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		<title>By: Marla Stevens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marla Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 01:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Civil marriages are civil unions.  We don&#039;t need another type just because some or even most people aren&#039;t comfy sharing the law with their gay neighbors -- mostly for religious traditionalistic reasons that have no bearing on law in a nontheocratic government.  A tradition of injustice is an argument for changing it faster, not clinging to it prolonging people&#039;s pain and suffering -- and the suffering is real, unlike the unproven, theoretical dire threats of consequences the ban proponents always make and which never prove to be real. Real seniors lose their homes, real children lose their other parent when something happens to their birth parent, real seriously ill people are denied the comfort of their most loved one as they lay dying, and real couples are made strangers to the benefits of literally tens of thousands of laws.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Civil marriages are civil unions.  We don&#8217;t need another type just because some or even most people aren&#8217;t comfy sharing the law with their gay neighbors &#8212; mostly for religious traditionalistic reasons that have no bearing on law in a nontheocratic government.  A tradition of injustice is an argument for changing it faster, not clinging to it prolonging people&#8217;s pain and suffering &#8212; and the suffering is real, unlike the unproven, theoretical dire threats of consequences the ban proponents always make and which never prove to be real. Real seniors lose their homes, real children lose their other parent when something happens to their birth parent, real seriously ill people are denied the comfort of their most loved one as they lay dying, and real couples are made strangers to the benefits of literally tens of thousands of laws.</p>
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		<title>By: TNV</title>
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		<dc:creator>TNV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kim:   O.K. Trollzilla, I think narrow minded people are irresponsible and disgusting.   How about you move to a  country where traditional marriage is really practiced.  Just as it has been for thousands of years.  Women have no rights and, are sold by their fathers to the man that offers the most livestock. 

Tom in Long Beach</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kim:   O.K. Trollzilla, I think narrow minded people are irresponsible and disgusting.   How about you move to a  country where traditional marriage is really practiced.  Just as it has been for thousands of years.  Women have no rights and, are sold by their fathers to the man that offers the most livestock. </p>
<p>Tom in Long Beach</p>
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		<title>By: brett</title>
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		<dc:creator>brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kim, 
Why are you even looking at this site? Take your hateful venom-spewing somewhere else. France, maybe?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kim,<br />
Why are you even looking at this site? Take your hateful venom-spewing somewhere else. France, maybe?</p>
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		<title>By: Brian S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 04:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GayVotesCount wrote: 

---When will America wake up and remember the basic concepts that this country was founded on? As Justice Robert H. Jackson wrote, “the very purpose of the Bill of Rights was to withdraw certain subjects from the vicissitudes of political controversy, to place them beyond the reach of majorities … One’s right to life, liberty, and property, to free speech, a free press, freedom of worship and assembly, and other fundamental rights may not be submitted to vote.”---

I concur, but this is the religious right we&#039;re talking about here. These brainwashed zombies, while boldly claiming to believe in and uphold &quot;God&#039;s Law,&quot; completely write off the existence of THE TEN COMMANDMENTS-(widely rumored to represent God&#039;s TRUE word)-choosing, instead, to embrace a book-(the bible)-with &quot;laws&quot; written by men thousands of years dead in their graves. Funny how man can somehow cook up all these alleged, unfounded sins concerning homosexuality...and yet we have the TEN COMMANDMENTS, mandates that these very same people have fought and scratched to ban from public display at courthouses and libraries! I&#039;ve meticulously studied all ten of these commandments, and NONE of them mention ANYTHING about gay people. These self-righteous heathens go out of their way to impose their steadfast religious bigotry upon this entire society while, at the same time, daring to imply that it is the gay community who is on the attack against &quot;moral America!&quot;

Hypocrisy at its most pathetic!

I can only hope common sense prevails in Iowa. Massachusetts, Connecticutt, and Canada are still thriving as successfully as they ever have. Fire and brimstone has not rained down from the heavens, and life still goes on pleasantly for everybody. Sane, rational-thinking people already realize this. But, as I&#039;ve already alluded, these religious degenerates, who insist placing an unsightly black eye on their chosen faiths, are clearly neither sane nor rational.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GayVotesCount wrote: </p>
<p>&#8212;When will America wake up and remember the basic concepts that this country was founded on? As Justice Robert H. Jackson wrote, “the very purpose of the Bill of Rights was to withdraw certain subjects from the vicissitudes of political controversy, to place them beyond the reach of majorities … One’s right to life, liberty, and property, to free speech, a free press, freedom of worship and assembly, and other fundamental rights may not be submitted to vote.”&#8212;</p>
<p>I concur, but this is the religious right we&#8217;re talking about here. These brainwashed zombies, while boldly claiming to believe in and uphold &#8220;God&#8217;s Law,&#8221; completely write off the existence of THE TEN COMMANDMENTS-(widely rumored to represent God&#8217;s TRUE word)-choosing, instead, to embrace a book-(the bible)-with &#8220;laws&#8221; written by men thousands of years dead in their graves. Funny how man can somehow cook up all these alleged, unfounded sins concerning homosexuality&#8230;and yet we have the TEN COMMANDMENTS, mandates that these very same people have fought and scratched to ban from public display at courthouses and libraries! I&#8217;ve meticulously studied all ten of these commandments, and NONE of them mention ANYTHING about gay people. These self-righteous heathens go out of their way to impose their steadfast religious bigotry upon this entire society while, at the same time, daring to imply that it is the gay community who is on the attack against &#8220;moral America!&#8221;</p>
<p>Hypocrisy at its most pathetic!</p>
<p>I can only hope common sense prevails in Iowa. Massachusetts, Connecticutt, and Canada are still thriving as successfully as they ever have. Fire and brimstone has not rained down from the heavens, and life still goes on pleasantly for everybody. Sane, rational-thinking people already realize this. But, as I&#8217;ve already alluded, these religious degenerates, who insist placing an unsightly black eye on their chosen faiths, are clearly neither sane nor rational.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 04:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GayVotesCount wrote: 

---When will America wake up and remember the basic concepts that this country was founded on? As Justice Robert H. Jackson wrote, “the very purpose of the Bill of Rights was to withdraw certain subjects from the vicissitudes of political controversy, to place them beyond the reach of majorities … One’s right to life, liberty, and property, to free speech, a free press, freedom of worship and assembly, and other fundamental rights may not be submitted to vote.”---

I concur, but this is the religious right we&#039;re talking about here. These brainwashed zombies, while boldly claiming to believe in and uphold &quot;God&#039;s Law,&quot; completely write off the existence of THE TEN COMMANDMENTS-(widely rumored to represent God&#039;s TRUE word)-choosing, instead, to embrace a book-(the bible)-with &quot;laws&quot; written by men thousands of years dead in their graves. Funny how man can somehow cook up all these alleged, unfounded sins concerning homosexuality...and yet we have the TEN COMMANDMENTS, mandates that these very same people have fought and scratched to ban from public display at courthouses and libraries! I&#039;ve meticulously studied all ten of these commandments, and NONE of them mention ANYTHING about gay people. These self-righteous heathens go out of their way to impose their steadfast religious bigotry upon this entire society while, at the same time, daring to imply that it is the gay community who is on the attack!

Hypocrisy at its most pathetic!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GayVotesCount wrote: </p>
<p>&#8212;When will America wake up and remember the basic concepts that this country was founded on? As Justice Robert H. Jackson wrote, “the very purpose of the Bill of Rights was to withdraw certain subjects from the vicissitudes of political controversy, to place them beyond the reach of majorities … One’s right to life, liberty, and property, to free speech, a free press, freedom of worship and assembly, and other fundamental rights may not be submitted to vote.”&#8212;</p>
<p>I concur, but this is the religious right we&#8217;re talking about here. These brainwashed zombies, while boldly claiming to believe in and uphold &#8220;God&#8217;s Law,&#8221; completely write off the existence of THE TEN COMMANDMENTS-(widely rumored to represent God&#8217;s TRUE word)-choosing, instead, to embrace a book-(the bible)-with &#8220;laws&#8221; written by men thousands of years dead in their graves. Funny how man can somehow cook up all these alleged, unfounded sins concerning homosexuality&#8230;and yet we have the TEN COMMANDMENTS, mandates that these very same people have fought and scratched to ban from public display at courthouses and libraries! I&#8217;ve meticulously studied all ten of these commandments, and NONE of them mention ANYTHING about gay people. These self-righteous heathens go out of their way to impose their steadfast religious bigotry upon this entire society while, at the same time, daring to imply that it is the gay community who is on the attack!</p>
<p>Hypocrisy at its most pathetic!</p>
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		<title>By: LOrion</title>
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		<dc:creator>LOrion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 04:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Morgan, Faith is indeed a completely personal matter.  However, many groups of people here in the US follow leaders who tell them how to think and how to live and who to hate..and ask for them to give $$ to support the leaders hate.
Those are CULTS no matter what they call themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Morgan, Faith is indeed a completely personal matter.  However, many groups of people here in the US follow leaders who tell them how to think and how to live and who to hate..and ask for them to give $$ to support the leaders hate.<br />
Those are CULTS no matter what they call themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Morgan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 03:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duane,
Ij my state, Equality Maryland is calling for the term marriage to be changed to civil marriages.

And since I am a gay Rpiscopalian, I do not refer to the practice of faith as a cult. To me faith is a personal and everyday matter, not a cult.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duane,<br />
Ij my state, Equality Maryland is calling for the term marriage to be changed to civil marriages.</p>
<p>And since I am a gay Rpiscopalian, I do not refer to the practice of faith as a cult. To me faith is a personal and everyday matter, not a cult.</p>
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		<title>By: Morgan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 03:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quasi, 
We already knew that about the Dem sell out in New York State from a previous 365gay.com article about that subject
That was no longer news to us.

t&#039;s up to Empire State gay rights group to hold the legislators&#039; feet to the fire and to back up Daniel O&#039;Donnell who is insisting that the Dems keep their gay marriage promises and to act on those promises saying that people gave to these Dem campaign on hearing the gay marriage promises and that people have a right to see those promises kept.

And the more states that border on New York with gay marriage laws, already MA and CT, to be likely followed by NJ and with a gay marriage bill being likely submitted in neighboring Vermont (VT). If VT gets gay marriage, and with Canada&#039;s border on NY&#039;s northern edge, all that will left without gay marriage nearby will be PA, (Pennsylvania).
NY now recognize gay marriages from outside of NY State and I feel it is inevitable that one day NY State will have gay marriage just like its New England neighbors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quasi,<br />
We already knew that about the Dem sell out in New York State from a previous 365gay.com article about that subject<br />
That was no longer news to us.</p>
<p>t&#8217;s up to Empire State gay rights group to hold the legislators&#8217; feet to the fire and to back up Daniel O&#8217;Donnell who is insisting that the Dems keep their gay marriage promises and to act on those promises saying that people gave to these Dem campaign on hearing the gay marriage promises and that people have a right to see those promises kept.</p>
<p>And the more states that border on New York with gay marriage laws, already MA and CT, to be likely followed by NJ and with a gay marriage bill being likely submitted in neighboring Vermont (VT). If VT gets gay marriage, and with Canada&#8217;s border on NY&#8217;s northern edge, all that will left without gay marriage nearby will be PA, (Pennsylvania).<br />
NY now recognize gay marriages from outside of NY State and I feel it is inevitable that one day NY State will have gay marriage just like its New England neighbors.</p>
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		<title>By: Quasi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quasi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 01:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NY should become the first state to legislate marriage equality but the Dems are selling us out.  See:

http://quasisuspectclass.wordpress.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NY should become the first state to legislate marriage equality but the Dems are selling us out.  See:</p>
<p><a href="http://quasisuspectclass.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">http://quasisuspectclass.wordpress.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Morgan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 01:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will,
New York does however recognize gay marriages from outside New York. Just a matter of time.
Gay- marriage states Massachusetts and Connecticut border on New York State to the east and  gay-marriage country Canada borders on New York State to the north and New Jersey bordering to the south of NY is very likely to turn civil unions into gay marriage as NJ civil unions are not working. NJ couples have to explain their civil unions again and again to employers and to insurance companies and to doctors, so civil unions are not working in NJ and the NJ government is hearing all this and gay marriage will likely to arrive in KJ within months. 
It is prodicted that the rest of New England will have gay marriage by 2012, and chances are so will New Jersey and New York before then with NJ first OKing it and then NY will follow soon after.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will,<br />
New York does however recognize gay marriages from outside New York. Just a matter of time.<br />
Gay- marriage states Massachusetts and Connecticut border on New York State to the east and  gay-marriage country Canada borders on New York State to the north and New Jersey bordering to the south of NY is very likely to turn civil unions into gay marriage as NJ civil unions are not working. NJ couples have to explain their civil unions again and again to employers and to insurance companies and to doctors, so civil unions are not working in NJ and the NJ government is hearing all this and gay marriage will likely to arrive in KJ within months.<br />
It is prodicted that the rest of New England will have gay marriage by 2012, and chances are so will New Jersey and New York before then with NJ first OKing it and then NY will follow soon after.</p>
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