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Jamaican woman asks not to be deported due to her sexuality


(United Kingdom) A Jamaican woman is asking the British immigration department to not deport her back to Jamaica because she is a lesbian. The woman has been convicted for dealing in illegal drugs by a British court.

In 2005, she was sent to prison after being convicted for supplying “class A” drugs. While at prison, the unnamed woman entered into lesbian relationships with fellow inmates.

According to the Jamaican Observer, British immigration officials do not believe the woman and say her claims are just “a ruse to avoid deportation.”

The United Kingdom and the United States have granted asylum to Jamaican gays in the past because of the extreme levels of homophobia in the island nation.

Read the full Jamaican Observer story here.


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  • Bob from Arlington, VA Said: July 16th, 2009 at 6:49 pm
    • “However, the majority of gays in Jamaica who have met violent deaths are usually victims of crimes of passion – killed by jealous lovers.”

      Huh? Where is the evidence for that? It seems very unlikely.

  • Kari Said: July 16th, 2009 at 7:14 pm
    • I don’t know if this woman is really a lesbian or not… But it doesn’t matter. Even if she is, I have no sympathy for her.

      The first rule of international travel is that you are a guest in someone else’s country–Be a good guest and follow the rules. Can’t do that? You don’t get to stay. End of story.

  • Thomas Said: July 16th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
    • The problem with Karl’s argument is it ignores history, including severe racism and ruthless imperialism. Jamaica was a part of Empire and was forever scarred as a result. As members of the Commonwealth, Jamaicans have certain rights to immigration to the U.K. Obviously the British would have preferred this woman work as a menial somewhere, rather than deal in drug trafficking, but she was hardly a “guest” enjoying the hospitality of the British. Trust me, I’ve experienced their hospitality myself, as an Irish citizen, and it wasn’t fair much less pleasant.

      Dark-skinned people always get the dirty end of the stick; I honestly believe it’s truer in the UK than the US but it’s here as well. I’d give this woman the benefit of the doubt because (1) she is Jamaican and (2) admitting to lesbianism there is a criminal offence. I doubt she made it up, but society is full of hypocrites who consume drugs in mass quantities, and then piously cant about how awful they are! Whatever your kink, but really…

      I believe if we actually knew her story, we would find an impoverished Jamaican lesbian trying to survive with few resources.

  • tjr Said: July 16th, 2009 at 8:51 pm
    • Thomas I find it hard to agree with your points. I’ve been to Britain and have never experienced anything other than respect and I’m black and also from the Caribbean. I have relatives over there who are black, have well paying jobs and live very comfortable lives.

      There are many law abiding citizens in Jamaica who are impoverished and don’t traffic drugs. To excuse her actions because of being poor just doesn’t cut it. It’s certainly true she could face violence if deported. Personally I hope she isn’t deported if in fact she is a lesbian. Everyone must abide by the laws of a country and face the consequences if they break the law.

  • Kari Said: July 16th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
    • Thomas:
      For starters, it’s Kari. With an I. I’d prefer that you spell my name right.

      Anyway, unless you are a citizen of a country, you are a guest whether you are able to immigrate, intend to immigrate or are just visiting.

      I won’t pass judgment on whether what she did was right or wrong; that isn’t my place. But if you can’t follow the laws of a country where you are legally a guest, they have every right to tell you to get out. People who are actually citizens of that country get more leeway to question whether the laws are right.

  • Jeff Said: July 16th, 2009 at 9:56 pm
    • This case is very different than the asylum cases. This women is not someone who fled Jamaica because she was a lesbian searching for safe haven, where she could live as a lesbian without fear. Rather, she came to the UK and committed serious crimes of drug dealing and drug possession. And now, a few days before being deported after years in jail claims that she is a lesbian. I think her claim to being a lesbian seems to be fishy, a last minute ploy not to be deported.

      Even if she is a lesbian, it’s not a matter of just granting her the right to stay. She is being deported because she is a convicted criminal. I have no sympathy for her. If one enters a foreign country and can’t refrain from committing serious crimes (drug dealing), then that person really can’t expect a lot of sympathy when they are deported back home. Had she behaved herself or perhaps committed a minor infraction (overstaying a visa or so), things could be different.

      That said, it is terrible that Jamaica has such a terrible record regarding even the most basic gay human rights. Too bad even their leaders are so uneducated and cannot learn from the other Commonwealth nations like Canada and the UK on gay rights.

      However, as a matter of law, I am unsure that the European Convention on Human Rights would allow a deportation in this instance. If she cannot be deported, however, as a convicted criminal, she would have to be housed in prison in Britain forever or until her home nation becomes “safe” for her to finally be deported.

  • JERRY@SARASOTA Said: July 16th, 2009 at 9:57 pm
    • I find it interesting that the United States offers asylum for gays because of extreme homophobia. Does the asylum process also work both ways? Will Canada, as an example, grant asylum to gays living in the United States; so we can escape the extreme homophobia and violence we endure in this country? Let’s hope so, cause a lot of us are ready to go.

  • kate Said: July 16th, 2009 at 10:00 pm
    • Thomas:

      ‘Obviously the British would have preferred this woman work as a menial somewhere’. As one of ‘the British’ i figured i should respond. I don’t give a damn where someone is from, I don’t give a damn the colour of someone’s skin, and I don’t give a damn if they work a menial job. I respect anyone who is a good citizen, and it seems with selling Class A drugs that she quite frankly wasn’t.

      As to an Irishman commenting on British hospitality, remind me, what sort of ‘hospitality’ would someone of the LGBT creed receive in Ireland?

      From what i know of the case I think it is an immigration ploy. Which certainly is likely going to affect a genuine LGBT appeal in the near future. I don’t feel sorry for this woman, I feel sorry for the next person who has their appeal rejected because of being seen as a copy-cat ploy.

  • PayThePrice Said: July 16th, 2009 at 11:16 pm
    • You commit the crime you lose your “privelages” sorry, don’t care if you are fellow LGBT. Should have thought about your citizenship status before getting involved in bad shit…

      Hard lessons learned. I think anyone who commits and convicted of crime here in the united states (purposely lower case) should be deported, we have over crowded, EXPENSIVE prisons as it is as I’m sure does the UK.

      O for Jerry, Yes Canada will work with US Gays seeking citizenship. I think there are a few websites that will help you start the process when you are ready!

  • Robert, NYC Said: July 17th, 2009 at 9:10 am
    • Thomas, NO British commonwealth member state has any immigration rights to the UK. They are independent nations, they gave up that right to migrate to the UK when they demanded their independence, just as no Brit has an automatic right to reside in the U.S. a former colony. This woman committed a serious crime, she like any other, native British citizen or not would be prosecuted in the same way except that a native of course cannot be deported anywhere. If I were to do the same in her country, I’d not only be deported but possibly harmed physically. One’s sexual orientation has nothing to do with it.

      I regret that you didn’t find British hospitality in general very pleasant but you seem to paint the entire country with the same brush. I’ve been treated with the upmost respect and have never had any negative experience every time I’ve been in the UK. I’m sure there are some people in your country who may not be very hospitable to foreigners, especially Brits, but I’m not going to write off the entire Irish people because of the actions of a few. There is prejudice in every society including the U.S. The fact that Jamaica is hostile to LGBT people doesn’t mean that every Jamaican behaves in the same manner, its current anti-gay stance notwithstanding. Your comments about the Brits would imply that you’re now an anti-Brit racist, odd considering that many Irish nationals live, work and vote in the UK for decades. I wonder what it is they and myself see that you don’t?

  • boB Said: July 17th, 2009 at 9:52 am
    • @ Jeff, Nice choice of words. I almost choked on my coffee.
      “I think her claim to being a lesbian seems to be fishy.”

  • Dave OS Said: July 17th, 2009 at 11:37 am
    • She is a drug dealer and should be deported…. end of story. She is lucky she wasn’t doing these crimes in Singapore, then she would be going for “a short drop and a sudden stop” on the gallows.

  • Morgan Said: July 17th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
    • Bob,
      We have no proof of if she is or isn’t, plus anything can happen in prison and does. Men who are weaker and prettier are often forced into a sexual role by stronger and tougher men whether they want it or not and the same could have happened to her with women stronger than her. And we don’t know her past history and we don’t know her motivations.

      But sympathy or not, she can’t go back to a country where she’d murdered very soon after arrival.

  • Lenworth Said: July 17th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
    • I keep seeing this, “If your in that country, you need to abide by the law,” bullcrap. Now I do realize that the “war on drugs” is a touchy subject, but lets remember.

      How many of us were breaking the law when sodomy laws were still in use even here in the U.S? Since I’m a left wing hippy, its my opinion that substance use should fall upon idividual choice, and that we should legalize them because everyone has a right to somewhat destroy there own body, but thats not even my point.

      My point is that since some Laws are ridiculous, and “sometimes” ludicrous to abide by, should we really poo poo and turn up our noses at this women? She won’t be treated like other inmates if she gets sent to prison, she’ll get treated unfairly because of who she choses to love, and we be put at even greater risk there.

  • Bobby Said: July 17th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
    • Kari I don’t think Thomas was purposely misspelling your name, even enlarging it and putting on glasses it’s hard to see that it’s an I and not a L.

 
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