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		<title>By: Truth B. Told</title>
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		<dc:creator>Truth B. Told</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 05:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CORRECTION: should read... 

Obama&#039;s Department of (in)&quot;Justice recently filed, with a federal Court, a Motion to Dismiss a citizen&#039;s suit against DOMA on grounds of invidious discrimination...&quot;</description>
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<p>Obama&#8217;s Department of (in)&#8221;Justice recently filed, with a federal Court, a Motion to Dismiss a citizen&#8217;s suit against DOMA on grounds of invidious discrimination&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Truth B. Told</title>
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		<dc:creator>Truth B. Told</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 05:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What &quot;dignity&quot; do you have when Obama&#039;s Department of (in)Justice recently filed, with the US Supreme Court, a Motion to Dismiss a citizen&#039;s suit against DOMA on grounds of invidious discrimination. What &quot;dignity&quot; do you have when the very same DOJ compared married American same-sex couples to perpetrators of incest and pedophilia.  If you think that this is just an acceptable part of the process, then you have NO &quot;dignity&quot; Yhitzak.

You say that you are a trans-male, Yhitzak...well, then show some balls and quit being such a apologist wimp for the backstabbing Democrats -- especially Obama.

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….Yhitzak wrote: &quot;If the president (be it Obama or Bush or anyone else) uses the power of the office to override any or both of the other two branches of government, he/she is entering into the realm of tyranny. I DO NOT WANT TO GAIN MY RIGHTS AT THE EXPENSE OF MY NATIONAL DIGNITY. I do not want to gain equality at the expense of my humanity. And I do NOT want to gain rights at the expense of the democratic process or the structure of our federal government.&quot;….

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Sorry sweetie, that dog just wont hunt. Obama can issue a “Stop Loss” executive order right now to end the dismissal of brave, patriotic men and women in our bigoted Armed Forces. He doesn&#039;t need the &quot;approval&quot; of Congress to do that.

Obama also did not have to instruct the Department of Justice to defend a law that Obama himself said on the campaign trail was unconstitutional (DOMA). 

Read the goddamn briefs for Christ’s sakes, Yhitzak. His lawyers stated very clearly that &quot;homosexuality&quot; cannot be equated with the past struggle for racial equality. His DOJ states that homosexuals are NOT discriminated against...individual states don&#039;t have to recognized same-sex unions anymore than they have to recognized underage marriages or incestuous marriages...government benefits to same-sex “legally married” couples would be “unfair” to heterosexual taxpayers who might object to homosexuality...the Obama DOJ&#039;s hateful, venomous list of objections to our equality goes on and on and on, ad nauseum.  

So, do yourself a favor by performing a Google search and then READ IT! Every f*cking poisonous word that his Department of (in)Justice wrote to denigrate and dismiss the equal rights of tens of millions of GLBT Americans as if we are just a pesky bunch of mental defectives making “imaginary” claims of discrimination based on “imaginary” claims of constitutional rights for perverts.  

In reality is it Obama, along with his so-called “Justice” Department, and most of the members of Congress who, in reality, are the perverts. They pervert the concept of human decency and they pervert the law when they deny us our birthright of equality as American citizens. There are no…let me repeat…there are NO exclusions in our Bill of Rights nor in the US Constitution for Americans who also happen to be GLBT.


So, Yhitzak, surely you must be fully aware of how this “man” continues to subvert our rights. How can you not be outraged at this duplicitous political whore, Barack O&#039;Bush? But, if you continue to excuse him and to enable him, like some masochistic battered spouse, then you are beyond all hope; beyond all self-respect -- and I pity you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What &#8220;dignity&#8221; do you have when Obama&#8217;s Department of (in)Justice recently filed, with the US Supreme Court, a Motion to Dismiss a citizen&#8217;s suit against DOMA on grounds of invidious discrimination. What &#8220;dignity&#8221; do you have when the very same DOJ compared married American same-sex couples to perpetrators of incest and pedophilia.  If you think that this is just an acceptable part of the process, then you have NO &#8220;dignity&#8221; Yhitzak.</p>
<p>You say that you are a trans-male, Yhitzak&#8230;well, then show some balls and quit being such a apologist wimp for the backstabbing Democrats &#8212; especially Obama.</p>
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<p>….Yhitzak wrote: &#8220;If the president (be it Obama or Bush or anyone else) uses the power of the office to override any or both of the other two branches of government, he/she is entering into the realm of tyranny. I DO NOT WANT TO GAIN MY RIGHTS AT THE EXPENSE OF MY NATIONAL DIGNITY. I do not want to gain equality at the expense of my humanity. And I do NOT want to gain rights at the expense of the democratic process or the structure of our federal government.&#8221;….</p>
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<p>Sorry sweetie, that dog just wont hunt. Obama can issue a “Stop Loss” executive order right now to end the dismissal of brave, patriotic men and women in our bigoted Armed Forces. He doesn&#8217;t need the &#8220;approval&#8221; of Congress to do that.</p>
<p>Obama also did not have to instruct the Department of Justice to defend a law that Obama himself said on the campaign trail was unconstitutional (DOMA). </p>
<p>Read the goddamn briefs for Christ’s sakes, Yhitzak. His lawyers stated very clearly that &#8220;homosexuality&#8221; cannot be equated with the past struggle for racial equality. His DOJ states that homosexuals are NOT discriminated against&#8230;individual states don&#8217;t have to recognized same-sex unions anymore than they have to recognized underage marriages or incestuous marriages&#8230;government benefits to same-sex “legally married” couples would be “unfair” to heterosexual taxpayers who might object to homosexuality&#8230;the Obama DOJ&#8217;s hateful, venomous list of objections to our equality goes on and on and on, ad nauseum.  </p>
<p>So, do yourself a favor by performing a Google search and then READ IT! Every f*cking poisonous word that his Department of (in)Justice wrote to denigrate and dismiss the equal rights of tens of millions of GLBT Americans as if we are just a pesky bunch of mental defectives making “imaginary” claims of discrimination based on “imaginary” claims of constitutional rights for perverts.  </p>
<p>In reality is it Obama, along with his so-called “Justice” Department, and most of the members of Congress who, in reality, are the perverts. They pervert the concept of human decency and they pervert the law when they deny us our birthright of equality as American citizens. There are no…let me repeat…there are NO exclusions in our Bill of Rights nor in the US Constitution for Americans who also happen to be GLBT.</p>
<p>So, Yhitzak, surely you must be fully aware of how this “man” continues to subvert our rights. How can you not be outraged at this duplicitous political whore, Barack O&#8217;Bush? But, if you continue to excuse him and to enable him, like some masochistic battered spouse, then you are beyond all hope; beyond all self-respect &#8212; and I pity you.</p>
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		<title>By: FRANK mARONE</title>
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		<dc:creator>FRANK mARONE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A BIGOT IS A BIGOT IS A BIGOT!!! I AM TIRED OF ALL THE BS. EITHER STOP THE BIGOTRY OR STOP THE FAKE SUPPORT OF GAYS! I CANNOT TELL YOU HOW HURT WE ARE BECAUSE OF THE BIGOTS USING THEIR SOCALLED RELIGIOUS VIEWS BEING IMPOSED ON THE REST OF US.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A BIGOT IS A BIGOT IS A BIGOT!!! I AM TIRED OF ALL THE BS. EITHER STOP THE BIGOTRY OR STOP THE FAKE SUPPORT OF GAYS! I CANNOT TELL YOU HOW HURT WE ARE BECAUSE OF THE BIGOTS USING THEIR SOCALLED RELIGIOUS VIEWS BEING IMPOSED ON THE REST OF US.</p>
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		<title>By: bumbelbeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>bumbelbeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The gays are in for a big surprise from their Idol,Obama. He said and did what was necessary to capture the Oval office. The Islam faith recognizes homosexuality to be a practice that calls for death to those who practice it. I think Obama&#039;s Muslim roots will become more apparent in the coming days. He dare not offend Islam or those who are its followers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The gays are in for a big surprise from their Idol,Obama. He said and did what was necessary to capture the Oval office. The Islam faith recognizes homosexuality to be a practice that calls for death to those who practice it. I think Obama&#8217;s Muslim roots will become more apparent in the coming days. He dare not offend Islam or those who are its followers.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know why anyone is surprised.  You can&#039;t believe a damn thing coming out of a politician&#039;s mouth.  For all who voted for him, I can only say &#039;I told you so&#039;.  I do recall Biden&#039;s speech during his debate with Palin, and he did mention that he and Obama both believed that marriage is between a woman and man, but would support &#039;civil unions&#039; or some variation of it.  Just because they carry the &#039;D&#039; behind their name, don&#039;t automatically assume they have our interests at heart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know why anyone is surprised.  You can&#8217;t believe a damn thing coming out of a politician&#8217;s mouth.  For all who voted for him, I can only say &#8216;I told you so&#8217;.  I do recall Biden&#8217;s speech during his debate with Palin, and he did mention that he and Obama both believed that marriage is between a woman and man, but would support &#8216;civil unions&#8217; or some variation of it.  Just because they carry the &#8216;D&#8217; behind their name, don&#8217;t automatically assume they have our interests at heart.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Screw Obama.  He just parrots what he needs to say just to get elected.  I am so ashamed of my support for him.  I have to face all those people I told to vote for him.  I feel like a total fool, and I am.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Screw Obama.  He just parrots what he needs to say just to get elected.  I am so ashamed of my support for him.  I have to face all those people I told to vote for him.  I feel like a total fool, and I am.</p>
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		<title>By: warren</title>
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		<dc:creator>warren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 13:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lets get real this brief is a joke and will further exactly what prop8 did galvanize our efforts for equality and recognition; furthering our resolve for justice!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lets get real this brief is a joke and will further exactly what prop8 did galvanize our efforts for equality and recognition; furthering our resolve for justice!</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 13:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome to the back of the bus. OBummer does not see Gay rights as a civil rights issue. He got his, to hell with anyone else. He wants us to vote for him, he wants us to contribute to his election fund but he wants us to stay separate and unequal. Now when he says Gay I wonder if he means Gays are America&#039;s N-Word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to the back of the bus. OBummer does not see Gay rights as a civil rights issue. He got his, to hell with anyone else. He wants us to vote for him, he wants us to contribute to his election fund but he wants us to stay separate and unequal. Now when he says Gay I wonder if he means Gays are America&#8217;s N-Word.</p>
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		<title>By: Warren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Warren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 13:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama is very quickly losing his base. He has reniged on position after position and for what--mianly to get a few Republican votes. Doesn&#039;t thie guy guy realize he won to do things Republican did not want to do. His 2012 chances are quickly evaporating. His word seems to mean nothing. For example. he has stated that the U.S. does not torture, but we still rendition. That is clarly dishonest and a lie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama is very quickly losing his base. He has reniged on position after position and for what&#8211;mianly to get a few Republican votes. Doesn&#8217;t thie guy guy realize he won to do things Republican did not want to do. His 2012 chances are quickly evaporating. His word seems to mean nothing. For example. he has stated that the U.S. does not torture, but we still rendition. That is clarly dishonest and a lie.</p>
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		<title>By: Yhitzak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yhitzak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 12:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems that I&#039;m in a minority of people who remember Obama&#039;s predecessor, George W. Bush. Do any of you remember how Bush would make sweeping declarations and put the weight of his office on certain issues to push them through, and how this infuriated people who believe in the democratic process? While it might be true that, &quot;Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people,&quot; (Oscar Wilde), this country still functions in a democratic process, which means that rights and responsibilities are allocated through consensus. If the president (be it Obama or Bush or anyone else) uses the power of the office to override any or both of the other two branches of government, he/she is entering into the realm of tyranny. I DO NOT WANT TO GAIN MY RIGHTS AT THE EXPENSE OF MY NATIONAL DIGNITY. I do not want to gain equality at the expense of my humanity. And I do NOT want to gain rights at the expense of the democratic process or the structure of our federal government.

Uncle Tom... for pete&#039;s sake! I&#039;m a gay transman and I can promise you that I want to be able to use public bathrooms without having security called on me! I want to be protected from being fired from my job for my appearance or the way other people might perceive me! I don&#039;t want to be discriminated against! But I also don&#039;t want to inadvertantly demonize myself or my brethren in the process of demanding those rights! I really don&#039;t want to make myself -or those other people I&#039;m representing- look like we&#039;re demanding something special when we&#039;re demanding something equal!

Look, no one on the street or in the White House is going to want to listen to anyone who&#039;s saying, &quot;I want this and I want it now and screw you if you don&#039;t agree with me!&quot; This might be true, but there are better ways of expressing that notion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems that I&#8217;m in a minority of people who remember Obama&#8217;s predecessor, George W. Bush. Do any of you remember how Bush would make sweeping declarations and put the weight of his office on certain issues to push them through, and how this infuriated people who believe in the democratic process? While it might be true that, &#8220;Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people,&#8221; (Oscar Wilde), this country still functions in a democratic process, which means that rights and responsibilities are allocated through consensus. If the president (be it Obama or Bush or anyone else) uses the power of the office to override any or both of the other two branches of government, he/she is entering into the realm of tyranny. I DO NOT WANT TO GAIN MY RIGHTS AT THE EXPENSE OF MY NATIONAL DIGNITY. I do not want to gain equality at the expense of my humanity. And I do NOT want to gain rights at the expense of the democratic process or the structure of our federal government.</p>
<p>Uncle Tom&#8230; for pete&#8217;s sake! I&#8217;m a gay transman and I can promise you that I want to be able to use public bathrooms without having security called on me! I want to be protected from being fired from my job for my appearance or the way other people might perceive me! I don&#8217;t want to be discriminated against! But I also don&#8217;t want to inadvertantly demonize myself or my brethren in the process of demanding those rights! I really don&#8217;t want to make myself -or those other people I&#8217;m representing- look like we&#8217;re demanding something special when we&#8217;re demanding something equal!</p>
<p>Look, no one on the street or in the White House is going to want to listen to anyone who&#8217;s saying, &#8220;I want this and I want it now and screw you if you don&#8217;t agree with me!&#8221; This might be true, but there are better ways of expressing that notion.</p>
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