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	<title>Comments on: Hawaii civil union bill moves to Senate</title>
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		<title>By: Ward Stewart/George Vye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ward Stewart/George Vye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 19:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aloha Friends,

We were distressed to read:

&quot;Hawaii, the state that adopted the nation’s first “defense of marriage” constitutional amendment a decade ago&quot;

This is true enough but omits that this sad effect was the result of Hawaii being the FIRST to open the question in Baehr v Lewin.  The early bird gets it in the neck.

Ward and George
54 years together,
And yet
Strangers before the law</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aloha Friends,</p>
<p>We were distressed to read:</p>
<p>&#8220;Hawaii, the state that adopted the nation’s first “defense of marriage” constitutional amendment a decade ago&#8221;</p>
<p>This is true enough but omits that this sad effect was the result of Hawaii being the FIRST to open the question in Baehr v Lewin.  The early bird gets it in the neck.</p>
<p>Ward and George<br />
54 years together,<br />
And yet<br />
Strangers before the law</p>
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		<title>By: Rod</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 00:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Opponents fear the erosion of an island culture that values conventional family ties&quot; - &quot;In Hawaii, people still believe in traditional marriage and the sanctity of marriage&quot; - evidently, these people only know what the Christian missionaries preached while they were raping the Hawaiian islands and stealing the land from the native Hawaiians.  If they bothed to study ancient Hawaiian culture, they would have a better idea of what was accepted to the Hawaiians. There were many elements to the culture, and &quot;conventional family&quot; was more accepting and beautiful than what is being preached today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Opponents fear the erosion of an island culture that values conventional family ties&#8221; &#8211; &#8220;In Hawaii, people still believe in traditional marriage and the sanctity of marriage&#8221; &#8211; evidently, these people only know what the Christian missionaries preached while they were raping the Hawaiian islands and stealing the land from the native Hawaiians.  If they bothed to study ancient Hawaiian culture, they would have a better idea of what was accepted to the Hawaiians. There were many elements to the culture, and &#8220;conventional family&#8221; was more accepting and beautiful than what is being preached today.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick in Connecticut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick in Connecticut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 21:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Our wedding industry would have a huge potential increase in business purely because there are people who would rather come to the islands rather than go to the East Coast to have a civil union performed...Some people say it’s just marriage by another name, and that may be true. It’s a perfect compromise.&quot;

Please.  I&#039;d rather get married in MA or CT than get a civil union in HI.  Civil Unions just don&#039;t work the way they are supposed to.  That said, I think that this is a good step towards full marriage equality in HI.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Our wedding industry would have a huge potential increase in business purely because there are people who would rather come to the islands rather than go to the East Coast to have a civil union performed&#8230;Some people say it’s just marriage by another name, and that may be true. It’s a perfect compromise.&#8221;</p>
<p>Please.  I&#8217;d rather get married in MA or CT than get a civil union in HI.  Civil Unions just don&#8217;t work the way they are supposed to.  That said, I think that this is a good step towards full marriage equality in HI.</p>
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		<title>By: Eugene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eugene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 20:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hawaii amended its constitution to ensure that marriage would be &quot;protected&quot;. Seeing as the state accomplished this (in the eyes of the bigots), what are they trying to &quot;protect&quot; now by opposing civil unions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hawaii amended its constitution to ensure that marriage would be &#8220;protected&#8221;. Seeing as the state accomplished this (in the eyes of the bigots), what are they trying to &#8220;protect&#8221; now by opposing civil unions?</p>
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		<title>By: TJNV</title>
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		<dc:creator>TJNV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 16:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lets hope this passes the Senate!!
And CA still does have 18,000 married same sex couples!  I to  am for &quot;Traditonal Marriage&quot; for Heteros !
It makes my head hurt how these people say we want to destroy marriage just because we want the same rights.  All of my strait married friends feel no less married because my now legal spouse and I went to the court house and got a paper giving us the same rights, after being together since 1994. 

Tom in Long Beach</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lets hope this passes the Senate!!<br />
And CA still does have 18,000 married same sex couples!  I to  am for &#8220;Traditonal Marriage&#8221; for Heteros !<br />
It makes my head hurt how these people say we want to destroy marriage just because we want the same rights.  All of my strait married friends feel no less married because my now legal spouse and I went to the court house and got a paper giving us the same rights, after being together since 1994. </p>
<p>Tom in Long Beach</p>
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		<title>By: Morgan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 15:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What happened to domestic partnerships for same-sex Washington state couples that WA gov Gregoire signed into law? They haven&#039;t disappeared just because another journalistic outfit failed to do its homework completely enough before putting its article out for public comsumption. And Washington State hasn&#039;t sufficiently shifted its geographical west coast location enough as of late to stop being a western state. So Hawaii isn&#039;t the only western state trying to do things to recognize its same-sex couples. CA used to have marriage equality and may one day regain it. If the CA Supreme Court rules in the favor of same-sex couples.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What happened to domestic partnerships for same-sex Washington state couples that WA gov Gregoire signed into law? They haven&#8217;t disappeared just because another journalistic outfit failed to do its homework completely enough before putting its article out for public comsumption. And Washington State hasn&#8217;t sufficiently shifted its geographical west coast location enough as of late to stop being a western state. So Hawaii isn&#8217;t the only western state trying to do things to recognize its same-sex couples. CA used to have marriage equality and may one day regain it. If the CA Supreme Court rules in the favor of same-sex couples.</p>
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		<title>By: sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 14:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When referring to marriage for gay people, I would refrain from saying gay marriage, it&#039;s not a gay marriage, it&#039;s equality for gay people to have the same marriage rights as all others, (marriage equality).  You don&#039;t read news articles that say straight marriage, black marriage or opposite sex marriage.  This is a equal rights issue and should be stated as such.  MARRIAGE EQUALITY FOR GAY PEOPLE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When referring to marriage for gay people, I would refrain from saying gay marriage, it&#8217;s not a gay marriage, it&#8217;s equality for gay people to have the same marriage rights as all others, (marriage equality).  You don&#8217;t read news articles that say straight marriage, black marriage or opposite sex marriage.  This is a equal rights issue and should be stated as such.  MARRIAGE EQUALITY FOR GAY PEOPLE.</p>
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