActBlue page donating to No on 1 from PHB is in the top 10 or so contributors, I think.

Every ad that Yes on 1 has rolled out has been immediately, quickly and succinctly countered by the No on 1 campaign. We have outfunded them by millions of dollars. They are $460,000 in debt right now and we are still going strong.

The National Organization of Marriage is now being investigated by the Maine Council of Ethics. They are the second largest donor, as stated in this article.

Catholics are leaving their churches in droves to protest against the Diocese, forming the &#039;Catholics for Marriage Equality&#039;. Did I mention that Evanna Lynch, the girl that plays Luna Lovegood in the Harry Potter movies, is coming to Maine on the 23rd to host a concert with the &#039;Harry Potter Alliance&#039;, asking &#039;What Would Dumbledore Do?&#039; to support No on 1?  

Just about every major newspaper in Maine has come out with full-fledged, front-page articles pointing out the lies of the Yes on 1 campaign.

Various legal and psychological associations stationed in Maine have released statements endorsing the No on 1 campaign.

No on 1 realizes that this is an off-year election, so they&#039;ve been specifically visiting college campuses to speak to the students and phone banking single people- the ones least likely to vote in this situation.

Seriously- WE CAN WIN THIS. I CANNOT stress how powerful a statement it will be if we, for the first time ever, successfully defend our civil rights. It&#039;ll be a total trifecta- it was approved by the legislature, approved by the executive governor, AND withstood the will of the people!

And again, one last plug: pamshouseblend.com . Probably the best place you can go to get real, by-the-hour updates on gay-related and political news.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been following this from the start, and I cannot stress how good of a job the No on 1 campaign is doing. Jesse Connolly is doing a GREAT job of managing the campaign. This is not Prop 8, everyone has learned their mistakes from that dilemma.</p>
<p>Honestly, the best way you can keep up with our movement is to visit blogs. Personally, I frequent Pam&#8217;s House Blend (pamshouseblend.com) and they have Mainers covering it on an almost daily basis. </p>
<p>If you want specifics on how we&#8217;re doing this? People are flying in from across the country on &#8216;volunteer vacations&#8217; to help canvass, phone bank, etc. Several Blenders are doing that, themselves. The ActBlue page donating to No on 1 from PHB is in the top 10 or so contributors, I think.</p>
<p>Every ad that Yes on 1 has rolled out has been immediately, quickly and succinctly countered by the No on 1 campaign. We have outfunded them by millions of dollars. They are $460,000 in debt right now and we are still going strong.</p>
<p>The National Organization of Marriage is now being investigated by the Maine Council of Ethics. They are the second largest donor, as stated in this article.</p>
<p>Catholics are leaving their churches in droves to protest against the Diocese, forming the &#8216;Catholics for Marriage Equality&#8217;. Did I mention that Evanna Lynch, the girl that plays Luna Lovegood in the Harry Potter movies, is coming to Maine on the 23rd to host a concert with the &#8216;Harry Potter Alliance&#8217;, asking &#8216;What Would Dumbledore Do?&#8217; to support No on 1?  </p>
<p>Just about every major newspaper in Maine has come out with full-fledged, front-page articles pointing out the lies of the Yes on 1 campaign.</p>
<p>Various legal and psychological associations stationed in Maine have released statements endorsing the No on 1 campaign.</p>
<p>No on 1 realizes that this is an off-year election, so they&#8217;ve been specifically visiting college campuses to speak to the students and phone banking single people- the ones least likely to vote in this situation.</p>
<p>Seriously- WE CAN WIN THIS. I CANNOT stress how powerful a statement it will be if we, for the first time ever, successfully defend our civil rights. It&#8217;ll be a total trifecta- it was approved by the legislature, approved by the executive governor, AND withstood the will of the people!</p>
<p>And again, one last plug: pamshouseblend.com . Probably the best place you can go to get real, by-the-hour updates on gay-related and political news.</p>
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		<title>By: audlindal</title>
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		<dc:creator>audlindal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 22:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because the polls looked good in California, $$ was raised and endorsements came from news sources, government figures and even celebrities, I thought Prop 8 would be close but would not pass. 
This one scares me to death.

Please comment on the &quot;get out the vote&quot; efforts that are being organized in Maine. And what are they doing to counter the red herring education commercials?

We can&#039;t let another group defeat us, deny our basic rights through the use of lies and misrepresentation and fear! especially cloaked in religion and morality...

I donated and now I&#039;m holding my breath and hoping for all of you.

Could someone post addresses of places we can write? Op/ed letters, letters  to the ed, etc.? Is there something we can do from the midwest to support the fight in Maine?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because the polls looked good in California, $$ was raised and endorsements came from news sources, government figures and even celebrities, I thought Prop 8 would be close but would not pass.<br />
This one scares me to death.</p>
<p>Please comment on the &#8220;get out the vote&#8221; efforts that are being organized in Maine. And what are they doing to counter the red herring education commercials?</p>
<p>We can&#8217;t let another group defeat us, deny our basic rights through the use of lies and misrepresentation and fear! especially cloaked in religion and morality&#8230;</p>
<p>I donated and now I&#8217;m holding my breath and hoping for all of you.</p>
<p>Could someone post addresses of places we can write? Op/ed letters, letters  to the ed, etc.? Is there something we can do from the midwest to support the fight in Maine?</p>
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		<title>By: DaveW</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaveW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 19:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roberto Cucina:  I would happily get involved with your national movement.  Please advise.  I&#039;ve been doing this with my own phone and computer for years.

However, I need to clarify, as you say, they cannot endorse candidates or tell their flock who to vote for if they want to remain tax exempt.

But you say they cross that line every time an equality issue comes up.  I don&#039;t see how, they are issue advocating, not candidate advocating.  This is ok by IRS rules.

It is a very important distinction, because if we are going to use tax exemption as a stick, we need to change the law so they can&#039;t do issue advocacy either.  I happen to think that is very, very difficult.  If they give a Leviticus sermon, or they advocating for a yes on 1 vote for example?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roberto Cucina:  I would happily get involved with your national movement.  Please advise.  I&#8217;ve been doing this with my own phone and computer for years.</p>
<p>However, I need to clarify, as you say, they cannot endorse candidates or tell their flock who to vote for if they want to remain tax exempt.</p>
<p>But you say they cross that line every time an equality issue comes up.  I don&#8217;t see how, they are issue advocating, not candidate advocating.  This is ok by IRS rules.</p>
<p>It is a very important distinction, because if we are going to use tax exemption as a stick, we need to change the law so they can&#8217;t do issue advocacy either.  I happen to think that is very, very difficult.  If they give a Leviticus sermon, or they advocating for a yes on 1 vote for example?</p>
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		<title>By: AndreasLights</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/news/marriage-in-maine-is-down-to-the-wire/comment-page-1/#comment-74915</link>
		<dc:creator>AndreasLights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The issue of school curricula is a red herring: Equal rights for all citizens SHOULD be axiomatic or &quot;given&quot; and not open for discussion.

Gay people exist, as we know, and children will ask questions. It is better to develop age-appropriate responses to real questions students may ask than to leave it up to teachers to decide how deeply to delve or how accepting to be.

Marriage equality exists, regardless of Maine&#039;s unconstitutional use of the referendum process or the result either way. So why wouldn&#039;t teachers answer children&#039;s questions about this or any other subject?

This exact same discussion, by the way, came up in the 1980s over HIV education.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The issue of school curricula is a red herring: Equal rights for all citizens SHOULD be axiomatic or &#8220;given&#8221; and not open for discussion.</p>
<p>Gay people exist, as we know, and children will ask questions. It is better to develop age-appropriate responses to real questions students may ask than to leave it up to teachers to decide how deeply to delve or how accepting to be.</p>
<p>Marriage equality exists, regardless of Maine&#8217;s unconstitutional use of the referendum process or the result either way. So why wouldn&#8217;t teachers answer children&#8217;s questions about this or any other subject?</p>
<p>This exact same discussion, by the way, came up in the 1980s over HIV education.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Katz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Katz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It might have been helpful to point out that the reason the most recent &quot;Yes on 1&quot; ad no longer appears is that NPR filed a &quot;cease and desist&quot; order to prevent their footage being used in the campaign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It might have been helpful to point out that the reason the most recent &#8220;Yes on 1&#8243; ad no longer appears is that NPR filed a &#8220;cease and desist&#8221; order to prevent their footage being used in the campaign.</p>
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