Comments on: Louisiana to appeal gay parent ruling http://www.365gay.com/news/louisiana-to-appeal-gay-parent-ruling/ The daily news source for the gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender community Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:24:32 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Kenny http://www.365gay.com/news/louisiana-to-appeal-gay-parent-ruling/comment-page-1/#comment-38467 Kenny Fri, 09 Jan 2009 10:27:34 +0000 http://www.365gay.com/?p=4689#comment-38467 A birth certificate should reflect the legal, not genetic, parents. Louisiana knows it will lose this suit. The 10th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled on this issue in 2007. It clearly stated that adoption decrees must be recognized by all states. Adoption decrees, unlike marriage licenses, are judgements issued by a court. A birth certificate should reflect the legal, not genetic, parents. Louisiana knows it will lose this suit. The 10th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled on this issue in 2007. It clearly stated that adoption decrees must be recognized by all states. Adoption decrees, unlike marriage licenses, are judgements issued by a court.

]]> By: David in Dallas http://www.365gay.com/news/louisiana-to-appeal-gay-parent-ruling/comment-page-1/#comment-37861 David in Dallas Mon, 05 Jan 2009 19:07:16 +0000 http://www.365gay.com/?p=4689#comment-37861 As an adopted 60 year old, I'm not able to identify who my father was because my mother refused to give his name at my birth. In retrospect, because of medical advancements, this was a big mistake. It's even bigger now that my birth mother is now 93 and has forgotten his name. So I'll probably never know. I believe that the original birth certificate should include the birth parent info, and the adoption papers include the names of all addoptive parents. If the adoption is a multi-step process, then each step should be documented. The child, as an adult, should have complete access to the entire paper trail. As an adopted 60 year old, I’m not able to identify who my father was because my mother refused to give his name at my birth. In retrospect, because of medical advancements, this was a big mistake. It’s even bigger now that my birth mother is now 93 and has forgotten his name. So I’ll probably never know.

I believe that the original birth certificate should include the birth parent info, and the adoption papers include the names of all addoptive parents. If the adoption is a multi-step process, then each step should be documented. The child, as an adult, should have complete access to the entire paper trail.

]]> By: Phil http://www.365gay.com/news/louisiana-to-appeal-gay-parent-ruling/comment-page-1/#comment-37858 Phil Mon, 05 Jan 2009 18:53:35 +0000 http://www.365gay.com/?p=4689#comment-37858 Jay, there are many problems with what you suggest. The birth certificate is one of the most common basic forms of ID we have in this country. It needs to reflect who the child is now, otherwise, you set up the child for a lifetime of drudging around paperwork just to establish his or her identity. Now I'd be in favor of maintaining all former birth certificates of someone to have available, which I'm not sure is happening right now, but until someone comes up with a streamlined, fully accepted form of ID like the birth certificate, it will always need to reflect the child's current name and parentage. Also, think about the children coming from horrible situations of rape, incest, and abuse. Should they bear the burden of being required to present a document on demand that will forever label them as the child of a rapist, or someone who traumatised them so badly that they had to be taken out of their home and be raised by someone else? Jay, there are many problems with what you suggest. The birth certificate is one of the most common basic forms of ID we have in this country. It needs to reflect who the child is now, otherwise, you set up the child for a lifetime of drudging around paperwork just to establish his or her identity. Now I’d be in favor of maintaining all former birth certificates of someone to have available, which I’m not sure is happening right now, but until someone comes up with a streamlined, fully accepted form of ID like the birth certificate, it will always need to reflect the child’s current name and parentage. Also, think about the children coming from horrible situations of rape, incest, and abuse. Should they bear the burden of being required to present a document on demand that will forever label them as the child of a rapist, or someone who traumatised them so badly that they had to be taken out of their home and be raised by someone else?

]]> By: Jay http://www.365gay.com/news/louisiana-to-appeal-gay-parent-ruling/comment-page-1/#comment-37824 Jay Mon, 05 Jan 2009 15:56:10 +0000 http://www.365gay.com/?p=4689#comment-37824 I am sure that Louisiana is acting from bias and I have no intent to defend them. But I wonder about the efficacy of changing birth certificates in the first place. Adoption papers establish the legal relationship of adopted parents and their adopted children. Shouldn't birth certificates reflect the identity of the birth parent(s) of a child? I am sure that Louisiana is acting from bias and I have no intent to defend them. But I wonder about the efficacy of changing birth certificates in the first place. Adoption papers establish the legal relationship of adopted parents and their adopted children. Shouldn’t birth certificates reflect the identity of the birth parent(s) of a child?

]]> By: Sean http://www.365gay.com/news/louisiana-to-appeal-gay-parent-ruling/comment-page-1/#comment-37816 Sean Mon, 05 Jan 2009 14:12:43 +0000 http://www.365gay.com/?p=4689#comment-37816 Could this be one of those cases that end up paving the way against DOMA? Could this be one of those cases that end up paving the way against DOMA?

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