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		<title>By: Delayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Delayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 17:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Gene, you are partially right.  We do need those one on one convsersations.  We do need the non fist shaking people to persuade the those who seem unshakeable in their beliefs.  

But we also need our signs and protests.  We need our fist shakers to draw the attention.  We need to show that we aren&#039;t going to take it or back down.  Both are very, very important to the cause.  

You have to keep in mind some people will never change their minds and being nice or being abrupt won&#039;t make a difference.  But we have to keep it up in an effort to make sure their hatred won&#039;t spread downwards and into the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Gene, you are partially right.  We do need those one on one convsersations.  We do need the non fist shaking people to persuade the those who seem unshakeable in their beliefs.  </p>
<p>But we also need our signs and protests.  We need our fist shakers to draw the attention.  We need to show that we aren&#8217;t going to take it or back down.  Both are very, very important to the cause.  </p>
<p>You have to keep in mind some people will never change their minds and being nice or being abrupt won&#8217;t make a difference.  But we have to keep it up in an effort to make sure their hatred won&#8217;t spread downwards and into the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Jt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now now, we can&#039;t be upset over Senator Fulcher&#039;s moronic ideas.  We all know it&#039;s a matter of a behavioral difference and not a genetic lacking.  We also know that we won&#039;t pass any special rights for him, because it would just bite us all in the butts further down the road.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now now, we can&#8217;t be upset over Senator Fulcher&#8217;s moronic ideas.  We all know it&#8217;s a matter of a behavioral difference and not a genetic lacking.  We also know that we won&#8217;t pass any special rights for him, because it would just bite us all in the butts further down the road.</p>
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		<title>By: Gene</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/news/idaho-lgbt-rights-bill-dies-in-committee/comment-page-2/#comment-44768</link>
		<dc:creator>Gene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 07:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I’ve never been to Idaho, but I’m sure it is a lovely state with some lovely people.  I’m also pretty sure that, even in the rural parts of Idaho, almost everyone knows 20 people on some level or another.  That means, statistically speaking, chances are that everyone in Idaho knows someone who is GLBT. The shame of it is that most of them don’t know they know one of us.

That is why it is so important for us to put a human face on the GLBT community. It’s a lot easier to deny rights to “one of them.” It takes a much stauncher bigot to deny rights to “one of us.”  

Even if Sen. Fulcher remains a staunch bigot, surely most of his constituents are not.

It’s easy to get lured into strident speech when one is angry and disappointed. But the cure for ignorance is knowledge, not hatred. A stranger is no longer strange once he or she becomes a familiar and, perhaps, friendly face.

Rallies, protests, petitions, effigy burnings all have their place to draw attention to a cause. But they draw attention, they don&#039;t change opinions. I’m convinced that many more opinions are swayed by lunchtime conversations and acknowledging ourselves to friends.

Maybe I’ve been huffing something, but I like it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’ve never been to Idaho, but I’m sure it is a lovely state with some lovely people.  I’m also pretty sure that, even in the rural parts of Idaho, almost everyone knows 20 people on some level or another.  That means, statistically speaking, chances are that everyone in Idaho knows someone who is GLBT. The shame of it is that most of them don’t know they know one of us.</p>
<p>That is why it is so important for us to put a human face on the GLBT community. It’s a lot easier to deny rights to “one of them.” It takes a much stauncher bigot to deny rights to “one of us.”  </p>
<p>Even if Sen. Fulcher remains a staunch bigot, surely most of his constituents are not.</p>
<p>It’s easy to get lured into strident speech when one is angry and disappointed. But the cure for ignorance is knowledge, not hatred. A stranger is no longer strange once he or she becomes a familiar and, perhaps, friendly face.</p>
<p>Rallies, protests, petitions, effigy burnings all have their place to draw attention to a cause. But they draw attention, they don&#8217;t change opinions. I’m convinced that many more opinions are swayed by lunchtime conversations and acknowledging ourselves to friends.</p>
<p>Maybe I’ve been huffing something, but I like it.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerry Fisher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gerry Fisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 22:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&quot;...and others, including myself, look at this as...&quot;

Is anyone else getting sick of our enemies being allowed to say things such as &quot;I feel&quot; and &quot;I look at it this way&quot;?

I don&#039;t *care* what you feel. I don&#039;t *care* how YOU look at it. Show me some research to back up your claims, darn it, or you&#039;re just using legislation as a giant baby blanket for ignorant and insecure people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&#8221;&#8230;and others, including myself, look at this as&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Is anyone else getting sick of our enemies being allowed to say things such as &#8220;I feel&#8221; and &#8220;I look at it this way&#8221;?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t *care* what you feel. I don&#8217;t *care* how YOU look at it. Show me some research to back up your claims, darn it, or you&#8217;re just using legislation as a giant baby blanket for ignorant and insecure people.</p>
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		<title>By: Brianboru</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brianboru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 22:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Russ Fulcher is my representative and we email back and forth fairly often. He is pretty closed minded and not one to listen to differing opinions. The last two emails I&#039;ve sent him he hasn&#039;t responded to as of yet.  Below is the first email I sent to him in regards to the bill before it went to vote.  The one below that is the one I sent him after the vote....

Hello Russ,

It&#039;s your favorite constituent again.  There is a print hearing on Friday concerning the Idaho Human Rights Act Amendment and unless I am mistaken, you are on this committee.  I would like to see you vote for a public hearing on this.  
The amendment would prohibit discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity.  It will allow people who are Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, and Transgender to have the basic security in their employment and other areas by making it illegal to fire someone simply because they are gay or to otherwise discriminate in areas of education, housing, and public accomodation.
This is NOT about &quot;Special&quot; rights. This is about equal rights and this should at the very least get a public hearing.

Here are two quotes from James Madison (the father of the constitution).
The Federalist No.51 February 6th 1788:

“Different interests necessarily exist in different classes of citizens.  If a majority be united by a common interest, the rights of the minority will be insecure.”

“In a society under the forms of which the stronger faction can readily unite and oppress the weaker, anarchy may as truly be said to reign, as in a state of nature where the weaker individual is not secured against the violence of the stronger.”

Come on Russ, at the very least, vote for a public hearing.
............................
You don&#039;t listen to a damn thing anyone has to say.  
Thanks for voting to kill the human rights bill.  Guess your not much on human rights.  How disappointing, &quot;I got mine. screw everyone else&quot; 
Typical &quot;Good Christian&quot; attitude.
............................
I doubt he&#039;s going to reply to me this time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russ Fulcher is my representative and we email back and forth fairly often. He is pretty closed minded and not one to listen to differing opinions. The last two emails I&#8217;ve sent him he hasn&#8217;t responded to as of yet.  Below is the first email I sent to him in regards to the bill before it went to vote.  The one below that is the one I sent him after the vote&#8230;.</p>
<p>Hello Russ,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s your favorite constituent again.  There is a print hearing on Friday concerning the Idaho Human Rights Act Amendment and unless I am mistaken, you are on this committee.  I would like to see you vote for a public hearing on this.<br />
The amendment would prohibit discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity.  It will allow people who are Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, and Transgender to have the basic security in their employment and other areas by making it illegal to fire someone simply because they are gay or to otherwise discriminate in areas of education, housing, and public accomodation.<br />
This is NOT about &#8220;Special&#8221; rights. This is about equal rights and this should at the very least get a public hearing.</p>
<p>Here are two quotes from James Madison (the father of the constitution).<br />
The Federalist No.51 February 6th 1788:</p>
<p>“Different interests necessarily exist in different classes of citizens.  If a majority be united by a common interest, the rights of the minority will be insecure.”</p>
<p>“In a society under the forms of which the stronger faction can readily unite and oppress the weaker, anarchy may as truly be said to reign, as in a state of nature where the weaker individual is not secured against the violence of the stronger.”</p>
<p>Come on Russ, at the very least, vote for a public hearing.<br />
&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.<br />
You don&#8217;t listen to a damn thing anyone has to say.<br />
Thanks for voting to kill the human rights bill.  Guess your not much on human rights.  How disappointing, &#8220;I got mine. screw everyone else&#8221;<br />
Typical &#8220;Good Christian&#8221; attitude.<br />
&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.<br />
I doubt he&#8217;s going to reply to me this time.</p>
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		<title>By: Delayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Delayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 21:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The best way to not get an Idaho potato is to be in Idaho, in Idaho you get Washington potatoes - which is a state that produces more potatoes than Idaho, only Idaho&#039;s are bigger ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best way to not get an Idaho potato is to be in Idaho, in Idaho you get Washington potatoes &#8211; which is a state that produces more potatoes than Idaho, only Idaho&#8217;s are bigger <img src='http://www.365gay.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Cata</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 21:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in ID (although not from ID) and I&#039;m just sickened when I see how backwards a**ed this state is. I&#039;m sorry everyone. My new home state is cruel, ignorant, and full of enough morons to stop equality in its tracks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in ID (although not from ID) and I&#8217;m just sickened when I see how backwards a**ed this state is. I&#8217;m sorry everyone. My new home state is cruel, ignorant, and full of enough morons to stop equality in its tracks.</p>
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		<title>By: JP</title>
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		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 21:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DOUCHEBAGS!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DOUCHEBAGS!</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick in Connecticut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick in Connecticut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 21:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Randy.  Why purchase another potato from Idaho?  After the prop 8 travesty in CA I stopped purchasing CA oranges, and when available I have been substituting clementines from Spain.  PEI potatoes are a perfect substitute for Idaho potatoes, and I&#039;ll be sure not to buy a single potato from a bigoted state.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Randy.  Why purchase another potato from Idaho?  After the prop 8 travesty in CA I stopped purchasing CA oranges, and when available I have been substituting clementines from Spain.  PEI potatoes are a perfect substitute for Idaho potatoes, and I&#8217;ll be sure not to buy a single potato from a bigoted state.</p>
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		<title>By: Eddie in LA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eddie in LA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 20:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah Chris - there go my dreams of owning a gay resort there - I had my &quot;Studs and Spuds&quot; promotion all planned out and everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah Chris &#8211; there go my dreams of owning a gay resort there &#8211; I had my &#8220;Studs and Spuds&#8221; promotion all planned out and everything.</p>
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