Comments on: Illinois woman files discrimination complaint

By: Dave W

Dave W — Mon, 13 Jul 2009 13:04:19 +0000

I find the Morgan/Menstruator thing funny, but seriously the Menstruator is showing herself to be quite the ugly, obnoxious lesbian.

We men don’t like women (sexually anyway) but are we rude about it as she is? Sounds like a wee tiny little mind problem over there.

But this case has real merit. you do not give a bonus and a bad review at the same time. My lawyer would require I wait 6 months or more after that bonus before putting on a performance plan (probation as they say).

I would have been required to document specific shortcomings over a period of time before a plan could be applied.

Strong case…when you see an irratic pattern it usually points to human behaviour/opinions vs. facts.

By: Twisted Pride

Twisted Pride — Mon, 13 Jul 2009 01:51:07 +0000

Discrimination is a part of our lives and we must fight to abolish it. Unfortunately, this alleged discrimination is targeting a Homosexual and a Female. Our society has treated females in the work place like crap since the beginning of time and her being “gay” just adds to the hate factor. I personally do not identify with a female, a lesbian, a bi-sexual, or a transgender person. However, since we are few and we all need to be treated with respect, we must band together and fight this hate. I don’t care how many letters of the Alphabet I wear on my T-shirt (LGBT., F, Z, W., etc.,) nor do I care which minority group I belong to. I do care about one thing and that is this; all members of the human race shall be treated equally.

By: Katarina

Katarina — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 15:33:25 +0000

Having worked with “this woman” in the past, I can clearly state that just like some thin counterparts, she was always very well attired, spit and polish in every grooming aspect. She was overweight then and according to the photo, still is. Having also known her prior to that through school, she held every class office and was one of the highest regarded on campus for her brightness and optimism. I’m hopeful the complete person is who is seen throughout this ordeal.

By: Trace

Trace — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 12:05:06 +0000

Sarellec, you’re speaking to a bear that is about 250#, can leg press 700# and is in the gym 4 or 5 days a week.

Someone once told me that exercise is like brushing your teeth. It’s simply something that you should do every day.

By: Sarrellec

Sarrellec — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 02:05:51 +0000

How does appearance become more important than the ability to do the work?
So many of the comments here prove the point that looks mean more than anything else.
It was stated in the article that the supervisor had nothing but praise for the woman’s work.
She’s been doing this work for 18 years, so hiding behind the “but her health keeps her from doing the job”–code for “she’s fat”–doesn’t fly either.
She’s been doing the work for 18 years and extremely well, according to her own supervisor.
BEFORE that supervisor met her face to face.
So, obviously, she has a proper work ethic, is not a “lazy” employee (further demonstrating this automatic reaction to the so-called “overweight”–that fat people are inherently lazy), and her abilities and skills were only called into question after her first face-to-face meeting with Trace…um, I mean her supervisor.
BTW, I went every day to a gym for just over a year. I was after that V-shaped back and terrific abs.
I gained 40 pounds of muscle and lost…are ya ready? 2 whole inches off my waist!!
So much for 20 minutes a day three days a week and you can look like this steroid enhanced, genetically lucky bathing suit model!
I was strong enough. There is little need in anyone’s life to be able to leg press 700 pounds.
For a little bit more insight into this, here’s an example:

http://www.jennycraig.com/etools/yourstyle/?dfa=1

Your BMI is 32.5
> 30 Very Overweight
Your weight falls into the overweight category. Assuming you do not have a high level of muscle mass and carry a large skeletal frame your weight falls into the very overweight range. From a health standpoint, this increases your risk for heart disease, diabetes and hypertension. For example, your level of risk is similar to that of an individual with a serum cholesterol level of 240. The good news is that by losing as little as 10% of your current weight, you can reduce your risk for all these conditions. If you already have one of these conditions, you can bring it into better control.
A combination of healthy eating, an active lifestyle, and a positive mindset can help you reach a personally realistic goal.
To stay motivated to reach and maintain your goals, look for One-on-One support.

What a horribly obese and unhealthy individual this report must be for, hunh?
Wrongo:

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_average_height_and_weight_of_an_NFL_linebacker

What is the average height and weight of an NFL linebacker?

Answer
About 6′ 2 or 6′ 3 and 220-260 lbs.

Gee, that linebacker better get his ass into a gym, hunh?

By: Trace

Trace — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 22:52:39 +0000

Betty, you’ve never encountered a lazy employee that had been retained for years.

It’s happened at almost every employer that I’ve ever had. Hell, just at lunch on Friday a few of us were talking about how “so and so” retained their job for so long. I can pin point to you people that get to work and socialize with co-workers all day, or play on the internet, talk on their cell phones or take personal calls.

Honestly, anyone that works in a large corporation or business can pin point people that simply do not do the work that they were hired to do. So that no one thinks that I’m in a small organization, I work at a pretty well known business that has scored a 100% with the HRC. We have offices in 9 states. But as noted, it’s not isolated to where I work now. If this poor economy has done one thing, it has allowed many businesses to get rid of some of the people that simply were place fillers.

No if that is this woman has not been established. Right now, we’ve only heard one side of the story. I certainly hope that if these allegations are determined to be unfounded that 365gay will mention the same.

And By The Way ….. Menstruator, Love Ya Babe. Your Crazy Rants Always Make Me Smile. You are the stereotype of every man hater that I’ve ever met.

By: .......

....... — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 22:28:22 +0000

Menstruator… your comments fit your name. They’re menstrual.

By: Ken

Ken — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 22:13:28 +0000

Many years ago, an evil manager put me on a corrective action plan for a personality conflict with a person who didn’t know we had a personality conflict. It had nothing to do with LGBT issues. I took it as an opportunity. I did everything that was required, enthusiastically, and quickly, with the help of the other party, who saw me as a victim. He was unimpressed, but HR was. It’s better to have a record of solving problems than of never having had a problem.

The evil manager was fired, and it turned out that all his direct reports were treated as I was. Then I reaped the reward.

It’s not true in every case, but sometimes a “corrective action plan” can be an opportunity to advance.

By: sait

sait — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 22:06:00 +0000

…and, if she’s a telecommuter, does she work from home? I’m curious to know how she presented herself when she met her new manager…

By: sait

sait — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 22:00:45 +0000

“…Valenziano, a telecommuter with United Health, alleges her workplace trouble began last spring, after she was assigned to report to a new manager, whose praise for her performance ended after their first face-to-face meeting in Orlando, Fla.”

Gerry Fisher, based upon this statement, there is some merit to the notion that discriminatory practices were initiated toward this woman after seeing her in person. “Some merit” means that it is plausible–though not unquestionably so–that her new manager found her appearance distasteful or unprofessional. There are too many variables, including size-ism, to isolate homophobia. If she is morbidly obese and wears flannel shirts and cotton wife-beaters to a professional job, then she may want to invest in a new wardrobe and purchase a membership at the local gym. In this economy, the competition is fierce. There are at least 100 overqualified, overeducated and underpaid people standing in line to take your job. You can’t take for granted that your job is secure. If you want to stay competitive, you need to keep upgrading your skills and market yourself in a professional, competent and appealing way. …And, there are plenty of heavy-set women who are able to present with competence and grace.