Comments on: Group to out signers of anti-gay petitions

By: Jen Cardenas

Jen Cardenas — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 01:21:37 +0000

AS IF!!! This is disgusting, vile, and SO like you gays! Going too far and breaking all the rules, then trying to say the rules were there after you and your kind. This is an outrage! I hope they find the violators of those poor people’s privacy and put them behind bars! And seriously, you gays are calling this a war? Wow…just wow. How childish and pathetic. You all play dirty while all the heterosexuals do is follow the rules. Sounds sooooo fair to me, NOT! This is a grotesque injustice against good people!

By: Frank

Frank — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 17:25:07 +0000

drewski,
your argument is completely and utterly incoherent. I am discussing the involvement of American Christians in anti-gay witch hunts. That has propaganda value in our arguments against them, but only if we forgo the tactics of the enemy. This technique of posting names of even the smallest contributor may make us feel good about getting even, but it doesn’t win us sympathy.

This is about winning not about getting even. Let them make the mistakes- not us.

By: drewski

drewski — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 07:10:36 +0000

@Frank–And those in Africa who publish lists of gays (so those people can be persecuted) are a few among a whole constellation of people who refuse to engage in true democracy, and see violence as an acceptable adjunct to their version of democracy. That’s why something like the population of Indiana has been killed in Zaire/Congo’s onoging civil war, and the rest of the world barely notices. So I disagree with your point. In the US, it’s generally a crime to murder your political opponents; in much of Africa, it’s standard operating procedure, and no secret to it. We can step in on big stuff, but considering that the US doesn’t have justification to intervene in Zimbabwe, and no rich country will intervene in Sudan (not least because of Chinese interests there), gays being targeted is sadly a lesser offense on the African stage. (In the current environment, how many people on this site think that a repeat of the Rwandan genocide would bring immediate intervention from the US, NATO or the EU? I don’t have my hand up either.) It’s not to say there’s no wrong in gays being targeted anywhere in Africa; it is to say that we need to bring an end to the mess in our own country.

By: Hugh (Bart) Vincelette

Hugh (Bart) Vincelette — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 06:05:49 +0000

Those in opposition to domestic benefits or same-sex marriage are ; in reality; opposed to the very existence of homosexual persons , and have consistently referred to social and political actions as ” culture wars”, along with the ‘war’ oriented terminology used by the religious right.Publishing the names in opposition is a superb idea. Not doing so would be sticking ones head in the sand.

By: Ed Gould

Ed Gould — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 05:12:37 +0000

Good for Them!

Excellent idea (I wish I had thought of it). Hopefully this will show up the two faced people in California.

I would not be surprised to see some big names show up (like the governor Arnold).

I have argued in the past that the people who fought for Gay Marriage to go after the money (follow the money) and to prove it came from out of state. I am guessing that a lot of the money came from the Mormons. While they have a right to their beliefs it is entirely different to give money to a political champaign.

By: Bruce Kogan

Bruce Kogan — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 04:35:23 +0000

You know the most obvious benefit here is
that a careful checking of the signatories might reveal some closet cases to be outted.

By: Terry

Terry — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 00:50:21 +0000

Great idea! It’s about time they show their faces and stop hiding behide the cathedral doors!

By: John Kozlik

John Kozlik — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 20:18:56 +0000

I think it’s interesting the backlash that is going on. Check out Seattletimes.org to see the 500+ posts already. People are very angry about this even though petitions are already public knowledge. I wonder if they know that all Domestic Partnerships are online in a database. I can’t find a database of marriages.

http://www.secstate.wa.gov/corps/domesticpartnerships/

By: Frank

Frank — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 20:10:36 +0000

Yes, the anti-gays never play fair, but remember what they’re doing in Africa. They’re publicly posting lists of gay people so that the locals can beat or kill them. While the danger to those who sign anti-gay petitions is not as great, I am afraid that we can’t complain about the witch hunts they have in Africa, if we don’t stop the admittedly lesser intimidation here.

By: drewski

drewski — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 19:35:12 +0000

Good idea. You want to be a bigot, you don’t get the cover of privacy.