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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/news/homophobic-remarks-cost-buttars-chairmanship/comment-page-1/#comment-44648</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 12:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reed, 

I empathize with where you are at now.  I was at that jumping off point in 1995 when the church held a conference on how to grow out of homosexuality.  

I finally wrote the letter and walked the five blocks to the Post Office to mail it.  I remember not being sure the entire way if I&#039;d actually do it or not.  When I arrived at the blue mailbox outside of the PO, I again hesitated, telling myself that this was permanent.  I slowly dropped the letter in the box.  And I&#039;m telling you the truth, when I heard it hit the bottom, I knew instantly I&#039;d done the right thing.  I felt lighter and lighter each step home.  It was a freedom I can&#039;t describe.  I have never regretted it, and have never looked back.  With each year that passes, I am able to look at the church and it&#039;s teachings and practices with a clearer head.  This allows me to see it for what it truly is, which before, as a member, the clear view of that was very cloudy to me.  

So many people stay in the church feeling that if they do, they provide a voice within.  They really don&#039;t.  

The best way to make a statement - to make those who know you think... is to just walk away from it...  

Good luck Reed...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reed, </p>
<p>I empathize with where you are at now.  I was at that jumping off point in 1995 when the church held a conference on how to grow out of homosexuality.  </p>
<p>I finally wrote the letter and walked the five blocks to the Post Office to mail it.  I remember not being sure the entire way if I&#8217;d actually do it or not.  When I arrived at the blue mailbox outside of the PO, I again hesitated, telling myself that this was permanent.  I slowly dropped the letter in the box.  And I&#8217;m telling you the truth, when I heard it hit the bottom, I knew instantly I&#8217;d done the right thing.  I felt lighter and lighter each step home.  It was a freedom I can&#8217;t describe.  I have never regretted it, and have never looked back.  With each year that passes, I am able to look at the church and it&#8217;s teachings and practices with a clearer head.  This allows me to see it for what it truly is, which before, as a member, the clear view of that was very cloudy to me.  </p>
<p>So many people stay in the church feeling that if they do, they provide a voice within.  They really don&#8217;t.  </p>
<p>The best way to make a statement &#8211; to make those who know you think&#8230; is to just walk away from it&#8230;  </p>
<p>Good luck Reed&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Reed</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/news/homophobic-remarks-cost-buttars-chairmanship/comment-page-1/#comment-44607</link>
		<dc:creator>Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 01:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert, I agree with you. I am still a member, and have not asked the church to remove my membership. After what has happened, it is getting close. Only thing is, they want me to visit with them in their offices to explain why. NO THANK YOU!!!

I have a father who expressed those kind of opinions like Buttars. He has treated me no different than the rest. It is a shame. He fully defends Buttars. Whatever!

I asked my mom what would happen if someone said in Congress, &quot;Mormon are the greatest threat to America. What would happen?&quot; She didn&#039;t have a response.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert, I agree with you. I am still a member, and have not asked the church to remove my membership. After what has happened, it is getting close. Only thing is, they want me to visit with them in their offices to explain why. NO THANK YOU!!!</p>
<p>I have a father who expressed those kind of opinions like Buttars. He has treated me no different than the rest. It is a shame. He fully defends Buttars. Whatever!</p>
<p>I asked my mom what would happen if someone said in Congress, &#8220;Mormon are the greatest threat to America. What would happen?&#8221; She didn&#8217;t have a response.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/news/homophobic-remarks-cost-buttars-chairmanship/comment-page-1/#comment-44603</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 00:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a former Mormon from Utah, trust me... the majority of the population there supports what this nut said lock stock and barrel.  

Those that removed him stated they only did so to draw attention away from him.  Then he said, “We agree with many of the things he said. We may disagree with some of them, we may disagree with some of the ways he said it.”

Nothing he said was intelligent or true, so when they said they agree with &#039;most&#039; of it....  well, they&#039;re all idiots.  

This is what happens when you have a cult condition the minds of it&#039;s members, from birth, that whatever the church or the prophet says is the same as if God said it.  

These are not intelligent people because they have forfeited their responsibility to think for themselves.  They pride themselves on their obedience in &#039;following the brethren.&#039;  

Growing up, the justification I continuously heard for all of this is...  that we are blessed by being obedient, and if the prophet or the brethren instruct us wrong on something, the sin will be on their heads, while we will be blessed for being obedient.  

A sad group of people indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a former Mormon from Utah, trust me&#8230; the majority of the population there supports what this nut said lock stock and barrel.  </p>
<p>Those that removed him stated they only did so to draw attention away from him.  Then he said, “We agree with many of the things he said. We may disagree with some of them, we may disagree with some of the ways he said it.”</p>
<p>Nothing he said was intelligent or true, so when they said they agree with &#8216;most&#8217; of it&#8230;.  well, they&#8217;re all idiots.  </p>
<p>This is what happens when you have a cult condition the minds of it&#8217;s members, from birth, that whatever the church or the prophet says is the same as if God said it.  </p>
<p>These are not intelligent people because they have forfeited their responsibility to think for themselves.  They pride themselves on their obedience in &#8216;following the brethren.&#8217;  </p>
<p>Growing up, the justification I continuously heard for all of this is&#8230;  that we are blessed by being obedient, and if the prophet or the brethren instruct us wrong on something, the sin will be on their heads, while we will be blessed for being obedient.  </p>
<p>A sad group of people indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 22:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Utah Republican Chris Buttars says he will continue to defend traditional marriage.   Well, guess what, Mr. Buttars!  As we demand equal marriage rights, we are also defending traditional marriage.  We are defending MARRIAGE.  Opponents of marriage equality are merely satisfied with defending a DEFINITION OF MARRIAGE.  Unfortunately, I have seen precious little effort on the part of anti-equality advocates to actually help improve the success rates of any marriage.  

If they don&#039;t believe same-sex couples should marry then they don&#039;t have to marry someone of the same sex.  That doesn&#039;t give them the right to interfere with personal choices made by others.

Why don&#039;t they simply admit the truth?  Marriage is not their real issue.  It is just their first step to deny or roll-back any and all equality, safety and civil rights from LGBT people.  They will not be happy until society is returning to the day when we, as LGBT people, had no rights and no legal status.

Well, Mr. Buttars, we ain&#039;t going back!  Get used to it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Utah Republican Chris Buttars says he will continue to defend traditional marriage.   Well, guess what, Mr. Buttars!  As we demand equal marriage rights, we are also defending traditional marriage.  We are defending MARRIAGE.  Opponents of marriage equality are merely satisfied with defending a DEFINITION OF MARRIAGE.  Unfortunately, I have seen precious little effort on the part of anti-equality advocates to actually help improve the success rates of any marriage.  </p>
<p>If they don&#8217;t believe same-sex couples should marry then they don&#8217;t have to marry someone of the same sex.  That doesn&#8217;t give them the right to interfere with personal choices made by others.</p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t they simply admit the truth?  Marriage is not their real issue.  It is just their first step to deny or roll-back any and all equality, safety and civil rights from LGBT people.  They will not be happy until society is returning to the day when we, as LGBT people, had no rights and no legal status.</p>
<p>Well, Mr. Buttars, we ain&#8217;t going back!  Get used to it!</p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 22:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The most disturbing item in this news article is the statement that, despite his known views and &quot;off the wall&quot; remarks, this man won another election last fall.  What kind of constituents does he have?  A sad and tragic commentary on the attitudes that must prevail in Utah.  HOW can these people be this ignorant?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The most disturbing item in this news article is the statement that, despite his known views and &#8220;off the wall&#8221; remarks, this man won another election last fall.  What kind of constituents does he have?  A sad and tragic commentary on the attitudes that must prevail in Utah.  HOW can these people be this ignorant?</p>
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		<title>By: Bud Burgoon-Clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bud Burgoon-Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 21:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*

      There may be something far more sinister going on. Buttars is the (former?) executive director of what was then known as the “Utah Boys’ Ranch. Below is the fax I sent to the West Jordan UT police dept. over the weekend. They have yet to respond.

      Bud (Brother Raymond)

      ——————————————–

      The Rev’d Brother Raymond H. Burgoon-Clark
      Superior (retired)
      The Community of the Resurrection
      San Diego CA

      20 February 2009

      Police Department
      8040 S. Redwood Rd.
      West Jordan, Utah 84088
      (801) 256-2000
      (801) 562-2105 Fax

      Dear Friends in Christ,

      I was made aware of this website today:

      http://www.mormongulag.com/

      Has this been investigated, and if so, what was the finding?

      Sincerely,

      The Rev’d Brother Raymond H. Burgoon-Clark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*</p>
<p>      There may be something far more sinister going on. Buttars is the (former?) executive director of what was then known as the “Utah Boys’ Ranch. Below is the fax I sent to the West Jordan UT police dept. over the weekend. They have yet to respond.</p>
<p>      Bud (Brother Raymond)</p>
<p>      ——————————————–</p>
<p>      The Rev’d Brother Raymond H. Burgoon-Clark<br />
      Superior (retired)<br />
      The Community of the Resurrection<br />
      San Diego CA</p>
<p>      20 February 2009</p>
<p>      Police Department<br />
      8040 S. Redwood Rd.<br />
      West Jordan, Utah 84088<br />
      (801) 256-2000<br />
      (801) 562-2105 Fax</p>
<p>      Dear Friends in Christ,</p>
<p>      I was made aware of this website today:</p>
<p>      <a href="http://www.mormongulag.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.mormongulag.com/</a></p>
<p>      Has this been investigated, and if so, what was the finding?</p>
<p>      Sincerely,</p>
<p>      The Rev’d Brother Raymond H. Burgoon-Clark</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 19:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll wager that if he had compared gays to a different group(not used the Muslim comparison) he&#039;d still be chairman. The Mormons didn&#039;t remove him because of the gay aspect - they want good relationships with moderate Moslims.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll wager that if he had compared gays to a different group(not used the Muslim comparison) he&#8217;d still be chairman. The Mormons didn&#8217;t remove him because of the gay aspect &#8211; they want good relationships with moderate Moslims.</p>
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		<title>By: Morgan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 18:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I take an issue with what Waddoups said that Buttars&#039; words reflect what Many of his constituents think. That does not reflect what his gay constituents think or what his fair-minded straight constituents who support the rights of gay Utahans think. And I read quite recently articles on 365gay.com that say that a fair number of Utah people believe in gay rights regardless of the
constitutional amendment, the Mormons of Salt Lake City, or the Mormoms of the rest of Utah etc or Buttars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I take an issue with what Waddoups said that Buttars&#8217; words reflect what Many of his constituents think. That does not reflect what his gay constituents think or what his fair-minded straight constituents who support the rights of gay Utahans think. And I read quite recently articles on 365gay.com that say that a fair number of Utah people believe in gay rights regardless of the<br />
constitutional amendment, the Mormons of Salt Lake City, or the Mormoms of the rest of Utah etc or Buttars.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick from CT</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick from CT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 17:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who is this guy kidding calling gays and lesbians a &quot;special interest group that has been allowed to act with impunity&quot;?  The tragic results of the election, with Prop. 8 passing in CA, shows that we are not immune to the whims of the majority in this country.  I am happy to hear that such hateful speech cost him his job!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who is this guy kidding calling gays and lesbians a &#8220;special interest group that has been allowed to act with impunity&#8221;?  The tragic results of the election, with Prop. 8 passing in CA, shows that we are not immune to the whims of the majority in this country.  I am happy to hear that such hateful speech cost him his job!</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 17:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;special interest&#039;??
The only &#039;special&#039; insterest we have is to live our lives openly and freely with the SAME benefits and rights that he as a person of the heteropersuasion has. I see nothing &#039;special&#039; about that; only fair and deserved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;special interest&#8217;??<br />
The only &#8216;special&#8217; insterest we have is to live our lives openly and freely with the SAME benefits and rights that he as a person of the heteropersuasion has. I see nothing &#8216;special&#8217; about that; only fair and deserved.</p>
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