Comments on: Keep your word, gay group warns Congress

By: Gerry Fisher

Gerry Fisher — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 17:51:20 +0000

If the Green Party and/or Nader (or any other third-party contender) want legitimacy, NOW is the time to get to work. No fair disengaging and showing no leadership/vision for four years and then expecting a presidential vote at the 11th hour.

Obama showed how to generate a grassroots movement using the ‘net. Go to it, Green Party! Good luck.

By: Thomas

Thomas — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 18:08:08 +0000

I like the idea of a third party — this American two-party system is really just two heads on one beast, and of, by and for a homophobic plutocracy. And why we believe we are the only group that regularly gets nothing from government? Are we so sure about the truth of this? What about women and their inequalities including the right to choose? What about an African-American community where males are incarcerated at the highest rate in the world? Are they happy with this government?

I believe we get liberty at the local
level — the school boards, the city councils, the state Senates & Houses. Maybe we should shift our efforts towards local control because there we can form coalitions with others, and finally achieve representation. Obama? At heart he seems a homophobe, a man deprived of a normal family life, and a “promise them anything” kind of guy. Maybe he cannot help his failings, but I know I won’t support his candidacy in 2012 if he reniges on his promises.

By: The Menstruator

The Menstruator — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:46:34 +0000

We break down as a community because the “gay” “we” represents women, hispancis, cowboys, asians, blacks, right wing, left wing. We can’t just be “gay.” I’m a woman before I’m a lesbian, I will always be that before anything else. We can’t seem to resign to that fact that we are all human.
Killer to that is, if being Obama or GWB is “human,” i’m not really intrested in being that either.
I don’t think any group will be satisfied ever, especially since sexism is the silent killer that no one gives a crap about because men are clearly more important (STILL) and more intelligent. And better equipped to run the country. And the world. And anything else. they just can’t seem to control themselves.

By: Bud Evans

Bud Evans — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:30:09 +0000

James,

Yes, that information about Rev. Lowery was corrected — but not until I pointed the error out to you.

You’re welcome.

Sincerely,

Bud

http://rainfish2000.blogspot.com/2008/12/rev-joseph-lowery-obamas-so-called-old.html

By: TigerTzu

TigerTzu — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 14:36:00 +0000

Colin Said: “Anything that can polarize the new congress before they get vital changes made HAS TO BE avoided. “Demand” this stuff in a year or three, but for now expect country first, individual groups a far second.”

Bullshit! IF they can’t handle working on more than one thing at a time, then they don’t deserve to be in office. And tell me why exactly is it that working on civil rights, which is just as important as any issue in the country, means the economy (or any other issue) will suffer. There is always an excuse to be made for why our civil rights should be ignored in favor of the impending doom-of-the-month, but if we wait until all opther issues are solved before tackeling equality, then we might as well pack it up and go home as there will always be another crisis.

By: Jay

Jay — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 14:27:13 +0000

Colin, most of what the gay community wants (and has been promised by the Obama administration and the Democratic members of Congress) are supported by most of the population: passage of ENDA, repeal of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell,” and inclusion in hate crime legislation are all supported by healthy majorities. The only people who would “polarize” these issues are religious bigots. If we wait for 100% consensus, nothing will ever be done. Newsflash: we are part of the country!

By: Colin

Colin — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 14:18:17 +0000

I’m sorry, but really can the gay community hold any sway on the democratic party as long as its a given that the majority of gays will vote for democrats no matter what so called leader’s of the gay community say?

Furthermore, this shouldn’t be high on the agenda. This is a touchy subject and the country right now has to come first, even if that means sidelining reasonable protections for an unpopular population like ours. Anything that can polarize the new congress before they get vital changes made HAS TO BE avoided. “Demand” this stuff in a year or three, but for now expect country first, individual groups a far second.

By: TigerTzu

TigerTzu — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 13:56:28 +0000

Morgan Said: “thnks LOrion,
Just because some want to called “QUEER” ugh! gag! Yukh! doesn’t mean all want that “vomit value” label! I don’t!
I’ll stick to gay or gay male, thanks very much.”

I prefer the term “human” myself,

By: Robert, NYC

Robert, NYC — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 13:15:32 +0000

Why is it so many socalled “bi” males find kissing another guy so unappealing or unnecessary? Makes me wonder if they’re really self-loathing gay men. Several have even told me that falling in love and kissing a same-sex person is reserved for a male/female relationship, as if males are incapable of falling in love with another male, let alone tenderness and affection. Its beyond screwed up, as are they.

As for Obama…I voted for him, not because I really thought he was going to signify real change but because I didn’t want another four years of oppression. Having selected Warren for the invocation and the questionable choice of Lowery, it makes me wonder if this really is about reaching across the aisle. Why is that not one openly gay person has been chosen to be part of Obama’s cabinet or any other key government position? I’m going to think really hard before 2012 rolls around and reconsider my support for the Democratic party who have delivered on really NOTHING! From now on, if any democrat wants my vote, let him or her earn it, the old fashioned way, never take it for granted, enough!

By: James Withers

James Withers — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 12:23:11 +0000

Bud,

That information about Rev. Lowery was corrected. Thanks.

Sincerely,

James