Comments on: Judge: Gay men not protected by domestic violence law

By: Will I am

Will I am — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 17:00:25 +0000

The judge should get abused by A woman. Then see what happens.Hell do it to all the men there.Gather A rageing lesbian force, & have them beat up phobic men. See who gets the last laugh.

By: censoredagain

censoredagain — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 16:11:17 +0000

The law is not anti-gay per se; the law is actually anti-male. The law says that only a women can be a victim in domestic abuse so gay men and straight men alike are left unprotected by this misandrous law. I will admit that women are typically the victims of domestic violence but when a law is made it should protect everyone. The Spanish Parliament should be ashamed of themselves for writing and passing such genderistic law.

By: Michael

Michael — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 14:55:34 +0000

Good lord, the comments are killing me. We are so quick to cast stones about Spains inperfect legal system….hmmmm…lets see, they have some antiquated laws…well what country doesn’t? Spain allows gay adoption, codified marriage equality, equal taxation…in my opinion they are light years ahead of the “land of the free”. My guess is that because of this tragedy, change will come that modernizes “domestic violence laws”…but you can bet that Spain is wayyyy more progressive towards GLBT equality than those of us still in the USA.

By: drewski

drewski — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 12:23:25 +0000

@Neil–Spanish system is influenced by Napoleonic Code, which is much less likely to recognize judicial precedent (if it even does). It might be discrimination to block two men from marrying, but in the Spanish system that doesn’t force domestic violence law to change. In the US…well, Scalia was horrified that Lawrence v Texas was going to open the door to all the homos getting married, because that verdict set a precedent (stare decisis). US recognizes common law, so one well-placed court decision can change all kinds of things.

By: shawn

shawn — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 07:48:38 +0000

Hmmm…and just how “pervasive” is this phenomena I wonder? Could this just be negative propaganda being spewed against us?

By: John in CA

John in CA — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 05:59:38 +0000

Since straight men aren’t covered under the law either, this doesn’t have anything to do with sexual orientation.

It is plain, old-fashioned gender discrimination. From the same maschismo attitude that gave us the legal justification for male sexual abuse because “men can’t get raped.”

By: Neil

Neil — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 04:04:50 +0000

And we are all in a huff because it has been proven that ‘domestic partnership’ and ‘civil unions’ do not bring us marriage equality.

But we believe that when we can be legally married, we will have those rights.

This should prove that being allowed to marry doesn’t guarantee us equality in every situation. Is it a huge step? A necessary step? Yes! But from that point forward, it will still be a step by step fight. One which we will win. But one for which each step gives opportunity for our opposition to encroach.

Neil

By: Julia

Julia — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 02:34:51 +0000

This reminds me of a friend of mine who called the police because his wife came at him with a knife. He was 6’2″, 230 lbs. and she was 4’11″, 75 lbs. When the police arrived, they asked her what he did to her and he had to convince them that he was the one who called them. So men can’t be victims. Yeah, right!

By: Dan

Dan — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 02:20:23 +0000

This law refers to the victim as female, so it protects lesbians and heterosexual women, but not gay men and apparently not heterosexual men. The problem is sex discrimination, but in this case, it affected a gay man.

By: Zeke

Zeke — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 02:02:19 +0000

The law doesn’t just not cover gay men; it doesn’t cover MEN of ANY sexual orientation because, according to Spanish law (and according to misperceptions here in the US as well) ONLY females can be victims of domestic violence and females can’t be perpetrators of domestic violence against men either.

Europe prides itself on its gender “equality” but often their laws are ANYTHING but equal, especially when males are on the sh*t end of the stick.